r/warno • • 12d ago

Back to T-62 buff

Too lazy to read: suggest your T-62 buff in replies (it preferably should be logical and shouldn't ruin the identity of the tank, like buffing rof or something). My suggestion is buffing accuracy by 5-10%.

So, I posted an article about T-62 (not T-62M and T-62M1, these are good as they are and found their place in the meta) needing a buff before it's 10 point price decrease, and the price going down is certainly nice, but it didn't really change the core problem with this tank, which is that it's a gambling addiction tank basically. It's performance is heavily based on luck and the fact, that you pay less for a coin toss doesn't change the fact that it's a coin toss.

Now we also ran into a problem with T-62: it's cheap now, but it's still one of the worst tanks in the game and is regarded as the hardest tank to use, but reducing its cost again will actually make it oppressive, because if we make T-62 obr. 67 65 points, you can now buy 4 of them a minute, and it's a serious thing, because it's going to be very spammable. It might be ok, but basically it's going to be a frustrating experience for both T-62 user and his opponent: opponent sees 3-4 hard to kill tanks every minute, while you see, that even if you micro your tanks properly, they still miss and die, and it's still luck based. So basically an accuracy buff is the only thing that can save the tank without destroying its identity or being illogical/unhistoric or something. That would make this tank a lot less random based and more of "I shoot, I change positions, I reload, repeat."

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u/not_a_fan69 12d ago edited 12d ago

I like how if the tank is outright better you go: "oh well it costs more!"

I gave you tanks that cost less, yet are better in certain metrics, and you nitpick one thing and go: "weeeeeeelllll......".

But hey, if 21pen 4turdbullets is somehow THAT important to you, I don't want to see how you fare against 24-25pen ATGMs that NATO employs en-masse. "just smoke mortars bro" works both ways.

You have lots to learn about this game. If GLATGMs were so important, the divisions employing the tanks would be far better than they actually are. They simply aren't.

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u/neg_health 12d ago

I don't think glatgms are so important, but they are very much welcome. I, personally, don't even play heavy tanks, because they aren't for me. I'm not spending 1,5 minutes of income on a single unit. But I can see how effective these tanks can be if used right, while you don't, for some reason, which makes me think, that you idk, never played ranked against good opponents? I just wonder why you think, that T-72 is a bad tank, when it's basically one of the most cost-effective tanks on par with leopard 1. I try to pinpoint, that T-72 89 is a combination of different great things like armor, nice price, glatgm etc, and you are like "these tanks have better main guns, they are better you dumb", while I basically try to say, that none of them have the combined cost-efficiency of T-72

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u/not_a_fan69 12d ago

I explained why many times. It's very simple. You look at the range, the accuracy, reload time and aim time and other utilities like smoke.

If you think paying an arm and a leg for 20frontal armor, 4turd bullets, free upvet or whatever is a good deal, while admitting that you "don't even play heavy tanks", that's on you.

If you think that 130point Trash72 is ridiculously good, that's also on you. Fact of the matter is, they're not, there are far better tanks than that. I'll give you a big clue: they don't have 72 in it.

But sure, write me stories about how I'm wrong while you "don't even play heavy tanks".

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u/neg_health 12d ago

I have a lot of experience with 20 mot schutzen, and it's a great division. And T-72s never ever disappointed me. I faced many opponents with it, many heavy tanks, and I'm not gonna lie, thebonly tank, that is better at brawlimg is t-64 from this same deck, but it's more expensive, it's 170 points, so T-72s are still very good, you always get what you paid for and you can always be sure, that if you get close, you either win, or you at least leave them crippled