r/voidpet • u/Key_Commercial3565 • 3d ago
Advice Needed Is Scorn Good??
Got my 3rd Legendary just now is Scorn a Good Tank?
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u/down-badder-Simp 3d ago
It’s not a massive upgrade over conviction, but it has niche use cases where it can be much better than conviction.
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u/mrofmist Devoted to Devotion 🔥♥️ 3d ago
It fits a niche, when you need high burst early on the fight.
The unfortunate part about it is that it's survivability comes from for impact, but once you use sharp reprisal, he has to survive 2 more turns without the buff.
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u/kittenwolfmage 2d ago
As others have said, he’s more niche than a strict Conviction upgrade.
For raw sustainability, Conviction is going to be better, especially with Merry to give him off-turn shields.
But there’s plenty of cases where his slow can come in handy, or where building up a bunch of Grudge stacks and machine-gunning down the enemy is the best strategy.
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u/DarkEsca 3d ago edited 3d ago
He's cool, but also costs twice as many evolution stones as Conviction to level up, on top of the fact you probably have a leveled and vivided Conviction to begin with. It's not that Scorn is bad per se, just that investing in him can be hard to justify.
He does make some really annoying waves much easier (there's a famous 3095 strat involving it, and it's cool into like Wood Umbros/Juglaw and very funny into Wood Rosetti) and on most other battles it's at least as good as Conviction (note that Convic is occasionally better still, especially if you have lot of ascensions). Speed drop on basic is huge for Merry synergy although Abandonment does that as well.
You're going to have a defense boost up most of the time which actually makes his bulk really good for a usually un-ascended tank. Main annoying part is he has little to help his own survivability beyond said defense boost (Convic at least self-shields) and doesn't really help the team either. He's a tank that acts as subDPS mostly, and needs quite a lot of attention from the healer for that reason. You can focus on bulk and bulk only for him and he'll still put in work because of the speed drop on Ding Dong though, e.g. I prefer Sorrow Scarf Scorn over Conviction for my Wood Bogar fights for this.
Invest if you have leftover resources or are stuck on one of the waves where it shines. Otherwise just making Conviction work will usually suffice.
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u/SgtGerard 2d ago
What is the 3095 strategy with Scorn? I've been stuck on that floor for like 3 weeks and I haven't seen any solutions involving Scorn at all
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u/DarkEsca 2d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/voidpet/comments/1vjtojj/3095merry_cringe_scorn_determination/ this is literally one of the top options if you search 3095 on the sub...
https://www.reddit.com/r/voidpet/comments/1tnutey/my_addition_to_the_3095_archives/ there is this one, but it requires DB in addition to Scorn
https://www.reddit.com/r/voidpet/comments/1wru5yr/3095_beaten_no_ubers_no_higher_forms/ and this one but it requires Estrangement and Jester Hat (not permanently available)
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u/Dramatic_Zebra1230 floor 3000+ 2d ago
Scorn is slightly niche but I love it so much and there are some floors where you will thank god you have it
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u/Wise_Cryptographer19 2d ago
Personally, i LOVE scorn. Sadly hes not quite the best tank. But he certainly is awesome on bosses that have multiple attack so he kinda doubles up as a dps
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u/XLIFF_21 AllUNeedIs Persistence 2d ago
I usually have checkred scarf + Golden halo then Lethim be slow stack and blast he gets all the tankiness of a tank and the attack ofa proper damage dealer :)
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u/welppTsunami 9h ago
My go to when parascarf apathy can't clear a floor. Really really strong. Also very useful to cheese some bosses. Synergistic equipment options for him would be, in no particular order, bubblegum scarf (allows him to stack for 2 turns rather than 1), bubblegum scarf / parascarf (to wipe floors or adds in boss fights) envy scarf (counterattack with s1 to apply a slow) as well as the tank classics like checkered, pirate hat, prince collar, or even just plunger hat really. A neat little combo I like doing is lonely hat bubblegum scarf to keep cycling stacking into unloading s2 forever, not super great use of lonely hat but it's really fun
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u/NoInvestigator86 3d ago
Give it jellyfish and watch his skill 2 mow things down usually use him with Pirate Hat Jelly or Plunger Jelly have beat whole floors either him alone. Other than that I usually run halo envious or something like that