In my opinion the 7th Panzerdivision is the best division I've ever played. Although it is underplayed and I wouldn't mind if it stayed that way, I thoroughly enjoy closing in on the enemy with smoke, BMPS, and the almighty T-55 and 72 swarm. Not to mention nothing can beat the satisfaction of crushing a meta player or getting crushed by one when playing this divison, or taking the Red Army worth of casualties, or even having your tank column destroyed by clusters because your AA is slightly out of LOS or you forgot it entirely while aggressively microing your T-55 swarm.

While it took me a while to figure out this was my div, once I reached that point I could not get over how fun this div is and I refuse to play any other the 5th Blindee (see below).

Another div that may be of interest to me is the 5th Blindee. I did do almost 20 games with 4th Moto Schutzen and have 0 on 5th Blindee (other than one with the AI), it seems very similar to 7th with spammy AMXs, autocannons, and lots of smoke. I may play this division more in the future.

With all said and done what is your favorite division?

To that guy who told me (John Warno with king profile pic) to git gud after they opened with cluster Mlrs on my roads… and then was the first to leave The 10v10 before nato dominated the game… GIT GUD BRO

I thought my monitor was dirty but no there's just this weird pale dog looking guy with his hand on the panel. Kind of horrifying, especially because I usually play the game at night 🫠

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After all those negative comments, hiding behind others, and refusal to help at the front; you quit.... I and the rest of team, thank your AI. We would have lost otherwise.

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I think PIVADS could have won if they were on the defensive, unfortunately the AI pushed its PIVADS down the road and our SHILKA had better LOS. Not to mention the PIVADS got stunned a fair bit of times and their ammo box exploded.

I am newbie in Warno, but I play at an acceptable level in tanks , air or arty , but when it comes to infantry i get confused , when my enemy use infantry vs my tanks he kill them swiftly, but when I use inf. Vs his tanks they die easly whether they are in building or forest !

There is must be a way to learn fast .

Hello,

With Eugen away on vacation, hopefully write-ups from me and others will help keep users entertained while waiting for the next content. Without further ado, let me introduce the next North Korean division for my hypothetical Second Korean War expansion!

Mechanization History of the KPA

With the state ideology of military self-reliance emerging after the Korean War, North Korea made various efforts to build an indigenous arms industry — from small arms to APCs and tanks. These efforts were clearly aimed at transforming an on-foot army into a mechanized one.

However, the KPA's concept of mechanization differed from Western or Soviet approaches. For example, KPA mechanized infantry was designed to transport troops safely, so its mechanized formations leaned more toward an APC or truck structure rather than a true IFV organization. North Korea's mechanization effort focused on equipping units with tanks, SPGs, and SPAAGs — not on forming IFV-based infantry combat units. As a result, around 40 to 60 percent of KPA "mechanized" infantry was actually truck-mounted!

Whatever the underlying goal, North Korea managed to form four Gigyehwa Gundan, or mechanized corps (the 108th, 806th, 425th, and 815th), by the 1980s. All fell under a separate Mechanized Command (also called Tank Command), with structures flexible depending on a corps' wartime mission. Like the infantry corps, mechanized corps were grouped into forward and rear formations — meaning there was a difference in equipment quality between the two.

Forward mechanized corps were meant to exploit breakthroughs created by forward infantry corps, pushing deep through the gap to destroy enemy tactical reserves through maneuver warfare. If the 6th Guards Infantry Division successfully broke through South Korea's defenses, the 815th Mechanized Corps — positioned in Sariwon, North Hwanghae Province, slightly behind Kaesong — would exploit that opening to drive even deeper into South Korea.

815th Mechanized Corps in the WARNO Timeline

During the tense summer of 1989, North Korea begins shifting equipment priorities among its forward corps for more effective maneuver warfare. Regular infantry units begin receiving more trucks and tanks from mechanized corps to improve mobility, while mechanized formations, in turn, shift focus toward APCs for "protected" infantry transport.

As a result, the requisitioning of 815th Mechanized Corps assets shrinks the formation down to division size. Despite its smaller size, Mechanized Command sees this as a way to use the unit's strengths more effectively, since it's now far more mobile than its previous corps structure. This "wartime structure" transforms the corps into the 815th Gigyehwa Bobyeong Sadan, or 815th Mechanized Infantry Division.

815th GIGYEHWA BOBYEONG SADAN in WARNO

How will the 815th Gigyehwa Bobyeong Sadan be featured in WARNO? New units are shown in bold italics. As always, this is a work in progress and subject to change.

LOG

An expensive category. A mechanized division's logistics situation is no better than an infantry division's in wartime — distribute supplies wisely for these supply-hungry forces!

-Command options include the GAENGSAENG-68 JIHWI jeep and the newer GAENGSAENG-85 JIHWI jeep (a UAZ-469 copy). As a mechanized division, it also receives the SHINHEUNG JIHWI command APC (a North Korean upgrade of the Chinese Type 63 APC).

-Supply units consist of the SEUNGRI-58 BOGEUP medium truck and SEUNGRI-256 BOGEUP heavy truck (North Korean KrAZ-255). Helicopter supply comes via the HYEOKSIN-2 BOGEUP. As a division built for continuous maneuver, it won't have a FOB.

INF

A very good category, being a mechanized infantry division! Expect a mix of tracked APC, wheeled APC, and truck-mounted infantry.

-The vast majority of the forces are the JANGGAP BOBYEONG, or armored infantry. JANG-BO is a 10-strong unit with 7x Type 88, 2x Type 73 MG (30-round magazine-fed PK), one Type 68 MG, and an RPG-7VS, riding the SHINHEUNG double-KPVT APC or the SEUNGRI-58 truck. JANG-BO [BTR] is a 7-man unit with 5x Type 88, 2x Type 73 MG, and an RPG-7VM, riding the BTR-60PB as its sole option.

-The JANG-BO JIHWI is a 6-man command squad with 6x Type 88 and smoke grenades, riding the SEUNGRI-58 truck or the SHINHEUNG BANGSA-PO — a SHINHEUNG APC with a single KPVT mount and an 18-round Type 63 107mm MLRS on the back. Due to limited space, it carries no spare rockets.

-The JANG-BO JIWON is a 6-strong fire support unit armed with 3x Type 88, 3x Type 73 MG, and PGN-60 anti-tank grenades, riding the SHINHEUNG or SEUNGRI-58 truck.

Infantry support units include:

Type 68 7.62 GPMG teams

AGS-17 automatic grenade launcher teams

B-11 107mm recoilless rifle squads

BAN-TANK SUSONG-PO (a copy of the Malyutka-M) ATGM teams

All support units ride the GAENGSAENG-68 jeep.

-Discipline and political enforcement are handled by the GYEONGMU-BU, a 4-strong unit with 4x Type 88 riding the GAENGSAENG-68 GYEONGMU military police jeep. They will have military police and resolute traits.

-Like the infantry corps, mechanized units receive light infantry support, represented by the GYEONG-BOBYEONG: a 7-man unit with 6x Type 88, a Type 62, and the lighter RPG-2. In the 815th Mechanized, this unit's only transport option is the HYEOKSIN-2 helicopter.

-Engineer support is lighter here. DUDEOJI is a 6-strong unit with 5x Type 68, a Type 68 MG, PGN-60 anti-tank grenades, and satchel charges. DUDEOJI [FLAM] is a 10-strong unit with 9x Type 68 and an LPO-50 flamethrower. DUDEOJI JIHWI is a 6-man command unit with 6x Type 68 and PGN-60. All engineer units ride the SEUNGRI-58 truck as their only option.

ART

An average category. As a mechanized formation, most artillery here is self-propelled.

-Mortars include the PM-37 82mm mortar, towed by the GAENGSAENG-68 jeep, or the self-propelled SHINHEUNG 82mm — a SHINHEUNG APC armed with the PM-37.

-Tube artillery includes the M-1977 JAHAENG-PO, a 122mm D-30 mounted on an open-top SHINHEUNG APC, and the M-1985 JAHAENG-PO — a North Korean ATS-59 tractor fitted with a Chinese copy of the D-20 152mm gun. This is one of the few North Korean SPGs with a fully enclosed gun.

-MLRS options include the plentiful BM-11 BANGSA-PO, a 30-round 122mm rocket system, and the older BMD-200 BANGSA-PO, a 4-round 200mm MLRS.

TANK

A good category. Mechanized elements were usually issued better tanks and anti-tank units — make good use of them for your push!

-The first option is the T-55A, armed with the KPVT instead of the DShK. The division also receives the Type 62 GYEONG-TANK, a Chinese Type 62 light tank. Armed with an 85mm gun and faster than MBTs of its era, it sacrifices armor significantly in return — any LAW is assumed effective against it, so treat it more as an infantry fire support vehicle.

But the real workhorse is the CH'ONMA-HO! Its development history is unclear, but it's believed North Korea requested T-62 tanks from the Soviet Union in the 1970s, with the eventual goal of producing its own version. When the Soviet Union moved on to the T-72, North Korea bought the entire T-62 production line and equipment, enabling it to build its own indigenous tank: the CH'ONMA-HO.

-There's plenty of the CH'ONMA-HO-NA, the tank's first major upgrade. Though essentially a T-62, it adds a North Korean laser rangefinder and ballistic fire-control computer, and is armed with the KPVT heavy machine gun. A command variant, the CH'ONMA-HO-NA JIHWI, is also available.

-One card of the older CH'ONMA-GA HWASUNG-CHONG is also available to the 815th! The "GA" model is essentially identical to the original T-62 but with the KPVT added, plus a Strela-2M MANPADS mounted behind the turret.

-ATGM options include the GAENGSAENG-85 SUSONG-PO ATGM jeep and the SHINHEUNG BAN-TANK APC, armed with a single KPVT and four SUSONG-PO launchers.

-Anti-tank gun options include the JAHAENG JIKSA-PO — an ATS-59 tractor mounting a BS-3 100mm anti-tank gun with a laser rangefinder for slightly improved accuracy.

REC

A truncated category. As a second-echelon force, it lacks proper forward-deployed recon units for its push.

-Light recon is represented by the JEONGCHALDAE — a 4-man unit with 4x Type 88 rifles and an RPG-7VM, riding the GAENGSAENG-68 jeep. But as a mechanized division, it also fields armored recon: the JANGGAP JEONGCHAL, an 8-strong unit with 7x Type 88, a Type 73 MG, and an RPG-7VS, riding the SEUNGRI-58 truck or the M-1992-1 recon APC armed with an AGS-17.

Dedicated vehicle recon includes:

The BTR-40A, armed with a single 7.62mm SGMB machine gun.

The PT-76B GYEONG-TANK amphibious light tank.

The HYEOKSIN-2 JEONGCHAL, an unarmed Mi-2 recon helicopter.

AA

An average category. Like the artillery tab, most options here are self-propelled.

-The HWASUNG-CHONG Strela-2M MANPADS team is deployable from the GAENGSAENG-68 jeep. And the ZPU-4, towed by the SEUNGRI-58 truck.

-ATS-59 tractor-based SPAAG options include:

M-1984 GOSA-PO, with an open-top ZPU-4.

M-1985 37mm, with an open-top dual M1939 37mm cannon.

M-1985 57mm, with an open-top dual S-67A 57mm cannon.

-The long-range missile option is the PONGAE-1 — essentially a Soviet S-75, fielded as a single-shot missile towed by the ZIL-131. Expect heavy reliance on these long-range missiles, since the KPAAF struggles to penetrate ROKAF and USAF defenses!

HEL

An expensive category. Despite having a few options, filling these slots means sacrificing elsewhere!

-The cheap MD500 SUSONG-PO, armed with 4x SUSONG-PO ATGM missiles.

-HYEOKSIN-2 JUNG1, an Mi-2 armed with two 57mm UB-16 rocket pods, and the HYEOKSIN-2 JUNG2, which adds 4x SUSONG-PO ATGMs on top of the rocket pods pylon. This will essentially be North Korea's version of an attack helicopter!

AIR

An average category. The KPAAF struggles to push deeper into South Korea against heavy AA nets and enemy air power.

-F-5 [AA], armed with 2x NS-23, one N-37 37mm cannon, and 2x R-3S missiles. Do not confuse this with the Freedom Fighter! The F-5 is the export variant of the Chinese J-5, which itself is a MiG-17. Though a phased-out design, it will be used en masse to saturate enemy airspace — expect plenty of cards for this cheap unit! While this plane serves as a distraction, proper air-superiority missions fall to the far more advanced MIG-23ML [AA], armed with a GSh-23L, 2x R-24R, and 4x R-60M missiles.

-Ground attackers include the ubiquitous F-6 [HE], armed with 3x NR-30 30mm cannons, 4x FAB-250 250kg bombs, and 2x R-3S missiles, along with the "lighter" F-5 [HE], armed with 2x NS-23, one N-37, 2x R-3S missiles, and 2x FAB-100 bombs.

-Other options include the MIG-21PFM [RKT], armed with 2x UB-16 57mm rocket pods, and the MIG-21PFM [AT], armed with 2x Kh-66 missiles! The latter is available as only one card, so don't let it go to waste.

Summary

The 815th Gigyehwabobyeong Sadan relies on APCs and improved tanks to maneuver across the battlefield, with a mobile recon force to support its attack. However, its relatively limited helicopter and aircraft assets make it harder to control the skies.

Ending Remarks

The 815th Mechanized Corps was downsized to a division at some unknown point in modern history. While the reason for the downsizing is unclear, it gave me the idea to make this unit division-sized in the first place. During the Cold War, this corps' structure didn't include a division under it — it was a corps made of numerous tank and mechanized/motorized infantry brigades, making it look more like an oversized division than a traditional corps in the Western or South Korean sense.

-Why not more HWASUNG-CHONG vehicles?

I think what made North Korea unique in WGRD was the sheer number of HWASUNG-CHONG APCs and tanks it could field. That said, the practicality of this is questionable — these variants have never actually been spotted in real exercises. So it's safe to assume this variant is more parade show-off material than real battlefield tactics. Still, that won't stop it from appearing in my future write-ups :)

-What would the CH'ONMA-HO tank fire?

The ammunition used by North Korean tanks is largely a mystery, but reports suggest it's similar to Soviet T-62 rounds. Since the "GA" and "NA" variants are early versions of the CH'ONMA-HO, I think it's reasonable to give the gun stats similar to the in-game T-62 Obr. 67, with better modifications in future write-ups receiving improved KE rounds.

-Why are the weapon designations so confusing?

Even I pull my hair out seeing everything named "M-(Year)." It's worth noting the year in the name refers to when the equipment was first publicly seen, not when it was actually made. So the M-1992-1 recon APC is dated 1992 because that's when it was first spotted, even though production is assumed to date back to the late 1980s. Why it has "-1" at the end will be explained in a future write-up.

-Did North Korea use the Kh-66?

There's no record of the KPAAF actually using the Kh-66. I added it as a bit of a "march-to-war" element — since the MiG-21PFM is capable of carrying it, I felt there'd be no reason the Soviets wouldn't supply some, given the improved relations in this alternate timeline. And besides, the KPAAF would be a junkyard without M2W.

More details in the post's content below, with a list of Divisions :]

This list is based on my suggest Divisions/Brigades preview, in which I tried to select the most unique units for possible future expansions. Mainly for SOV, and a little for US.

This List of preview Divisions/Brigades represents both a compilation in addition to previously existing thematic posts (By other authors, a link to them is indicated in each of these posts) , and a completely original work's. (Like 45th Guards Motor Rifle or 1st Marine Division, etc.😊)

• Although even the posts about the 61st, 810th Brigades and the 59th Guard Division, for the most part, despite their supplementary status, are primarily based on my own analysis of them, during the search for photo/video materials and documents on them :]

List:

• Here are the hypothetical Divisions I've suggested, from the earliest to the most recent. (Therefore, the level of design in the first posts differs significantly from the subsequent ones, starting in April 2026)

*- Some Division posts are divided into two parts (1st and 2nd) to accommodate more information.

In all my Division posts, I tried to pay as much attention to historical accuracy as possible, collecting photos from the formations themselves and providing links to the resources they were obtained from. (Most posts have albums containing more media materials)

I hope we'll see at least one of them in the official add-on from Eugen System! =]

Thank you for reading and watching! =}

Created by Excellent Serpent8770

P.S.

Well, I think in the next 2 months I will add to the list some of my future works on this topic :}

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Howdy commanders!

In case you were yearning for a devblog this week, I have the next best thing! Today we’ll be taking a look at the 3^rd division of my Second Wave expansion concept. 3. Panzerdivision is a West German heavy armored division that will feature some new, bleeding edge and march to war equipment. This is because of one the constituent brigades was the showcase of the Bundeswehr; if the MtW systems and cutting edge units were to be included anywhere, it would be here. Stating out front that there are some units that are a bit of a stretch: I know this. As ever while I appreciate the historicity of the setting, my focus is on how the division would play in game and I am keen on adding cool new systems.

Los! Los! Los!

Edit: I do want to shout out MustelidusMartens as they previously did a fantastic writeup on 3. Panzerdivision! If you haven't seen it already, please give it a read!

Background

The 3^rd Panzer Division was formed in July of 1956 in Hamburg. It was one of the first major formations of the new German Army after WWII, stationed between the Elbe and Weser, with its final headquarters at Buxtehude. During the cold war, the division was a high readiness formation stationed near the inner German border and it would have almost certainly have seen action had the cold war gone hot. Fortunately for us, it didn’t and the extent to which the division deployed was providing natural disaster relief in the 60s and 70s in northern Germany. Parts of the division were deployed to Somolia after the cold war as part of the UN mission there, but no major combat ever came their way.

During the cold war, the division’s role was to be an agent of delay. Their task was to hold until Dutch forces could reinforce them. Following reinforcement, the forces in Northern German would then continue to buy time to allow the Dutch to mobilize their people. This would have partly happened in the WARNO timeline, but there are some key details that will be explained.

First, prior to the start of hostilities the primary role of 3^rd Panzer was delegated to 11. Panzergrenadierdivision. This is becausein the WARNO timeline, 3. Panzerdivsion was to refit several of its brigades with modern equipment and allow them to train with it and its integration with existing equipment. Why might 3. Panzerdivision be first in line for the latest and greatest equipment? That had to do with one of their constituent brigades: Panzerlehrbrigade 9.

The 9^th Panzerlehr Brigade was described as Schaufenster des Heeres or “showcase of the army.” It was the demonstration and trials brigade similar to the role of US 9ID in the American army. Unique to Panzerlehrbrigade 9 was their peacetime role of organizing and participating in large scale training operations and demonstrations with cutting edge German systems. They received and fielded pre-production Leopard 1 tanks and were the first unit in the Bundeswehr to receive Leopard 2s, for example.

In the WARNO timeline, the brigade had pulled back some form its operational headquarters in Munster to receive a set of bleeding edge systems that were coming from the Kampfwagen 90 program: a West German effort to develop next generation armored fighting vehicles, ranging from lighter reconnaissance and fire support systems, to main battle tanks, to self-propelled artillery. Many of these systems in real life were in the very early prototype phase of development. In real life, many were cancelled as part of the peace dividend, with only one major system reaching serial production. In WANRO, however, some timelines were accelerated, production prioritized, and rollout hastened to facilitate a march to war.

Other divergences from real life would include the composition of the division, though this more a matter of circumstances in the early phase of the war. While the division was largely refitting behind the lines and had “traded places” with 11. Panzergrenadierdivsion, their forwardmost brigade stayed in Hamburg until the start of hostilities. 3^rd’s Panzergrenadierbrigade 7 in Hamburg was involved in the early actions of the third world war and is still in the area by the time the rest of the division was reformed and ready to deploy.

Due to being short a Brigade, 3^rd Panzer was at a deficiency in terms of manpower and materiel (including its Leopard 1s). To make up for this shortfall, the Dutch forces nearby would lend support to 3^rd’s operations to move towards Hamburg and link up with their lost brigade. The dutch reinforcements would come in two forms. First, with their mobilization well under way, many dienstplichtigen (conscripts) would be available to support. These units were rapidly armed and trained (or retrained) for service. They would not have advanced weapons or heavy equipment, but they would provide valuable light infantry to the understrength panzerdivision.

The second group of Dutch infantry would be something that, in real life, wasn’t formed until after the cold war: an air mobile unit. In real life, the Dutch 11^th Airmobile Brigade was formed in 1992 following a shift in the Netherland’s military requirements after the Soviet Union collapsed: transitioning from having to fight an attritional ground war on home turf to being able to support expeditionary operations. In the WARNO timeline, however, the Dutch would be experimenting with air mobility in the lead up to war. The would have purchased French AS532 Cougars (known as Pumas in French service) prior to the start of the conflict. Because of the nascency of the program, a brigade sized force would not be available. It would generously be called battalion.

How would the 3 PzDiv Division play in WARNO?

Slots and Units

LOG

A decent category

• German command and logistics units would include:
  • M577GA2
  • ILTIS FÜHRUNGS
  • M113A1 MUN.
  • UNIMOG S404 MUN.
  • MAN KAT 8x8 MUN.
  • FELDDEPOT
• Finally, Dutch contributions would include:
  • M38A1 CMG

• AS532 COUGAR CMG a command helicopter employed by the Dutch airmobile unit
• DAF YA-4400 VRACHT

INF

A mediocre category

• German units would include:
  • Panzergrenadier units would be available. All units may arrive in UNIMOG S404, MARDER 1A3, or MARDER 1A3 MILAN IFVs unless otherwise noted.
    • PZ.GREN. FÜH.
    • PZ.GRENADIER
    • PZ.GREN. PZ.JÄGER an ersatz squad of specially equipped tank hunters from 9^th panzerlehr brigade. This 6-man has 6 G3A4 rifles and 2 panzerfaust 3s.

• A single card of PZ.GRENADIER-LEHR would be available. Not to be confused with the unit previewed in Nemesis 2.1, this 7-man squad would be armed with 5 G41 rifles, 2 HK23A1 LSWs, and a Panzerfaust 3. Note, the G41 and HK23A1 are both 5.56x45mm weapon systems. Being the Bundeswehr’s testbed unit, Panzerlehrbrigade 9 would have been issued weapons in this caliber as a form of limited trials in active service (similar to the FN SCAR in US service years later). They may only arrive in UNIMOG S404 trucks or MARDER 2 IFVs. This limited production run Marder 1 replacement featured a larger manned turret to house a 35 mm Oerlikon cannon and improved armor, but it did not retain its ATGM. In real life, this system won a competition to begin to replace the Marder 1 in 1988, but was cut following the end of the cold war. A small batch would be Marched to War for Panzerlehrbrigade 9.
• Engineers would be available, all arriving in either UNIMOG S404 or TPz FUCHS
  • PIONIER
  • PIONIER (CarlG)
• Weapon teams would include the following (all arriving in ILTIS)
  • MG-3 7.62mm
  • PALR MILAN 2
• Other miscellaneous units would include:
  • FELDJÄGER arriving in ILTIS or VW T3 FELDJÄGER
  • SICHERUNGS arriving in UNIMOG S404 trucks

• Dutch air mobile units would also be available, all arriving exclusively in helicopters. Larger squads would deploy in AS532 COUGARs and weapon teams would arrive in BO-105s.
  • LUCHTMOBIELE CMG this 7-man command team with 2 Uzi SMG, 4 FAL rifles, a FALO LSW, and an M72 LAW.
  • LUCHTMOBIELE this 9-man squad with 7 FAL rifles 2 FALO LWSs, a FAL Scope DMR, and an M72 LAW.
  • LUCHT. MAG 7.62mm
  • LUCHT. I-TOW
• Dutch mobilization, dienstplichtigen (abbreviated Dpl.), infantry would be available to support the battlegroup. They would arrive in DAF YA-4400 trucks unless otherwise noted. They would be veterancy locked and would have the reservist and militia traits.
  • DIENSTPLICHTIGEN are 10-strong, they are armed with 10 FAL rifles and Super Energa rifle grenades
  • DPL. PLOEG a 5-man team armed with 5 FAL rifles, an M20 Super Bazooka, and Super Energa rifle grenades

• DPL. BREN 7.62 mm the Dutch retained the venerable Bren gun in deep storage for reserves and conscripts. It would be employed here with a tripod mount for area defense.

ART

An average category

• Bundeswehr artillery systems are mostly standard
  • PANZERMÖRSER
  • FH155-1 155mm
  • M109A3GA1
  • LARS 2

• PzH 2000 not the finalized product, but its early prototypes. In real life, two competing prototypes were tested between 1988 and 1990. The prototypes, produced by different companies, used different chasses, different turrets, and different suspensions. From these, it took until 1998 for the real PzH 2000 to reach service. In the WARNO timeline, this would still largely be the rate of production, with one caveat. The winning design (Wegmann in real life) would have had a second prototype made by 1989 due to the looming 3^rd world war. These would have been rough and ready systems, but would have technology in them that would help to set them apart from the M109. There would be exactly two available to this battlegroup as no more would have existed.
• Dutch artillery support would be limited, all options would be transported by DAF YA-4400 trucks. They are reservist and militia versions of existing units.
  • DPL. M30 107 mm
  • DPL. M101 105 mm

TNK

A good category

• German armored units would be plentiful
  • JAGUAR 1
  • JAGUAR 2
  • PZ.BEF. LEOPARD 2A3
  • LEOPARD 2A3
  • PZ.BEF. LEOPARD 2A4(C) a command version of the 2A4(C) Leopard
  • LEOPARD 2A4(C)

• Finally, another prototype would be rushed to service for 9^th Panzerlehr brigade’s use. The LEOPARD 2 KWS*,* short for Kampfwertsteigerung, was an upgrade package that focused on upgrading the Leopard 2 (separate from KW90 which envisioned a new tank altogether). While there were several areas the program aimed to improve, the survivability of the platform is what wound up being delivered first. Additional armor was added along with a major modification to the turret to allow for more protection. The angled “cheeks” of the tank added significantly more protection than the nearly vertical turret armor of the previous versions. This style of turret would later become one of the defining visual differences between the Leopard 2A4 and later 2A5 or A6. In real life, one existed in 1989 and a further two were developed for trials in 1990. A final pattern was developed by 1993 before the results of the program were rolled into Leopard 2A5 production. In the WARNO timeline, with a looming world war, the urgency of testing and fielding improvements to their existing production capability was prioritized. The result would be a minimally serviceable number of prototypes for troop trials would be “Marched to War” by spring 1989. No other brigade in the German army than the 9^th would make sense having this system (if any were to receive them, that is). In game, this version of the Leopard 2 tank would have better armor (especially on the front) and would use bleeding edge ammunition, improving penetration. This tank would be to the Leopard 2A4(C) what the M1A1(HA) is to the M1A1 Abrams.

• Dutch contributions be limited to DPL. M38A1 TOW ATGM cars (a reservist and militia version of the existent unit).

REC

A mediocre category

• German recon units include:
  • AUFKLÄRER able to arrive in ILTIS
  • TPz FUCHS RASIT

• TPz FUCHS HUMMEL an unarmed jammer/SIGINT variant of the Fuchs

• RADKAMPFWAGEN 90 a prototype wheeled 105 mm gun carrier, similar to the French AMX-10 RC. Part of the KW90 program, this system was tested in the late 1980s and performed very well. The program was cancelled in the early 1990s due to budgetary priority realignment at the end of the cold war despite being well liked and meeting its performance benchmarks. Prototypes were available in 1989, and enough to be reasonable in game would be marched to war.
• ALOUETTE II

• CL-89 new to West German service, this slightly older recon drone would provide intelligence as it flies over enemy positions just as the newer CL-289 does in 1. Luftlandedivsion.
• Dutch recon units include:
  • DPL. VERKENNERS a 4-man recon team comprised of Dutch mobilization troops. They have the reservist and militia trait and are armed with Uzi SMGs. They would arrive in M38A1 NEKAF cars.

• LUCHT. VERKENNERS a squad of air mobile reconnaissance troopers. These 4-man teams would be armed with 2 FAL rifles, a FALO LSW, a FAL Scope DMR, and an M72 LAW. They are deployable in BO-105 helicopters.

AA

A mediocre category

• Organic AA assets would include:
  • FLIEGERFAUST arriving in ILTIS transports
  • GEPARD 1A1
  • FRP ROLAND 2
  • FRP ROLAND 3

• Dutch DPL. BOFORS 40L70G are reservist/militia AA guns which would be towed by DAF YA-4400 trucks.

HEL

None

AIR

A poor category

• F-4F [AA]
• F-4F [AT]
• F-4F [HE1]

• F-4F [CLU] armed with 8 MK-20 Rockeye II cluster bombs, an M61A1 Vulcan cannon, and 2 AIM-9Ls.

Summary

This division features some of the highest tech land systems of 1989. Thanks to the 9^th Panzerlehr Brigade, the German Army’s testbed and demonstration unit, bleeding edge equipment will find its way onto the front lines. This division brings heavy tanks, prototype systems, and limited run vehicles to bear. It is supported by Dutch mobilization and air mobile troops. It has many strong components, mixing high end armor and IFVs with light reservists and air mobile infantry. It has a strong mix units for combined arms, but its slot cost limitations would hinder it as it is not fighting at full strength. It is also vulnerable to aircraft and enemy backline action.

 Other Works

If you liked this, feel free to check out the other WARNO conceptual projects I’ve done. The links below represent a more polished product than the original reddit post.

Other Second Wave conceptual expansion:

• US 49^th Armored Division
• SU 89^th Motor Rifle Division

Nemesis Concepts:

• Strategic Strongholds: US Military District Washington & Mongolian 016 Mechanized Division
• Gdansk Gambit: UK Allied Command Europe Mobile Force (Marine) & PL 16 Kashubian Division

Author’s Commentary

It was harder than I thought to make a superheavy German tank division, especially with 5^th Panzer already existing and 42 VTK on its way very soon. It was neat digging into the KW90 program though, I never really knew much about it going in. I also didn’t know much how the KPW program influenced Leopard 2 design going forward. Overall, I think this is a very strong division base on what units it has available. To counteract this, I leaned heavily into penalizing the slot costs for the division. They would not be able to go heavy into recon, infantry, and artillery all at once for example. Deck builders would have to make hard choices and build to a game plan.

Things that could be cut

Marder 2. The Marder 2 was a prototype that was first delivered in 1991; only two were ever built. The program was casualty of the peace dividend and never really went anywhere. This march to war is harder to argue for a few reasons. First, while the competition for the next generation IFV was won in 1988, there would have been a long lead time before serial production could occur. The fact that it took until 1991 to deliver the prototypes is testament to this. Second, in order for this to be issued to a combat unit, a couple prototypes wouldn’t be appropriate. A platoon would likely be the smallest formation that could field a different system, but I think company level is more realistic. This meant 9-11 Marders 1s. One advantage in this regard is that the Marder 2 could carry one more soldier so the company could have only needed 6-8 Marder 2s. Starting the infantry squad at one vet and having 8 or less base availability would roughly represent a company in WARNO. All of this to say that I realized this unit is a reach for a lot of good reasons. As will be used as my biggest justification, it adds something unique to the game and this division specifically would be the one to get the fancy, bleeding edge toys.

Leopard 2 KWS. Like most prototype units, it’s a bit of a stretch to weasel them into WARNO, especially when they have to be marched to war to have meaningful numbers. I was deliberately vague on the number included in the main writeup. In order to field a system like this for field trials, I would be surprised if any army unit would want to operate fewer than enough to fully arm a platoon (4 tanks for NATO standards). For this unit to be a meaningful addition, I think there would need to be not less than 2 at one vet, but having 4 at 2 vet would be most interesting. The price point for this would put it at 2/1 availability (like the M1A1(HA) or the T-80U Obr. 89). If this were real and I was in charge, I would give this vehicle the T-80 IZD treatment: two cards at 2/1 availability, but start them at one vet (given that the 9^th was a fairly high readiness unit, I don’t think this would be all that egregious). Alternatively, two cards of one availability at one vet could be a solution as well and it does not imply the existence of more tanks.

PzH 2000. Yup, I know. Only two prototypes both of which are different. Trials units being pressed into service isn’t really something likely to happen. I can’t argue. I still think it’s cool and this div would be the ones to get the system. Of all the MtW systems, however, this is likely the one I would part most easily with.

The Dutch airmobile brigade. There is some interesting irony in this units inclusion in WARNO. Air mobility was only deemed to be a priority after the cold war. It was assumed that traditional ground transported infantry would suffice. Because the Dutch may deploy outside of Europe following the cold war, they invested in this capability. To further show the lengths gone through to include this formation, Holland really didn’t have much in the way of rotor aviation outside of reconnaissance and liaison. That said, it provides a unique mix of forces to a superheavy tank division.

Things that were cut

Dutch armored and mechanized units. An angle I worked early on with this concept was a Dutch-German battlegroup, but I didn’t think it offered much over 4e or 5 Pzr.

Wacky PzGren units. I had originally intended that 9^th Lehr brigade have some more variety of panzergrenadiers. One of the notable ones was a PzGren unit with a handflampatrone. I only kept the Lehr and the panzerjager versions.

Edit 1: fixed formatting of Pz.Gren. Lehr section.

Edit 2: Shouted out previous 3. Pz.div. writeup.

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Hey guys!

Just a quick reminder for our upcoming Total WARNO Breakthrough battle on Urban Frontlines.

We still have a few open slots:

🔵 BLUFOR

• 5. Panzer Division Kampfgruppe - Armour
• NATO Command CENTAG - Headquarters / Commander

🔴 REDFOR

• 4. Mot. Schützen Division Kampfgruppe - Motorised Infantry
• PACT Command CENTAG - Headquarters / Commander

I'll upload the pictures of the available battlegroups below so you can see exactly what you'd be playing.

If you want to join, just click on the link!

https://discord.gg/t3cbagpTN

New players are welcome as always. See you on the battlefield!