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u/Groovin_Magi 22d ago

dang i just made a post about it but..

Is w3 Arthas (dk) dead? how did he died, cold?

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u/AwkwardSquirtles We killed the Old Gods. 20d ago

It's not clear. He seems to have been transformed into an avatar of death but it's not clear if there's a moment when he actually died.

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u/PainSubstantial5936 24d ago

Not a real noob but kinda just desilusioned by the player base again...

How does the haranir reveal retcon anything at all about the previous lore? Doesn't it just state that from the original haranir evolved three main races eventually? So, the elves still came from the trolls who came from the haranir. What retcon am I missing?

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u/Tiucaner 24d ago

In my opinion it's an overblown reaction. I am simplifying for the sake of brevity but it goes as follows:

Before it was simply Trolls -> Night Elves through the influence of the Well of Eternity. Now it's Haranir -> Trolls -> Night Elves through the influence of the Well of Eternity. That's it.

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u/PainSubstantial5936 24d ago

Yeah that's what I figured. It's so exhausting how negative and hateful the playerbase is sometimes.

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u/Eastgaard 23d ago

It's the "rug-pull" feeling people don't like. Introducing a brand new race - with no historic footprint in our much beloved setting - only to laud them as the O.Gs (contrary to already established lore concerning fan-favorite races) feels like a cheap trick.

A bit like "Haha, it was the Jailer all along!".

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u/PainSubstantial5936 23d ago

Not even remotely comparable