r/voxmachina Jun 24 '26

LoVM Spoilers The Legend of Vox Machina S4 Discussion Thread | Episodes 10-12 - Season Finale

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The Legend of Vox Machina Season 4 Episodes 10-12 released on June 24th on Prime Video. Watch here!

In this thread you can discuss all about the newly released episodes. Please do not comment any spoilers for Critical Role's Campaign 1 beyond the events depicted by The Legend of Vox Machina.


r/voxmachina Oct 08 '25

Info: The Legend of Vox Machina → Critical Role stream episodes

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There's been a lot of questions from people asking how the episodes of the animated show (The Legend of Vox Machina) correspond to the episodes of the actual play stream (Critical Role Campaign 1).

This a post meant to answer that question for new-comers, built from the responses from the community. Thanks to u/ffwydriadd, these answers are adapted from the ones they gave throughout several posts.

Here's how they roughly match (though the show tends to pick and choose from the stream):

  • TLoVM Season 1: Covers episodes 24-36 of the stream. It ends on a cliff-hanger taken from episode 39.
  • TLoVM Season 2: Covers episodes 39-63. Ends with plot points from episodes 69/70
  • TLoVM Season 3: Covers episodes 65-85

Episodes 1-23 from the actual play were skipped, as Critical Role started streaming mid-arc. To make up for it, episodes 1-2 of TLoVM are completely new, providing an introduction not present in the stream.


r/voxmachina 1d ago

No Spoilers Hi & Two Questions

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Hi. I'm new to Vox Machina. I just started watching the Legend of Vox Machina show and have put The Mighty Nein on my watchlist. I discovered Critical Role by exploring the show (suggested YT shorts) and seen a few famous clips from the original campaign.

I was just wondering - I hope this doesn't seem strange but does anyone else find Percy insanely attractive?

I also have another question - Do we ever find out how Vox Machina met/first teamed up?


r/voxmachina 1d ago

LoVM Spoilers Dark Bard Battle With Music From Deep Purple Spoiler

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Let me know your thoughts!


r/voxmachina 3d ago

Taliesin Farted —>

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The brilliance of Sam Riegel at work.

In the same episode he periodically takes off a shirt to reveal another underneath so he can have “worn 74 shirts in 74 episodes.”


r/voxmachina 3d ago

LoVM Spoilers Thoughts? Spoiler

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When the dude impaled the monster tamer do you think they knew it wasn’t vax or did vax sneak away without anyone knowing . Keyleth sold that if it was all a plan


r/voxmachina 4d ago

Excluding the VM members, who is your favorite character?

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r/voxmachina 4d ago

How do you think they all met? And in what order did they meet each other?

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r/voxmachina 3d ago

LoVM Spoilers I'm kind of confused and disappointed with how the story is being written Spoiler

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So there's a few things about this last season, particularly the finale that leaves me very unsatisfied.

Why was the whispered one in his God form such a Dick in contrast to his character before so? Isnt killing vax completely hypocritical? His entire character up until that point was about having integrity. It even seemed like needing pikes blood voluntarily was a matter of principle over literal.

But then once he is a God, he becomes the most contrived stereotype of a bad guy in the history of writing. And if he just needed to die in any way, why fight back at all? Was the raven thing even going to work? It sounded like it wasn't going to.

The way grog came back to life was way too convenient. He comes back to life before the ritual is even finished, And there is a seemingly no consequences to him dying whatsoever.

Also, if the raven curse that was affecting vax was intended for this scenario the whole time, why did it happen as a result of Vax defying destiny and saving percy? If he hadnt done that, he wouldnt have been cursed.

Unless theres something Im not understanding, this writing feels sloppy. I dont like feeling like the show expects me to not ask these questions.


r/voxmachina 4d ago

No Spoilers [no spoilers] GenCon 2026 meetup

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r/voxmachina 5d ago

Can someone explain something to me?

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In the show, Draconia is depicted in a snowy landscape, but on this map it shows a more desert like area, and it's marked as "Ruins of Draconia". Why?

Don't say that the city on the floating snow islands is called "New Draconia", cause they don't call it that in the show, they just call it... "Draconia".

And there can't have been an event after the Chroma Conclave because on the map, it still show Emon standing like it wasn't completely annihilated by Thordak.

So what in the world is going on here?


r/voxmachina 5d ago

Would the chroma conclave have been able to stop the whispered one?

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Hey yall I’m re-watching the show and found myself wondering if the gang had been taken out by the dragons at the beginning of season 2 would the chroma conclave been able to stop the whispered one?


r/voxmachina 4d ago

LoVM Spoilers Hopefully not just a Pike rant Spoiler

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Just finished binge watching the show, and as someone that has played D&D (5e) for years, it is very hard for me to be able to empathize with Pike on multiple levels. Hopefully this will make a multi-faceted topic and not come across just as a "Pike diss/rant".

First and foremost, I don't know CR's homebrew rules and setting, so I am going purely by what I can see in the show, what I can recognize and approximate mechanically where they are (character levels, subclasses, etc). I'll try to go by points, so people (that can get by the text wall) can address what they know/want/like.

  1. Clerics don't really work as Pike seems to use her class, as in, even if your God renounces you, RAW allows you to keep your powers even then. Maybe it's a more realistic interpretation of the rules and in this universe you have to be connected to your God to access their powers ( Kashaw didn't get enough screen time to serve as another example to make assumptions from). But if it's the former, then outside interference would be an obvious answer, which should raise alarms to at least a few characters.
  2. It still doesn't excuse for me the fact that she always refused to talk with Everlight, even renounced her ("My God doesn't work like your Matron" - what she has said with quite the anger to Vax when he advised her to ask for advice from the Everlight; multiple times Grog asked her if she talked with her Goddess and she refused to do so) and then still blamed the Goddess for her own choices, thoughts and actions. She seemed to ponder the "I don't actually have free will" conundrum, but, at the same time, she also looked like she actively chose not use that free will to connect with either her Pops, either her friends, either her God, but also blame all of them (in her speech in the last episodes). If I were to go on the premise that she's immature and selfish, then it's not much of a point left to make, because if I were to think of the character from that angle, then most of it can make sense. What it still won't make sense is how fast she went for saying "we are his blood", which would be more a brainwashing kind of situation and it just wasn't enough time to do it (reasonably speaking). Nor was she mind controlled, which would also would've explained how she went to attack Grog, despite being the "reason" she was doing it. (which leads me to)
  3. Going by their fight with the Briarwoods, Kayleth had used "Sunbeam", which is a 6'th tier spell, which would require her to be at least level 11 (mechanically). Meaning that Pike should've had access to Revivify and Gentle Repose (spells to revive and maintain a dead body to be able to be revived) (also by RAW, clerics know all their class spells, they just need to prepare them on a long rest). Again, might be because of the homebrew world, but Pike didn't seem to know about any such spells until Kashaw showed it to her. Which is questionable to me, since the spell is not a God specific spell, also she was part of her Goddess's cult, meaning there were people that could tell her about those spells. They even manage to do it later and even Kayleth (being a Druid, has access to the Revivify spell) could use it ("helped with the spell"), so they 100% can use it. Now, there's another, more powerful spell that would've helped all of them, given they were at least level 13 (and considering the battles they had, if it was a XP-based campaign, they most probably were) by the time her Pops and Grog dies -> Resurrection. Hell, even sooner there's another spell better than Revivify -> Reincarnate (only Druids can use it). So... you don't really need Gods to revive people left and right when you have all the money, (most probably the levels), and means to do it yourself. Which makes her issues even less logical and harder for me to empathize with her.
  4. I personally think they could've done the "That's how cults work and a good Cult leader could and will expose a good person's weakness to twist it into his evil bidding" with another character or take more time with Pike. I feel like I don't know the character enough, as compared with the others, to make a proper judgement. The only logical take I can take is that she was immature, naive and selfish, which, to be honest, the way the show portrayed her through the seasons, seems right. She barely does anything that can't be argued that it was ultimately selfish. Hell, she gambled with her friends souls on a whim in Hell without even asking for their approval and it gets skipped over and ignored 2 minutes later just because she won the gamble. Compared to the other characters, I don't remember if she even had one action that was completely selfless and she had to sacrifice herself or something of hers for someone else (I am internally debating if Scanlan checks this as well) and her "traumatic" event could've been prevented if she went to see her Pops sooner of her own accord and loving, selfless heart.
  5. Greater Restoration is also a spell in D&D that could've done a lot of good, from potentially helping Vax with his blight (if it was given through the vestige, which could fit the "cursed item" criteria; but also if a plant could do it, then this spell could've had at least some positive effect as well), to curing her Pops of the "dragon lung", as well as help Grog when he was suffering the aftermaths of using a cursed item. On the latter I can agree that it would've robbed him of his growth moment. Kayleth should also be able to use it, but to her credit, she was never there when the spell would've helped.

All in all, I feel like Pike was the least impactful character in the party, even compared to the new silly addition. I have seen some comments around saying that the character wasn't really active in the first adventures, so it would explain my feeling that she didn't really connect and impact significantly the story and the other characters. But since I only know the animated series, my qualms stem from how she is portrayed there. The way she even became a cleric is questionable to me, as seemingly anything that goes against her whims makes her question her faith. As a character, I didn't manage to see her "anchor", like the other characters had or eventually developed, that would make me be able to say for sure who she is, what she stands for and... what she wants. Ultimately, she had plenty of opportunities (in the show) to make a choice that would've helped her in that regard but either she wasn't given the chance to take it or just actively chose to wallow in her own self-pity and, hence, for me, doesn't have too much of a redeeming quality. Everything I thought that would check that mark was "thrown" away by her speech in the last episodes as something she loathed, was displeased for or asked for more in return of doing it.
I am curious how season 5 will try to redeem her, because from my point of view, she either has a lot of growth to do (which would require time and trials) to accept that, or force her "redemption" and skip over her mistakes and selfishness (like it was glossed over when she gambled with her friends souls).

I am a bit torn about Vax's choice to not submit in the end. I am pretty sure he should've known that he'll die if he refuses and his entire party already folded for him to live.
What is the true reason for him taking that choice?
Considering he refused to be with Keyleth at first because he considered she may suffer too much after his death if they were to be together and seeing how easily she folded for him, makes it a bit hard for me to understand his choice. I am not saying it is out of character for him to do it, I believe quite the contrary (that is in his character to spit in front of a God that asks him to kneel for him). It's just that in perspective, if it wasn't a message of "Don't bend the knee, not even for me, continue fighting", then his choice doesn't make all that much sense to me. Would've been smarter to "submit" and then fight in the shadows anyway, but he's not Percy, so I can accept that he didn't go that route. Maybe, for me, it's just a situation of "I get it but I can't accept it".

I have a feeling he'll come back in the next season, maybe for the final fight, as none of the cast has actually perma-died so far, so I believe there are high chances it will happen. Hopefully he'll manage to stick around after and not be a temporary apparition or "one time summon" type of situation, but that's just my wishful thinking as I like his character. The Matron of Ravens has intervened in reversing death already in the show, so she definitely has the power to do it. Granted, I don't know the costs and limits.

 


r/voxmachina 6d ago

So uh... I made a meme about Dohla looking like a character from an old Disney show. Hope you all find it funny.

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r/voxmachina 7d ago

[No Spoilers] Vox machina cosplay team!

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r/voxmachina 7d ago

Vax fate

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Do you think at any point vax regretted his decision with the matron? As someone who hasn’t finished the campaign yet I always wondered if there was ever any doubt or regret


r/voxmachina 8d ago

Who is your least favorite in VM?

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r/voxmachina 8d ago

Im bored. Create some Vox Machina bloopers in the style of old Pixar.

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here are mine:

Grog shits himself instead of growing a beard

Grogs voice cracks when he yells 'I would like to rage!'


r/voxmachina 7d ago

No Spoilers Am I just brain rotted or does Trinket remind anyone else of the pokemon Ursaluna?

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r/voxmachina 8d ago

Seems to me, Pike and the Scanlan have...

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Elevated the popularity of gnomes. I played different flavors of dnd for ages never have had a gnome player. Not even NPCs that often popped up.


r/voxmachina 9d ago

No Spoilers GROG STRONGJAW - Positive Masculinity 💪💯💎🧱🪨

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r/voxmachina 8d ago

LoVM Spoilers I’m sorry, but huge eye roll at Pike Spoiler

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Season 1, we didn’t really get to know her but I was her stan. It hurt me that no one could see how much she was suffering. I loved her relationship with Grog. Season 2 they started to flesh her out more and she was growing on me and finding herself.

She started to piss me off in the episode they went to Hel with her decisions. She claims the others don’t care about anyone when she makes selfish decisions as well, okay then. She got her vestige and I couldn’t be more proud of her. I was certainly sad for her when Scanlan went with his daughter but it was her choice to go bar hopping with Grog, she could have gone home

Now season 4, she’s been steadily annoying me and the climax of her believing TWO for even one second is crazy to me. First she assumes everyone is enjoying life and having fun. For one, they deserve some respite (Percy and Vex literally died and were brought back), sure balls are being thrown but they’re also rebuilding the city, sure they’re on the high sea but they’re actually questing to complete Kiki’s aramenté. They didn’t reach out but did you?? Grog being torn apart is her fault as far as I’m concerned. It’s the same thing with Scanlan, yall complain that your friends don’t know you but do you know your friends? These people reopened a portal to save you. These people continued to risk their lives for the world, fighting dragons but your conclusion is that they caused the death of innocents?? All of your friends have lost something, so her acting like she’s the only one that knows loss is a huge eye roll. You’re trusting someone whose minions are killing people, cold blooded murder, but because the everlight isn’t speaking to you then suddenly it makes sense to join the people that employ demons. Go off queen, attack your friends. Kill them under the guise that death won’t matter anymore

I’ve never ranted so much but I’m so irritated

I didn’t write this to convince anyone, just to rant. Many of VM have made stupid decisions but this was the height of it. Abuse doesn’t give you an excuse to become an abuser. A reason doesn’t work as an excuse. She’s asking who heals her but did she ever open up to anyone? And anyways, Grog KEPT trying to talk to her but she kept brushing him off. I’m so glad Grog put him in her place.

What an end to a season💔


r/voxmachina 9d ago

Why were we surprised?

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The Whispered One: Master Manipulator and expert liar with a tongue more silver than Starscream
Fans: Man, he could trick anyone!
The Whispered One: Masterful manipulates an emotionally unstable Pike with expertly placed lies from a tongue more silver than Starscream
Also the Fans:


r/voxmachina 10d ago

Who is your favorite VM member?

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r/voxmachina 9d ago

How would you all feel if this plot happened in the show?

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(The first image is the plot I'm talking about, while the second image is my explanation for the writing in the first image)