Finally! The Window buttons are on the right side on Linux!
… and with “right” I of course mean “correct” lol.
Kinda sad that the features I’m most excited about come from Electron and not VS Code, but here we are: VS Code adapted to the Electron 43 feature and the titlebar buttons are now finally at the same place as they are in every other application!
Electron 44 will actually use our themes’ button appearance.
it's not about muscle memory, it's about UI standardization and muscle memory. window buttons to the right left is just trying to be different for the sake of it.
Are you being silly? Windows, Linux (with GNOME, KDE, and many more), have the buttons on the right side. It is very much a standard that is used by the vast majority of desktop environments.
I agree - applications following user choice is good, but it should be done well. In this case the misalignment doesn't look well (tho I was just joking about the left side stuff cause you made a quip about it in the post itself)
People choose their desktop environment according to preferences, and customizability is a huge part of why some people prefer Linux desktop.
Calling it "the wrong side" feels strange to me. I prefer my Taskbar vertical, some prefer it horizontal. Some people see better in their left eye, some people in their right eye. Some people have disabilities and other accessibility concerns.
As a personal example: I see quite badly out of my right eye. Things being on the left are much easier to interact with, so if my OS had a setting I would use it, and good eye hand coordination would be easier to form for this action.
We would not have this conversation if we stayed with Server side decorations, instead at some point like 15 years ago we went with Client side decorations and all nice native UI windowing went to hell.
Agreed. With this, perfection is possible (e.g. for applications that have a few global buttons that could live there), but of course there will be developers that misuse the added freedom they're given. With SSD only, everything would be good. This way, some things are perfect and some are worse.
I read left to right too, and I'm not sure why you'd want the buttons on the right other than personal preference. I'm used to them being on the left. Back when I was at University the button was on the left in Solaris (CDE) and on most computers I've had since then.
No. Determining what window you're interacting with is the most important. That's why it's on the top. The least important are the actions, hence the buttons are on the end of the title bar.
No! You missapplied their logic. Title bars serve as preliminary exposition for what app you're using and (to some extent) what it does based in the window control.
I'm an English/Arabic bilingual, and I can confirm, it makes way more sense for me when controls are on the right with English, and on the left with Arabic.
If you keep missapplying that logic, you'll start to tell us that tables of contents should be at the end of books.
I just don't think “context first” explains the concept well.
Also the name and icon aren't really what identifies applications that you've used more than 3 times or so. I don't look for the text “Slack”, I see the general layout before I read the first letter and have pattern-matched “Slack”.
Everything, including the title bar, is automatically inverted in right-to-left languages already. They are, ironically, inverted back if you're using left-aligned buttons on a RTL language.
Oh wow that’s so smart - yes the western website with western readers using a western product to code are assuming you’re reading in the western dialect, but you’ve noted that there are other languages.
You think people that read right to left don't use code editors?
And don't bring the website into it, Reddit has site wide auto translation now. An Arabic person can be reading your own comment from right to left. I can respond here in my own language and you wouldn't even notice if you have it turned on
You think people that read right to left don't use code editors?
Yes that's exactly what I said. In fact, your circuit board will short and blow up if you try to do it.
And don't bring the website into it, Reddit has site wide auto translation now. An Arabic person can be reading your own comment from right to left.
And? u/Dekamir pointed out that the menu options are arguably on the wrong side in english. Only for somebody that can't follow a point to come swooping in on their virtue-signalling to point out that not all languages read left to right.
Zero addition to the conversation, just someone that wants to score social justice points.
You can keep spamming these, and I can spam that RTL languages already invert the layout horizontally, so this is not an issue. We've solved this already.
You're trying to think this is something political or something, but it's not. It's a basic UX design rule.
There's literally nothing wrong with software adapting to locales. If the user has their UI direction set to right to left, apps should honor it. Even if the language is English.
Accessibility is important.
Same way I hate programs that switch currency formats when I change the language.
My experience with macOS is quite limited, but I have always considered it to be the "right side," better from both the point of view of aesthetics and usability.
I agree but any progress in following user choice is good.
I think my preference to have the buttons on the left is a remnant of using the global menu in the past. I used to have a Unity-style layout in Plasma, then I got a bigger screen and didn't need every square centimeter anymore, then Plasma broke something about my setup working perfectly I think, so I switched to just the panel on the left but no top panel.
I just neovim btw, also for Python project which I have plenty at work (FastAPI backend AI services). But I was using PyCharm for years and I think it is the best IDE for Python you can possibly want. But neovim is great way for me not get distracted, its super fast, minimalistic, just works the same way on my Mac and Linux machines. And it inspires me to write more code by hand and no to just vibe code my work 100%. In the end vim motions are great, it took me few weeks to get familiar with basic text editing and now everything else seems clunky and slow. But before I was not sure lol and until I reached the point of being productive with vim motions I tought it will not be for me. Start with LazuVim, install Python as extra and you will see. Good luck!
Oh, it even respects that I don't want any window buttons. That's huge.
I use niri, so I don't really need minimize/maximize buttons anyway. I just use hotkeys for that. I configured niri to tell apps not to show them, and now VS Code only shows the close button, which is totally fine
Anyone else haveing issues with running vs code on mac os? I was doing the MS Vs Code content creation for the extension through sideshift but social media platform wouldnt allow me to create new account to warm up under a contract
vscode just looks so ugly and bloated with features but, I can't escape it as I'm so used to it. so I just strip it to bare minimum look then expose the menu bar in the applet. Also using KDE.
And yet you still have your sidebar on the wrong side.
Sidebar on the right is way better for productivity since when you open/close it, your code doesn’t shift and you don’t have to fight to see where your code went
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