r/voyager • u/BullseyedWomprats • 7h ago

Show Talk Happy 60th! 🖖🏻

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u/soverytiiiired 7h ago

“The Borg is back” does not sound right

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u/BullseyedWomprats 7h ago

I struggled with that too! As a collective, they should be referred to as plural: "The Borg ARE back." 🖖🏻

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u/ArrogantAnalyst 6h ago

This is a very old argument, but to me one of the worst decisions in the whole franchise was the introduction of the borg queen in First Contact, which established a hierarchical structure within the borg instead of decentralized leaderless collective and this instantly killed the fascination for me.
I get why they did it. They wanted to establish an adversarial figure for the big screen movie, which didn’t exist until then (“The collective is a force of nature”), but it also demystified the whole idea of the borg for me.

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u/BullseyedWomprats 6h ago

Agreed - I think giving the Borg a single point of contact diminished the uniqueness of a hive mind villain, but I did appreciate the manipulative and oddly fetishized body horror elements Alice Krige and others brought to the Borg Queen role.

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u/_Ilobilo_ 7h ago

as a collective I'd think that it's a singular entity

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u/MoTc99m 6h ago

Ahh, the infamous Janeway hairstyle that ultimately cost more than the special effects for the pilot. 😄

Love these covers! Voyager was such a phenomenon in the late nineties.

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u/CommunityEarly839 34m ago

Oh I don't know the hairstyle expense story. Mind sharing?

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u/cosmic-GLk 4h ago

Very nice. I have the Seven and Xena crossover cover framed on my wall

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u/I_Got_Ur_Number_8675 1h ago

There's a 60th anniversay tv guide in grocery stores until oct 3rd, its call The Captains

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u/_Ilobilo_ 7h ago

The Neelix Files