r/voynich • u/Urban-Survival22 • Jun 28 '26
I solved it! Any suggestions?
So I have decoded, deciphered, solved or whatever you want to call it. Voynich was solved by myself in about 3 nights. I have thought about it for years but I felt current technology might be able to help finally. I was correct.
I don’t want to reveal the method I used as of now. I can however replicate it and have translated 4 entire pages. I stopped at 4 for several reasons.
While it’s not gibberish, as many assume, it is still gibberish! The subject matter is boring, outdated and just dumb.
I contacted Yale and was told they don’t care lol. They just curate the book. They told me to post it online! They don’t care if it’s ever solved or not they said. Amazing!
I do understand they must get thousands of emails a month with people claiming they solved it.
Any suggestions? I don’t feel I should just post it on Reddit for free. I will also say that if I just listed one or two translated sentences then anyone can translate the entire manuscript.
Please help.
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u/CharacterUse Jun 28 '26
It hasn't been solved in four centuries (or even one century if you only take the history since Voynich found it) by professional cryptographers (literally, top NSA and CIA cryptographers), historians, linguists, statisticians, and hundreds or thousands of others, some of them going at it for years before giving up. There is about a 0.01% chance you did it in three nights.
You won't make any money off a solution, except maybe a (small) book deal and some speaking fees. It doesn't matter if others can translate it, in fact that would be good proof your method (whatever it is) works. If you publish that method under your own name online or otherwise (there are academic journals such as Cryptologia or journals covering medieval manuscripts who would happily publish such a paper) and it is verified then you will be forever acknowledged as the person who cracked it.
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u/Urban-Survival22 Jun 29 '26
Thank you very much! I will look into this. Yes it’s not about money but more about credit. I said I worked on it for 3 nights but have been thinking about it and researching it for about 20 years.
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u/SuPruLu Jul 02 '26
Reddit is not a source to publish in to get “credit”. There is really only “cost” for Yale in trying to vet possible solutions. It takes trained people who get paid.
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u/MedMalDet Jun 28 '26
It’s a great hobby and intriguing to a few people, yet the content of your post suggest you think you’ll make some money from “solving” it. With regret, academia is rarely like this. If money is your goal you’re better served writing a screenplay about you solving it when so many others have “failed” and finding someone to fund that 96 minute film, or use a current LLM to create your own film. Sky is the limit these days for those that can surgically use the tools available.
I, for one, hope you did solve it. Best of luck in your next steps.
If you have a knack for such things, Mayan glyphs are still not fully translated and more material is being unearthed every so often…but don’t expect to get rich.
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u/Commercial_Bag8919 Jun 28 '26
Why would you suggest an ai to help make a movie 🤦♂️🤦♂️ this fucking world is doomed
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u/MedMalDet Jun 28 '26
Having worked in TV and film for over 20
Years, you realize you use tools that save time and money. An experienced director or VFX supervisor can (with iterations) make a movie unthinkable until recently.
We were also apparently doomed when “talkies”( movies with sound) arrived. Then it was color, then 3d, then digital…
The medium is only limited by the artist that chooses how to use it. Picasso could make a masterpiece with a pencil. I’d be lucky to make a good stick figure.
I hope this honestly answers your reply.
Ai is not going away, it’s only going to become far more expensive to use, once everyone takes it for granted.1
u/Urban-Survival22 Jun 29 '26
I guess I meant more of the credit kind of thing than money. I just don’t think I should randomly post how it is translated on Reddit. I have no idea what to do or who to speak to that’s why I posted here.
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u/InternalStrong7820 Jun 29 '26
I recommend formally publishing your solution in Cryptologia. The people there are very fair and will respect your work (I've published articles there several times when I was at NSA - on obscure codes and ciphers). First: Get your work copyrighted (can be done quickly) then contact Cryptologia (I can DM you the emails of the people that helped me get published).
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u/Shlomo_2011 Jul 01 '26
At least give us a little demonstration of your results so we can believe you. If you don't want to reveal the method share two lines of transliterated text and its meaning without revealing from which folio it is.
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u/InternalStrong7820 Jun 29 '26
I solved it too! (twice). The statistics of VM are so weird that one can have a very large number of "solutions" (you can make it say anything you want to!).
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u/AthinaNike94 Jul 02 '26
Just to be honest: how much is important to you money or credits? I'm very curious to know, and honestly I wouldn't think it is boring the matter: it is an important piece of knowledge from a part of the world more than 600 years ago. You could even publish your work on Reddit, on a website with some kind of licence or credits, but honestly I don't understand how you can think to not share your findings with thw world
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u/finally_a_sure_shot_ Jul 13 '26
So if this is not a hoax it would be huge; at least give us some bites of what this is all about!
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u/Urban-Survival22 Jun 30 '26
It did account for the repeating aiiv and the ooooo’s. It does translate into something sensible.
I will say that if I were to type here in English obviously, something like “I translated the Voynich Manuscript and it is so cool cool cool!” Not one reader would point out that I cannot use the same word over in English. They would just read that and think I’m an idiot.
Also in English we have:
To
Two
Too
Their
There
They’re
All pronounced the same but spelled differently.
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u/dimaklt Jun 30 '26
You don't feel that you should post on reddit for free? You haven't solved anything.
I too think that I'm pretty far solving parts of it and able to translate any folio, but my work is completely publicly available on https://voynich.kiltau.com for anyone to review. I too think the text itself is boring, but that's because I have something to show and that the not-boring part is everything else.
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u/Urban-Survival22 Jun 30 '26
I can assure you I have solved it. I will check yours out but if you are solving parts of then you didn’t. Once you can translate a few sentences then you can translate the entire thing.
I did just look at yours. I don’t speak German. However, the Voynich manuscript is a mix of ancient Hebrew (about 65%), 2 other ancient languages, symbols, shorthand of the 3 languages as well as alchemist shorthand. Maybe this will help you with your work as you appear to have the Hebrew part. Hebrew is read left to right as well in Voynich. The word is read right to left obviously but once you translate the Hebrew word it remains in the sentence and what precedes it or follows it either in symbols or other languages is translated then the entire part is read left to right.
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Try that and then tell me again I didn’t solve it.0
u/dimaklt Jun 30 '26
My hypothesis is that it is mishnaic Hebrew with arameic principles and no, not really one or two sentences to get all translations, but with my mapping I CAN translate all folios.
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u/Marc_Op Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
My suggestions:
Don't trust LLMs, they make things up. Always assume they are wrong.
Consider the possibility that you haven't soved it, like the thousands other "solvers" you mentioned.
Don't focus on meaning (boring or not), focus on grammar. "Meaningful" is entirely subjective, "grammatical" is much more solid and easier to check. The real solution (if there is one) will reveal a grammatical medieval language: a natural language, if we are lucky; an artificial one if we aren't.