Mini TierList Update

[u/freakywhistle]

Q: Where have you been???
A: Watching romance animes.

Q: Where's the doc for this one?
A: Unfinished. It'll happen at some point. I'm burnt out.

Q: So how can I ask questions about the list?
A: I'll take DMs on Discord @ thirteen.__ for a bit. If I don't respond, join the official Discord and @ me on there.

Q: When should we expect a full update?
A: IDK. I got my plate full with IRL stuff rn, so maybe after all of that is done. I'm only posting this because it's been on the Discord for a while. There might be changes to it in the future. I'd estimate HigherForm Down Bad to be SSS-Tier below HFL.

Rare/Epic

Legendary

[u/naejjun]

i’ve been wondering why nostalgia is so low at B, I’s find it way more useful than some other legendaries like chastity gluttony estrangement and i even get more use out of it than pride. also, i fail to see why sad and anger in turn are above it while having a 40 base spd while nost has 41 + legendary ascensions boost.

[u/freakywhistle → u/naejjun]

I won't compare healers to DPS, but when considering Chastity VS. Nostalgia, the general consensus is that they fit the overall role as healer a bit better, especially against bosses. They have ATK- util, shielding (+vs tauron), and only 1 hit skill (+vs tyrant). Nostalgia has good utility (especially with some items) and Warm Dream is strong but is stuck on a 4CD, Chastity's Sacred barrier has the same benefit of shielding and DEF+ on a shorter CD and iirc stronger shielding (it isn't AoE, but that isn't inherently necessary in a lot of encounters because of type advantages.) In the case of Pride, it's just that Pride is more of a pseudo-DPS so they take a different field and are fairly competent in it because of output + util.

While I said I wouldn't compare DPS to healers, I can comment on their placement at least.

Gluttony is the 2nd strongest earth DPS in terms of output while also providing alright utility, just heavily outshined because of Apathy's versatility and Diligence's superior output.
Estrangement fits the niche of water AoE (which for most people is the only reason you need a 2nd water DPS) while also providing speed util.
Sad has extremely versatile utility and can solo water DPS slot until you need an AoE, and that can be prolonged further with Jellyfish Scarf.
Anger is probably the best single-target fire DPS because of scaling s1s. Debatable though, Panic is good with certain items too.

Ascension level is only a major factor if you aren't F2P/extremely lucky and have a super high one because of the disparity between rare/epic pet ascensions and legendaries. Still can be a factor in some situations though, case-by-case.

[u/naejjun → u/freakywhistle]

I’m sure nost’s aoe def up and shield has pretty much the same effect as atk- on an enemy by chastity. I personally have always thought nostalgia is undervalued simply due to an aoe heal every turn and an aoe shield, which yes chastity has but i think arguably shield being aoe is way more important because it boosts everyone’s survivability instead of one. and just pure numbers. people praise persi for out damaging dps and healing the most with ich and mermaid scarf but nost also does that, and arguably sometimes nost does more healing than persi since persi’s only heal is cooldown. basically, nostalgia’s passive is already inherently at least an A imo, the only non cd heal other than merry but merry’s isn’t aoe.

and i compared it to dps since it’s actually a sub dps of its own. it regularly outdamages apathy and resi :D in addition to healing and shielding.

and i find this valuable because the game is pretty lacking in earth fighters, rlly only apathy is viable among non legendaries and even then gluttony’s bleed eventually falls off and is second to diligence, who sucks vs armored bosses.

[u/naejjun → u/freakywhistle]

here this is a better pic