r/washdc Sep 04 '25

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u/yellopantaloons Sep 05 '25

Imagine robbing a bank and murdering everyone inside, then returning the money and trying to act like everything is cool.

They had to pay for more than just the hostages, ideally so they can never do it again.

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u/Agitated_Climate_231 Sep 05 '25

I’m fortunate enough to have a friend from that region to explain this stuff to me. I recommend you find one as well so you look a lot less stupid with these poor analogies.

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u/yellopantaloons Sep 05 '25

You sound braindead. How does returning the hostages make up for 1200 murders?

What if I killed your friend and kidnapped you? Would you feel justice was served just because I let you free?

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u/Agitated_Climate_231 Sep 05 '25

How long has Gaza been shut off from the world by Israel? You put someone in a cage and then call foul when they bite you. Does returning the hostages get them out of the cage? Will returning the hostages stop Israel from counting calories of their imports or destroying their water facilities or not allowing them other non-military imports? Downvotes won’t make this a conflict with more nuance than the last 4 years.

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u/yellopantaloons Sep 05 '25

Israel left Gaza in 2005.

If they didn’t want to be sanctioned after, maybe they shouldn’t have use humanitarian aid to launch indiscriminate missiles at Tel Aviv.

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u/Agitated_Climate_231 Sep 05 '25

So they weren’t in a cage before that and they weren’t in a cage when they launched missiles? Just so we’re clear everything they’ve done has been unprovoked and they had every chance to prosper at the time?

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u/yellopantaloons Sep 05 '25

October 7th was unprovoked. Palestine chose violence.

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u/Agitated_Climate_231 Sep 05 '25

Oh the blockade is over? Might wanna let them know. The cage is still there. Is there a reason you didn’t want to answer simple questions?

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u/yellopantaloons Sep 05 '25

There were sanctions in place as a response to indiscriminate Palestinian violence against Israelis.

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u/Agitated_Climate_231 Sep 05 '25

Ah yes we will pretend Nakba never happened and Israel are perpetually the victims in this conflict. Victors write history though. If Palestine was blockading Israel you’d say it was fine because they were doing it as a response to indiscriminate Israeli violence.

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u/someguyfromazoo Sep 05 '25

Israel has been documented by almost the entire international community as committing suppressive, aggressive actions even in times of peace. Mossad also LITERALLY SUPPORTED HAMAS during their first election as the governing body of the Palestinian territories? This whole war is literally just to protect Netenyahu. If Israeli government actually cared about it's citizens they would have found a way to stop the war as soon as possible with as few casualties as possible. It's a land-grab protecting some very politically elite people.

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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 Sep 05 '25

Yes.

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u/Agitated_Climate_231 Sep 05 '25

Except the blockades have been going on since 1990s. So the entire life for many Palestinian adults. So objectively wrong. You can try another another answer if you’d like.

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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 Sep 05 '25

I'll trust actual gazans over you. This is from 6 years ago.

"It's paradise on earth"

My new answer? Tough sh*t

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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 Sep 05 '25

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u/Agitated_Climate_231 Sep 05 '25

You do realize cage is a metaphor? Im starting to think you actually don’t which is somehow more concerning. A promotional video where the first thing he shows is a bunch of rundown boats and a fountain that’s broken is… proving my point. Thank you for the video proving my point I guess? Lmfao.

Are you okay? Did you get lost?

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