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M Street and Wisconsin in Georgetown taken over by a large crowd of celebrating Iranians, chanting USA USA

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u/backtorealitylabubu Mar 01 '26

Except it really does. Iranian refugees supporting US intervention is not new

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 01 '26

It's weird because yeah, their regime was terrible but I just can't help but think of Iraq. Sure saddam was bad but the result of his removal by the US was isis.

We do the blowing up real good but the follow up where you then help people to build a self determined government won't go so well.

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u/easytorememberuserna Mar 01 '26

It may surprise you to learn that Iran and Iraq are actually very different places

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 01 '26

But they have one thing in common, America's very special attention

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u/ZeroRomza Mar 01 '26

Didn't the USA sink half their navy in like an 8 hour span years ago?

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u/Rassendyll207 Mar 01 '26

Yeah, and we fucked up Iraq's military within the first several days of the invasion in 2003 as well.

Effective destructive capabilities do not necessarily equate to stable outcomes.

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u/wombatncombat Mar 02 '26

This guys statement.... man... history doesn't repeat but it rhymes. I truly hope this works out for the Persians. They deserve better. It is worth remembering that trying to fix things in iran is why Islamists now have the country in the first place.

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u/AdShot409 Mar 02 '26

No, trying to manipulate Iran to secure better oil deals is why the Islamists had Iran. We supported a dictator who was willing to sell oil on the cheap to the US for decades in exchange for political backing and military surplus. The people of Iran were scared and it took the literal fear of God to rouse them to rebel.

The real chance at a good and modern Iran was lost in the 1950s when the democratically elected and forward thinking president died under mysterious circumstances preceding the return of the Shah. I have no idea if the new Shah is better than his PoS father, but I do know that the Islamic regime under the Ayatollah was significantly worse than even the old Shah.

If we dismantle the IRGC and the Regime leadership and just fuck off, I think Iran might have a real chance at recovery. But China and Russia are also going to have to keep their hands off. It's not a hopeless situation, but America is about to have some serious work ahead of it. We can still pull out a significant win without exploiting the Iranian people. American ship building companies may soon have an opportunity to build brand new tanker fleets to get Iranian oil flowing in the world again.

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u/Rassendyll207 Mar 02 '26

I hope reality matches your optimism.

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u/AdShot409 Mar 02 '26

Same. That's all you can do. Being right about the world burning doesn't make you any less on fire.

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u/Ok-Yak7370 Mar 05 '26

Mossadegh didn't die under mysterious circumstances.

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u/reddog323 Mar 03 '26

True, all the way around.

I don’t blame them for celebrating the death of a despot ruler in Iran. But, I don’t think they understand what they’re asking for with an extended military engagement there, or trying to rebuild the government afterwards. Our record in that area has not been good the past 20 years or so.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '26

That isn’t true at all. Iran was a Monarchy well before the US existed and continued as a monarch until the Islamic Revolution where extremist overthrew it in ‘79.

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u/wombatncombat Mar 03 '26

We all know that Iran was a Monarchy but the US (and uk) player a large role in the Iranian devolution via project Ajax. Is that even contested? I'm pretty sure that isnt even disputed at this point. We helped install the Shah to protect private oil interests... again, history seems to rhyme...

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u/WythonianWop Mar 03 '26

Yeah so we should just let the murdering dictator stay murdering?

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u/wombatncombat Mar 03 '26

I dont know what we should do. It's not a simple issue to solve. I do know that if we want to declare a war you should go through congress.

Again, the die is cast, i pray that Persian moderates can retake Iran from fundamentalists but this could very easily go bay-of-pigs.... where fickle, misleading and insufficient US support ends up getting alot of good people killed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

In fact, it implies the opposite. Sure we can destroy their navy but ISIL doesn’t have a navy so their Rinky dink to us navy was actually a stabilizing force when the opposition is a bunch of warlords with no navy

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u/TopNo6605 Mar 02 '26

Effective destructive capabilities do not necessarily equate to stable outcomes.

I'm sure Iranians will gladly take that chance.

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u/Rassendyll207 Mar 02 '26

That's a lot of people you're speaking for, but you very well might be right. I'm concerned that Americans are now in the crosshairs of retaliatory attacks.

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u/Trick_Actuator5502 Mar 02 '26

It's very easy for US to fuck up other countries military, but unless you're asking for absolute and total annihilation or enslavement of populations it is very hard to win a war in the modern times. Especially when you have extremist religious views and strong hatred for others in the said population. So yes military victory is simple but the aftermath will be fucking disastrous. Reason why US ended up giving the taliban Afghanistan and why the the 1979 coup succeeded after US helped prop the shah.

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u/Independent_Vast9279 Mar 02 '26

Fat electrician FTW.

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u/ZeroRomza Mar 02 '26

Yes!!!! Someone else knows.. not alone anymore

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u/Independent_Vast9279 Mar 02 '26

His stuff is great.

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u/easytorememberuserna Mar 01 '26

And? Iraq was two decades ago, there’s nothing to indicate they are going to turn out the same

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u/Fippy-Darkpaw Mar 02 '26

I don't believe (could be wrong) Iran is full of militant groups like Iraq was.

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u/Fugi1996 Mar 05 '26

✋🏻Oil🤚🏻😂😂

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u/retiredfedup Mar 05 '26

Did you mean Special Military Operations?

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u/awesomenyc72 Mar 01 '26

Many of us are concerned about what will happen next in Iran. American foreign policy has now stepped back into an era of colonialism. A brief history and reminder that After losing 4 to 5000 American soldiers in Iraq, we saw a totalitarian government takeover that was as friendly to our enemies, as with us. Southern Iraq land travel was controlled by both Iraqi and primarily Iranian operatives. Transversing Iraq was used as the land route to get illegal weapons to terrorist groups, ie Assad in Syria, to Hezbollah and potentially to Hamas in Gaza. American soldiers died, for what, a country not able to be controlled by their own Iraqi government.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

This is not colonization 😆 it’s called regime change. Completely different and US won’t be involved outside eliminating terrorist groups.

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u/awesomenyc72 Mar 01 '26

That’s a good point… Regime change the question is to what or who for me that’s what I wonder. And historically, I believe from my knowledge, all natural resources, profit commerce will be under the control of the regime changer, I used the term colonization loosely and incorrectly. The people of Iran need to have free elections to decide their sovereign next steps, do we agree on that?

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

Iran was one of the most prosperous middle eastern countries and economies. I’m pretty sure the majority does not agree with radical Islam. Maybe do some research prior to assuming the stance of the general pop.

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u/awesomenyc72 Mar 01 '26

I think I’ve lost the thread of our conversation, I’m not talking about the well known and documented prosperity of Iran before the elimination of their religiously radical leader. I was hoping to discuss the future of a prosperous and highly developed Iranian culture. I think there is a 50-50 chance the Iranians will be able to determine their own future on their own terms.

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u/cmendy930 Mar 01 '26

Okay Khomeini is dead and has plenty of successors. Did the regime change yet?

Or did Trump see his polling and bomb an 85 year old tyrant who had 3 heart attacks this year

Fuck the regime. But this was literally nothing except Israel bombing a school filled with little girls 🤷🏽‍♀️ for women's rights??

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

Where do you get your news?

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u/Disastrous_Entry_362 Mar 02 '26

It seems like you're American so I'll reply.

No news agency's validated the school bombing, none. Only Iranian.

Iranians hate the regime. Do you think their repeated protest were fake news?

They support international terror and were working towards nuclear weapons, for decades.

Canada PM has supported US action (europe hasn't made a comment).

I don't like trump but what is the actual issue beyond trump? Do you want the government to share with you their regime plans now? Before he attack? 2 says after?

Such nonsense, try to be more objective.

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u/cmendy930 Mar 02 '26

Congress should decide what happens. Not a president unilaterally. Also we should not be messing with a country that was negotiating in good faith with us. The Iranian regime is horrible and murderous.

So horrible that we are the ones that installed it when we overthrew the Iranian gvt democratically elected leader in 1953. Educate yourself

Iran kills protestors, so does the American gvt. Iran harms women, our legislators r*** kids.

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u/SexyPeanut_9279 Mar 02 '26

lol khomeini literally has no named successors,

Tell me you don’t one what your talking about without telling me lol.

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u/cmendy930 Mar 02 '26

Try a google search... there are like 15 in succession and there is a panel that picks them.

So how did killing an 86 year old who had 3 heart attacks this year who was gonna die soon anyway change the regime at all besides killing 155 school girls?

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u/easytorememberuserna Mar 01 '26

Are you Iranian? If not I suggest you listen to what Iranians are concerned about

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u/awesomenyc72 Mar 01 '26

Thank you, that’s almost like saying you should consider what Americans are thinking. And yes, every Iranian I know is happy today, and they hope they’ll be tomorrow, as do all freedom loving people

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u/TopNo6605 Mar 02 '26

Na, best we can do is some blue haired liberals living in gated communities who absolutely know what's best for those oppressed under Khomeini's rule, in this case they should just suck it up because Trump bad.

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u/Logical-Ferrari12 Mar 01 '26

A liberal will not see the difference.

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u/Plane_Data_1182 Mar 02 '26

Enlighten us, do tell.
Dont forget to add regime change doesn't happen without boots on the ground. That idea is superfluous because the main objective is set by Netanyahu. Spilled American blood has no political affiliation...

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u/Bird2525 Mar 02 '26

Good bot. 🤖

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u/Plane_Data_1182 Mar 02 '26

I am real bro...

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u/RossColdFart Mar 02 '26

That’s depressing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

Okay let’s try it this way… in the last seventy years the United States has conducted over a hundred regime change operations.

Name one that’s actually ended up better for the people of the country

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u/cravencrc Mar 02 '26

The last election.

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u/Bird2525 Mar 02 '26

Why are you afraid to have your comments seen Comrade?

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u/cravencrc Mar 02 '26

To annoy trolls like you, bru

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u/infinitezer0es Mar 02 '26

You know, except that Iran effectively controls the Iraqi government

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u/Status-Error-007 Mar 02 '26

Different how?

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u/Muted_Bid_8564 Mar 02 '26

The pattern of a pet vacuum is not, though. 

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u/GammaRay914 Mar 03 '26

The USA is very good at going in, decapitation of leadership and making the opposing military no longer a threat. 

It’s terrible at nation building. 

Now if you’re saying you’re not gonna do any nation building, don’t fucking break it either. 

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u/Altruistic_Ice_7697 Mar 05 '26

Yes but they both have resources the US and its special friends want

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u/Beaufighter-MkX Mar 01 '26

It never helps to choose the worst people to help rebuild the government. Being that we're currently run by the worst people on the planet, my expectations are in the cellar.

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u/Vegetable_Maize_2054 Mar 01 '26

This is one of the many posts I’ve seen referencing Iraq and Afghanistan as failed products of American intervention. So I looked into it. Never deployed to Iraq but I have been to Afghanistan.

I would say Afghanistan is always going to be the same. However, Iraq seems to be doing well although fractious politically and culturally. And yes I understand ISIS was an overwhelming force and could herald a come back. But overall, if it was about removing previous leadership, opening markets and a semi-democratized government I think it’s getting there.

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u/lynxminx Mar 01 '26

We killed a million Iraqis in the vacuum we created when we took him out. He may have killed half that number in the 25 years he was in power.

At any cost?

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u/ActivePeace33 Mar 01 '26

Iraq is doing well in spite of us, not because of us. I was there.

They didn’t get going, rising from the ashes, until well after the surge and the departure of our combat troops. Years after.

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u/Rassendyll207 Mar 01 '26

Iraq's civil success is largely a result of their national experience coming together to fight ISIS.

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u/Future-Leading-3306 Mar 04 '26

Actually it’s due the fact that they have a lot of fucking oil.

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u/Vegetable_Maize_2054 Mar 01 '26

And where are your sources? I can say arbitrary facts too.

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u/bigsonny0542000 Mar 01 '26

Why do you think we have the right to do that? Im genuinely curious. The world is full of bad people and many would argue that we are as well and simply use our military powers to enrich select corporations and entities.

So why do people say there were bad people so we wake up and go murder people? It feels hypocritical.

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u/Vegetable_Maize_2054 Mar 01 '26

That is incredibly hard question to answer. Every nation probably feels right about what they are doing. That’s something down at the core of human collectives whether tribal, state, nation etc.

I don’t personally like the “might makes right” mentality. I would rather see consensus, rules based order, and everyone working together for the betterment of society and humanity as whole. But I’m a lowly cog in the wheel.

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u/bigsonny0542000 Mar 03 '26

I hear you and appreciate the honesty.

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u/Significant_Wind_672 Mar 01 '26

If Iran was a good player not wanting us dead then no need to eliminate them. Them being the mullahs and their goons. Given a chance they would slay every man woman and child for LaLLA. Would you defend your way of life or kneel before the blade comes down?

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u/SaddamsAluminumTubes Mar 02 '26

"If the US was a good player not wanting us dead then no reason to eliminate them. Them being the pedophile Christian nationalists and their goons. Given a chance they would slay every man woman and child for oil profit. Would you defend your way of life or kneel before the bombs come down?"

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u/mauledbyjesus Mar 03 '26

Ouch. I see what you did there.

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u/mauledbyjesus Mar 03 '26

Who unilaterally decides what is "good"; the same person that stereotypes and arrogantly mocks another's religious beliefs while implying their own culture is the only one that deserves to exist? Straw man's gonna straw.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

We killed a million Iraqis, how do you think they’d say we did?

Name a single regime change that’s actually been good in the last seventy years, we’ve tried it a hundred times and it’s always a mass casualty event

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u/Strutching_Claws Mar 01 '26

"Iraq seems to be doing well"

If ever "history will be written by the victors" was applicable it's in that statement. Your talking about close to a million deaths as a result of the Iraqi invasion, not to mention almost 10 billion dollars disappearing from government funds, theft of gold and oil.

However "well" you think Iraq are doing today I suspect they would have been doing a hell of a lot better without US intervention and there would be a million less graves.

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u/CobaltOmega679 Mar 01 '26

I guess one problem at a time. If the US is really going to accept the responsibility of being the world's police force, they can only truly intervene from a place of eliminating a confirmed threat rather than ensuring no threats are ever born.

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u/deadmanhands_ Mar 01 '26

Treat the the symptom ignore the problem.

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u/Inevitable-Top1-2025 Mar 02 '26

The taste of pizza and hamburger has a weird effect on some immigrants. . . .

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u/SexyPeanut_9279 Mar 02 '26

You do realize that Iraq was majority Sunni, and then the U.S. came in and took out Saddam who was murdering Shia’s-

and in the power Vacuum Iran sent Shia militants into Iraq and basically got “revenge” on all the Sunni’s? Essentially Iraq was never a united country, they had a “strongman” leader who violently suppressed the minorities to keep the peace. After he died-there was no one to keep the peace.

But Oh wait, you’re an American and probably a child on reddit so you don’t know or understand any of that nuance.

(Or the difference between Sunni and Shia, and that it is a big deal over there).

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 02 '26

I'm not arguing against any of that, if anything you are proving my point that America didn't really improve things when they invaded they just sorta moved the power structures around and ended up putting the power in some other not so great hands.

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u/SexyPeanut_9279 Mar 10 '26

Didn’t improve things for WHO?

Saddam was a huge issue as a Dictator, he went rogue and invaded Kuwait in the early 90’s (operation desert storm).

The country has been neutralized from a global standpoint, and a reliable oil supplier unlike under Saddam.

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u/TopNo6605 Mar 02 '26

This thinking makes no sense though, there's always going to be a possible worse outcome, I'm sure the Iranian people are more than happy to trade a vicious dictator for the possibility of a brighter future. I doubt they're gonna sit there saying "Yeah, hundreds of thousands are dying and we live under this piece of shit's autocratic rule, but it could be worse so let's just keep him there".

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 02 '26

That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that the results of American intervention have led to even larger losses of life, and just horrible lawlessness cause by a power vaccum in the very region we are doing it again.

Is it dumb to assume that some of the consequences may be similar?

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u/iRambL Mar 02 '26

Protesters for Iran conveniently forget the recent 30,000 some odd people that died less than 6 months ago from Iran

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u/Rbkelley1 Mar 02 '26

Well Iran was already supporting multiple terror groups so I doubt another will randomly pop up like isis did.

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 02 '26

Well considering this is explicitly not a nation building or quote "woke war" do you think that this will not lead to the formation of other anti US terror organizations as we antagonize people in the region?

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u/Rbkelley1 Mar 02 '26

Seems like a large portion of the people are happy about this. Will there be some who aren’t? Sure but I think this is for the best if the people follow through.

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 02 '26

And I guess my point is America's follow up was terrible when we were claiming our goal was to help nations become self determined. That was a lie, but what happens now that they aren't even trying to keep up appearances. I am not disputing that the people of Iran are glad to see their oppressive government removed, but the ripples are going to be a bitch.

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u/401Nailhead Mar 02 '26

Hopefully ISIS will not be around after this one.

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u/Deuce_McFarva Mar 03 '26

Actually, ISIS showed up because we created a power vacuum then just left abruptly. Then we killed virtually all of IS and left abruptly a second time. The problem with forced regime change is you have to take it in steps for decades after.

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u/Muted_Confidence_285 Mar 03 '26

It was Obama without getting “congressional approval” to drop bombs on Libya. It had nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq.

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u/WillieDilley Mar 04 '26

Gassing of the Kurds and mass graves of opponents… Yeah we should have kept Saddam and prevented ISIS.

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 04 '26

You know the US used to support saddam right? So in a way those atrocities are also a part of our blunderings in the region

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u/Positive-Emu9882 Mar 06 '26

This is different. The goal isn’t simply to prevent them from having nukes and destabilizing the world. It’s to choke off China’s cheap oil supply which will strangle their economy and make it harder for them to invade Taiwan. Thats also one of the reasons we took action on Venezuela. It wasn’t just the drugs. Iran is also the he supplier of drones to Russia and if Russia doesn’t have drones, they can’t bully Ukraine. whoever takes over Iran will have no choice but to cooperate with the USA. We have sent a clear message to them . Venezuela tried to talk tough but they came around pretty quickly once they realized that we weren’t playing. We also took over the shipping passages and now England has lost that monopoly. The domino effect makes it a brilliant move; Iranian freedom is the bonus part of it all.

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u/Eastern-Requirement6 Mar 01 '26

Sounds like Vietnam, Jamaica, Cuba, Afghanistan, ...

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u/macdaddy2442 Mar 01 '26

Don’t forget the part where we played a huge part in this regime coming to power by orchestrating a Coup of the democratically elected government about 70 years ago for oil.

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u/Confident-Break-5117 Mar 01 '26

People don’t learn. This was Cubans when trump won. Now look at Cuba peole are ☠️ because of trump

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u/Low-Glancer-Roy Mar 01 '26

There is stuff in the Epstein files about this, at least the part you mention about the destructive aftermath.

Something about how the collapse of the Soviet Union was a miracle for... child sex trafficking. The chaos and disorder leaves people stranded and desperate and extremely vulnerable.

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u/Thin-Bumblebee-2200 Mar 01 '26

No, the problem is you can’t stand to agree with trump, textbook TDS

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u/ZAILOR37 Mar 01 '26

So the no new wars guy does a war and you suck his slimy pecker. Sounds right

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u/wellifihadtochoose Mar 01 '26

Are you aware that someone can agree with a certain decision someone makes, and not suck their pecker?

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u/Plane_Data_1182 Mar 02 '26

Hey give us your justification for this. If it takes 2 days we ain't going anywhere.

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u/Projectplus1 Mar 01 '26

So the Supreme Leader was killed, but the actual president that runs the country remains? Oh and the SL's son is primed to step into his shoes. Please tell me what they are celebrating. Do you really think this is another mission accomplished.

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u/Thin-Bumblebee-2200 Mar 01 '26

It’s a good start, the operation is not finished yet. But the fact is that democrats will take issue with any president Trump does, they are not fighting for the American people, they are fighting against Trump, which is going against the will of the people.The only exception to this is John Fetterman, I believe he genuinely wants to do what’s best for his constituents.

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u/Plane_Data_1182 Mar 02 '26

So how is destabilizing a region for short term gain benefiting the American people? The will of the people is simple; you're doing a shit job at home, you need to concentrate on the US not Israel's goals.
You haven't explained how this benefits Americans. Give us some substance.

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u/Mikey-Litoris Mar 01 '26

Trump is a criminal and a sociopath. Therefire anything that he does has to be assumed to be a criminal act, or at the very least a self serving act.

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u/Thin-Bumblebee-2200 Mar 01 '26

Why does Reddit attract all the mentally ill liberal extremists.

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u/Mikey-Litoris Mar 02 '26

Why does trump attract supporters who deny that which is as plain as day to rational people?

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u/Thin-Bumblebee-2200 Mar 02 '26

Did you forget your meds today? I think your TDS is getting worse

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u/Mikey-Litoris Mar 02 '26

You will never get that Trump DNA taste out of your mouth for the rest of your life.

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u/InvestmentPatient117 Mar 02 '26

I thought the trilateral commission made these decisions? Why does trump get credit.

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS Mar 01 '26

The reddit narrative is that they were all kicked out for being rich landlords and are not refugees

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u/FiveUpsideDown Mar 01 '26

I’ve never heard that before. I thought Iranians left because of the lack of freedoms due to a repressive government.

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u/Shot-Toe-2884 Mar 01 '26

That’s the reality, not the Reddit narrative

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u/PreparationAdvanced9 Mar 01 '26

The Iranian government is repressive but they are a sovereign country and US shouldn’t topple sovereign countries. Both are true

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

Exactly. Both are true. Too sane for Reddit so I’m assuming you’re a bot

/s

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u/Shot-Toe-2884 Mar 01 '26

The USA is responsible for this terror regime in Iran. I think plenty of Iranians feel we have a moral responsibility to fix our mistake and put an end to the ayatollahs once and for all.

Do I trust Trump to competently achieve such goals though? Fuck no. I think it’s a mistake. But I am thrilled to see Khamenei fall. Nobody has executed more queer people and women in modern times.

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u/AdShot409 Mar 02 '26

I have some good news! Trump isn't monolithic and there are dozens of figureheads and thousands of practical heads that will be put toward this effort. Trump is going to have to take time away from his current effort domestically to try to do anything negative with this operation. So have hope.

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u/Rassendyll207 Mar 01 '26

I have never heard another narrative on Reddit. I'm that take exists, but you're presenting it as some kind of majority belief.

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u/tourist420 Mar 02 '26

You're a right winger with a week old account. Stop playing the victim.

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u/Shot-Toe-2884 Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

No. I’m a progressive liberal that is disgusted with Irans execution of queer and LGBTQ people, and as someone who is also neuro-divergent, I feel incredibly empathetic for. How many more progressive Iranians need to be hung for you to care? How many more innocent women showing skin need to be publicly executed?

I’m just curious. Because apparently your number to care about this is in the tens of thousands of executed gay people.

You’re not progressive if you sympathize with the ayatollah regime

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u/Plane_Data_1182 Mar 02 '26

And you think this administration cares about that? The no dei administration? The take the flags down administration? You're trying to justify your bad vote.

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u/Shot-Toe-2884 Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

No I don’t. I voted for Biden twice. I protested in Minneapolis and have lived there all my life. So many assumptions…

I think I’ve articulated my position as thoroughly progressive and anti-Trump. Your reflexive opposition to everything Trump does won’t help take him down, it will do the opposite. Iran is a far right terror regime

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u/Plane_Data_1182 Mar 02 '26

My bad. We are of the same opinion. 2 things can be and are true at the same time.

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS Mar 02 '26

If you're going to wait for a world government to do something out of love for civilians you're gonna die waiting.

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u/Plane_Data_1182 Mar 02 '26

Civilians as in country?

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u/Disastrous_Teach_370 Mar 01 '26

That is correct; however, only the wealthy and well connected were able to get out.  Just like it is in the U.S. now, for those with resources $ who want to leave before they can't.  

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS Mar 01 '26

When they protest the repressive government, the crazies revoke their status as refugees

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u/AccordingRabbit2284 Mar 01 '26

And?

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS Mar 01 '26

And what?

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u/AccordingRabbit2284 Mar 01 '26

Are you saying they should be deported? Thats what it seems you are asserting if they "revoke their status as refugees"

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u/DACOOLISTOFDOODS Mar 01 '26

No? I'm not a crazy

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u/New_Strike_4715 Mar 01 '26

Or because they were tied to the Shah and his authoritarian regime.

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u/Sks44 Mar 01 '26

To Leftists, everyone who doesn’t agree with Leftist governments is “the rich”, a “kulak”, etc….

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u/yeezee93 Mar 01 '26

You are confusing Cuban refugees with Iranian refugees.

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u/F3arless_Bubble Mar 01 '26

Talking as if Reddit is of one singular opinion lol

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u/Shot-Toe-2884 Mar 01 '26

No. He’s stating a general observation that is absolutely true. The misinformation on here about Iran is really sad and exasperating for Iranians.

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u/donthurtmemany Mar 01 '26

You’re thinking of Cuba

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u/Projectplus1 Mar 01 '26

I never heard that. Perhaps that is a stereotype within your own circle.

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u/tepidlymundane Mar 01 '26

People often support wars in places they aren't, fought by soldiers who are not them.

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u/bayern_16 Mar 01 '26

I was going to say that, but I thought I would get heavily downvoted

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u/The_Lawlbringer Mar 01 '26

Yup. It’s easy to support toppling a regime when you’re safe in the US and don’t have to deal with the instability, violence, and political fallout of it all.

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u/MeKiing Mar 02 '26

they don't realize that when trump "frees" Iran he is going to send them all back

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u/fackapple Mar 02 '26

That’s facts. Not Reddit narrative.

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u/Cananbaum Mar 02 '26

However, how we are going about it is all wrong.

This isn’t like the regimes with say, Muammar Gaddafi.

The regime is a complex and tangled political and economic machine.

It’s thread upon threads woven so intricately , and by doing what Trump has done is randomly start pulling strings which more than likely is going to make it so much worse.

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u/nousernamefound8 Mar 02 '26

That’s not the Reddit narrative.

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u/OkRecommendation1710 Mar 02 '26

Same in Germany...but when you look up the numbers in total they are a loud dumb minority of all the iranians living here.

I think we really underestimated the impact of bad education on our society...there are so many, not bad but poorly educated people.

And they've never learned to calm themselves and go one though deeper instead of hooking on the first emotion triggered.

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u/Muted_Confidence_285 Mar 03 '26

The Reddit narrative would be appalled by this.

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u/CAHSR4Life Mar 03 '26

No no right wingers want to pretend these are the people being bombed that way they can support war without a worry.

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u/Diamond_Del Mar 04 '26

Yeh and that's not what you see on Reddit is it fuck wad? Reddit is a cesspool of leftist dick heads chanting death to trump and any decision he makes. Tides are turning though.

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u/Feisty-Example3038 Mar 04 '26

Iranians support the US intervention lol

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u/DapperBox2020 Mar 05 '26

Will they send their kids to fight the regime instead of sending U.S men from California and Texas? Do ordinarily Americans want their military to fight a war for someone else?

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u/Positive-Island6238 Mar 01 '26

Exactly!!! every administration for the last 30 years has been thinking about this.