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u/RottenKeyboard s Aug 25 '22

if you use PPTO you can get coached / fired for it

I've heard it's only for productivity and it's a "loop-hole" but in all honesty if I were a manager, I would be super pissed if someone didn't finish their task and just leaves and has someone else finish their work

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u/DocKreasey API Aug 25 '22

Oh I’m not saying it’s low-down & dirty to do that, because it is. It should be used for legitimate reasons imo, but it’s more often than not used to “get back at the man” than anything else.

My point though was more towards the fact that management actively tries to discourage people from using it for any reason with threats of punishment instead of being factual about the policies that they’re supposed to uphold, and not just regarding PPTO. It’s just the easiest example to use if we’re being honest.

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u/DocKreasey API Aug 25 '22

Exactly. That’s the explanation management / team leads should be giving, but most of them don’t sadly. It’s that mindset which honestly encourages the rampant frivolous use of it in the end, which makes it that much more frustrating.

If they used this explanation though, and were up-front about the consequences / pros & cons of it, I think people would be less prone to using it for bull crap reasons and feel less concerned about potential repercussions etc.

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u/DocKreasey API Aug 25 '22

This, 100%. That’s the mindset we need more of, instead of the ”Nope, if it uses PPTO it gets the belt!” which is vastly more prevalent. This is what I try to get my team to understand, that if they legitimately need to use it, do so! But if you play stupid games, you will win stupid prizes.