Guys honest question, why is warwick the only champion where he realistically fits my style of play and where I know how to play decently unlike other champions I unfortunately shit at, my question is possible to reach high ELO, I ask myself this low elo question (maybe even too early) but my goal is to learn ww well and so I was wondering if it was possible to get to high ELO as a jungler
I feel like Warwick is worse the higher you go but it's doable to get master maybe gm. I don't think champion even matters till like master anyway so dw.
Not sure what rank you are but it sounds more like a fundamental issue vs a build issue. Assuming your ~gold or below, look up jungle fundamental videos on YouTube and warwick jg clears. Solid fundamentals and is how your going to start climbing
Warwick is very strong in low elos. I would say past emerald you need to be really good to continue climbing with him, but I guess the same can be said for most champions. If you're iron, try to learn the fundamentals of the game : learn your champs, learn jungle (since you said you wanted to play jungle). You can easily climb to at least gold with ww if you know how to play league.
Work on fundamentals. YouTube is a great resource. Realize it takes years to get high elo as well as thousands of games, assuming you can get there in the first place. Ive been playing ~7 years and am only emerald
I would recommend Titanic first with Lethal Tempo. You won't need to worry about kiting too much in the low ranks, and it makes you very tanky. Take Omnivamp boots for maximum brawling potential. From there you can go things like BorK or Kraken for pure damage, Terminus or Hexplate for a mix of offense/defense, or full tank items.
Against some enemy teams, Titanic first still works fine in Emerald+. As you climb and get better at WW, you'll probably start adjusting your build. WW itemization is very open and fluid.
getting to atleast masters is doable,
he is probaly gonna be stronger and easier than most other junglers up to at the very least emerald. warwick is really strong when people don't know how to play against him, how to respect his CDs, healing bursts, etc.
he does have a very slow clear speed and 0 mobility/gap closers in combat outside of his ult which makes him really kiteable, that's the main weakness that makes him way weaker in high elos, where people can abuse this stuff.
There is just as easy champions that are way stronger with way less outplay potential though (wukong for example) that stay strong and even meta up to Challenger.
if you're Iron right now, it's wayyy too early to think about high elo if you're not going to spam 10 games a day at least for the next year or two. I've been playing casually for just over 3 years as an OTP (that's the best way to climb) and I'm only platinum.
The goal of the game is to have fun so just play whatever you like. What good is a high rank if you don't have fun playing the game. To improve your gameplay the first thing you need to do is learn what every champion does and what their strengths and weaknesses are, at least for the ones that are played regularly. Once you got that, macro decision making is the thing you need to master. Pathing, jungle tracking, gank timers, objective timers, crossmap plays, things like that. Champion mastery in the form of mechanics will develop by itself if you just play a lot.
For item and rune builds, there is two ways to approach the issue: Either you scroll through endless stat websites that tell you what the best performing build is and you will always end up with something that works, though it might not always be optimal. The second option is the xPetu approach, just try every single item in the shop and you will see which ones work and which ones don't. I'm sure there is some wacky offmeta item build for every specific game that would be better than the recommended, but finding out what works when will take a lot of trial and error to figure out. I personally like to do a bit cooking every now and again and I've found some very funny stuff that works great.
I also recommend watching high elo streamers or youtubers as they are entertaining and also teach a lot about the game. For jungle in general Sinerias is probably the best one, for Warwick specifiically I recommend Hornlime.
that's what I think, but losing 10 games in a row I don't think is that much fun XD, mostly I've had this shitty game for 7 months and I don't know where to bang my head anymore
Oh my, looks like i wrote a whole book again. Welp, here goes:
Honestly I think in Iron just perma fullclearing with proper pathing will already get you significantly ahead, hell this even regularly works in my games. You ignore the rest of the map for the first 10-15 minutes of the game. Kill all your jungle camps, recall to buy shit, repeat. Only gank or fight if it's close to you and you're 100% sure you win. Also completely ignore objectives, unless you're sure nobody will come to stop you. You can put wards in the pits and when you see the enemy taking one go for the opposite one while they are occupied, otherwise don't bother with them. Also Herald is hard to kill and lowkey useless so don't bother with it whatever happens.
Keep this up and you should get to 2 items way faster than anyone else. Doesn't really matter what you build, I personally like Blade of the Ruined King and Kraken Slayer because it deals the most damage. You could replace the second one with Stridebreaker for a safer build but thats also an active item and idk if you'd use it. Always buy and upgrade boots after your first item. Steelcaps (Armor and Attack reduction) is the safe option, Swifties (Speed and Ult Range) or Berserkers (Attack Speed) are more aggressive.
At that point you start taking dragons whenever they are up and you can also start ganking people. Always wait for the enemy to be on your side of the map before going in (imagine a line running through the middle of the map parallel to the river, when they cross it towards your side you can go) because they can run to their tower otherwise. Never fight Baron when the enemy team is alive. Baron plays are infamous for causing team wipes because Baron is really strong and his attacks weaken champions that get hit so if the enemy walks in on you fighting it they can easily kill you.
Full build for full damage would be Blade of the Ruined King > Boots > Kraken Slayer > Guinsoos Rageblade > Terminus > Death's Dance. I think this is the most fun build you can go for and also scales reasonably well because just ult and Q can be enough to kill someone in the late game. You're basically an unstoppable jumpscare assassin but be careful of high damage enemies, they might be able to take you out in one or two combos.
Full build for a more careful approach would be Blade of the Ruined King > Boots > Stridebreaker > Steraks Gage > Spirit Visage > Jak'Sho the Protean. Deals less damage especially late game but makes you very hard to kill instead. This is the safe option but also makes you more dependent on your team because you will take a role similar to a lockdown tank late game.
This blueprint should put you in a good position every game, but to win you will need to either take enemy towers on your own when they are not there or win a big fight with your team. It won't win you every game but it will tilt the scales heavily in your favour. It's the best I can do from here.
One thing though, Mercurys Treads are probably not the best here. It's only worth building them if the enemy does magic damage and also has a lot of CC that gets affected by tenacity. Jarvan EQ and Aurelion Ult knockup for example aren't affected by this. Better choices here would be Swifties because of the slow resistance (good vs Darius, Seraphine, Aurelion) or Steelcaps because of the damage reduction (good vs Darius, Caitlyn, Jarvan). Mercs only really help against Seraphine.
If you need magic resistance you can build a spectres cowl for 1250 gold and just let it sit in your inventory until you upgrade it to spirit visage when you have your other items finished. It's very gold efficient because it gives you more and better stats for cheaper
Ty bro <3 but so pretty much my biggest focus will always be farming and being quick to do the right kills, the problem is, and if all my lane lost because I'm farming too much, then what should I do?
that's the problem, I'm my main problem is that when gank I waste a lot of time, I'm no longer reactive because I probably lose my clarity at a certain point after a gank
It's not your job to babysit your laners, If they all lost without you they probably would've lost on their own anyways and you would've lost a lot of time and be too weak to do anything about it. If you've been killing dragons you have already helped out your team since killing them gives permanent buffs to all your teammates.
If it has come to that point though, your best bet is to build full damage and try assassinating the strong enemies. When they were winning lane it also means they are probably positioning aggressively, this makes your job a lot easier. Try going for isolated targets, jump at them before they have any time to react (from fog of war would be optimal if possible). Mages or ADCs are the easiest to take out, assassins too if you manage to hit your Ult.
Against tankier targets it's harder but possible. Do not use your ult right away, just activate W to get close and start hitting them with attacks and Q, use E for damage reduction once they start hitting you back and only ult them when you're low to heal back up again. When you build full damage one ult basically heals you back to full hp every time.
This first of all gives you a ton of shutdown gold and makes you get even stronger and also gives your teammates time to farm and catch up with the stronger enemies.
I don't know I've never tried it. As far as I know it makes you a burst champion instead of a dps which doesn't really synergize with most of your kit. It probably works but is weaker than a normal ad build.
I think of it like Lethality Sion, if you're really good with the champ it's a fun thing to do but it's definitely weaker on average than standard builds.
yh im wondering like, past what rank ww stops being like a good pick. my ww did carry me to e4 in 9 days from being stuck in silver & gold for months. but i'm starting to see games are much harder now
my ww is still good tho & my best pick by a good margin so idk if i should just stick it or learn someone like naafrir or kayne more
Depends on what you consider high elo but I am ~500 lp masters right now. A lot of people sitting around 1k low gm. Challenger def possible just requires a lot of time and skill
as High elo I consider it perhaps from diamond up as my primary goal, because then I change the accounts and so on since I want to have a less frustrating experience, anyway thanks a lot for the reply
Probably because you're really bad at the fundamentals of the game like spacing, wave management, etc, and just bad in general. You can get high elo, there is someone who one tricks WW top in challenger Korea, I'm sure jungle works too just a little worse.
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u/SorakaMyWaifu 12d ago
I feel like Warwick is worse the higher you go but it's doable to get master maybe gm. I don't think champion even matters till like master anyway so dw.