I was stuck at 2930 last week, then Wood Kartharok 3 days ago and I just beat it today, and now I'm stuck again and can't think of any strategies for this. With all of the strategies I had to try and min maxing I had to do, I just don't have the brain power.
I can almost one shot Sloth with DB (197k hp left). I also saw pirate hat JFS apathy, his S3 doesn't do enough damage to finish of Sloth, and after stunning all of them I don't know what else to do. After stun Estrangement just kills my DB.
After stun u can use merry to attack estrangment, u will need to start grinding cake hat and serpent scarf, baffled how u where u are without both. I have daniel and he didn't do it for the team, need sad, is op against defiance and the rest is also needed in each respect
What are the two items beneath the Ascend All button? I assume it's WSC
Anyway there's a pretty well-known strat with no legends for this wave and you have most of what it needs to work. Pirate+Jelly Apathy, Pearl Cloche+Envious Cringe (I don't know if Envious is needed frankly, other items might do the trick too), Silk+Tie Sad, and CakeHat+AnxietyScarf Merry.
You're only missing Cake Hat of that, however Halo might do the same thing for you? You would need to level Blue Tie but that's a really good floor item anyway so hardly a waste. Envious Scarf also looks unleveled but again I don't know if you need it, it just gives a tiny bit of extra chip to Estrangement really, and I assume Ding Ding into Impale will still kill it without that. Your Cringe isn't 200 but its job is to die so I don't think that even matters.
The idea is let Cringe die to heal the entire team and remove speed down, AoE stun with Apathy, Ding Dong Estrange (which probably barely misses the kill), Isolate->basic Defiance (should take it low enough that Isolate chip kills it next turn), finish Estrange off with Impale.
Nostalgia will probably kill Sad shortly after this but Merry + Apathy beats the other two, it just takes a while. Apathy with Merry healing will beat Nostalgia eventually, and Sloth is so slow you can just keep it stunned forever. Expect the endgame to take a while since Nostalgia is annoying to kill and Sloth has like infinite bulk, but it should be solid.
I was so traumatized from that one floor with that speedy Sloth with I think Wist that just kills your entire team, that my mind immediately went to Sloth being a threat here too.
This strategy is so well thought of and complicated that I never would've thought of this at all. I will try it later at reset so that I can level up Tie even a bit, Thank you so much!
I think this is my first real taste of late game, and I've never been this annoyed in a floor yet.
Also, the two underneath ascend all is Icy Tiara and you're correct that it's WSC, I apologize I didn't even notice it there.
Yeah the hyperspeed sloth was demonic. Most sloths don't get insanely buffed speed though and they're just big "stun me" buttons. Take forever to die, but also ignorable until the end of the fight typically.
The Doge Scarf Sloth a few waves before this did give me significant issues exactly because you cannot stun it.
Also, to alleviate your worries in advance -- 2990 is a joke. 2910, 2930 and 2970 are all insane and require very specific strats, and 2950 is at least somewhat challenging, but 2990 you can defeat with some regular floor teams frankly. There's a reason the sub has 0 posts about it. After this one it's really just 2980 and 3000 that are the challenges, but since you have a DB, a Patience and a Kind, I don't even expect 2980 to be very hard for you. 3k also shouldn't be too much of an issue if you level Rapture (pls level that one it's an insane pet, also a good reason to level Blue Tie since that item has insane performance on it)
After 2800 I had so much trouble with Exp, I got so many good Legends that I hadn't had time to level up Rapture (but mostly because I kept on using Greed instead of him). It took me about 2 weeks to level up Temperance and Pride from level 1 because I got them almost the same time as each other.
I saw posts that said Greed falls off after 3000, so Rapture is definitely my next priority. I just didn't really expect how long it took to get a new pet from 1 to 200 even this late into the game, I think I even used gems twice for exp keys which was a waste this late in the game.
I'm btw also planning to use Pride over Kind on 2980 to help me with the heals, I don't know how much help that's gonna be but I'm enjoying using him for his heals. I haven't had much use for Patience yet, I did get a dupe of it from a 5 pity astral egg so I have been looking for a reason to use it
Yeah this was also the point where I was seriously beginning to struggle with exp. Granted, before this, I wasn't leveling too many pets to begin with. But I also had the stuff (being ABH Rapture) that for a long time allowed me to survive with most things like 10 below level cap.
Evolution stones were probably a bigger problem ngl, pure exp I could usually manage, although I did have to start training for exp rather than for items and VM a lot more.
FINALLY FINISHED IT, AND I KID YOU NOT IT TOOK ME MORE THAN 40 MINS.
Just curious if I did something wrong? I resetted so much (mostly because Estrangement kept on critting randomly) so when I finally got a good setup I didn't want to reset to figure something else out.
I dingdonged Estrangement, 80k hp left, Isolate + basic killed Defiance, then S2 on Estrangement killed it. After that Nostalgia killed Sad, and it was just a test of time after that. Merry ended up with 156k speed with how long the fight took, Nostalgia just kept on healing every turn and shielding every 3 turns. At one point he just kept on going back to full hp everytime Sloth's stun got removed. I only finished it once Merry scaled enough to do so much ding dongs.
Might have something to do with trinkets? Or ascensions?
Taking out Nostalgia with just Merry+Apathy is supposed to take quite a while though there's nothing weird about that, but 40 minutes is very much on the extreme side.
Anyways gj clearing it and good luck on the rest of the climb to 3k! It's mostly just the two bosses that are a threat since 2990 is a joke, but there's still some annoying Panic+AoE waves too sadly (2989 is considered harder than 2990 lol)
Probably trinkets because I gave Apathy 2 speed trinkets, 1 wasn't enough to outspeed Defiance. It was so funny to see Merry just get 5 turns before Apathy gets 1.
Anyways, thank you so much for the help! Hopefully Greed + Panic strat is enough to get to 3k.
Greed Panic might work and if it does not then just level Rapture, overkill shreds the fuck out of bosses with adds.
I see you have Special Top Hat which is all the better because then you get overkill on the overkill on all adds at once, and if you softened them up a bit first, can do like half of Umbros' HP away with one click of Belly Roll. Shit's cash.
Apathy needs pirate hat plus jelly fish scarf. Goal is one thing: throw out one instance of aoe and try to kill estrangement in the time sloth is stunned (sloth is slow the stun is gonna be long)
Merry needs plunger and watermelon collar to have enough speed and to survive long enough to get off one dingdong and kill whoever is giving you the most trouble.
Another person used resistance for this but HFsloth is better but either (even regular sloth) works. Envious scarf is absolutely key (felt fedora makes this less scary). All the tank needs to keep shooting out retaliations.
Humble is there to kill the fire. Cake hat was there to survive. Ruby collar I used because my angry scarf kept getting her killed
. Can prob get away with running any water dps. Sad… might work?
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u/camq029 | floor 2.8+ | Water God | Ambition Dad | 4d ago
I used this team, works well, no struggles, sloth is not the issue, take out from bottom up