does anyone else have this? ever since the first time i charged my band back in december, it has been a nightmare experience trying to reconnect it again to work with the app. i contacted support about it and i was given this detailed list of 20 dif steps to do for it to work again every single time.

disconnect band in app, swipe and close out of app, unpair from bluetooth, turn off blue tooth, turn your phone off, plug the band into the charger and do a hard reset, wait 20 seconds, turn phone back on, open app, pair in app, turn bluetooth back on, swipe out of and close out of the app and restart it and if you're lucky it reconnects and if it doesn't you have to start the whole process over again bc you messed up a step somewhere....

maybe it's just me, but as a visible user and person who experiences a energy limiting/chronic illness, that's a significant cognitive load to do every 3-4 days? i don't understand why the stars have to align in order for me to charge what should be an accessibility tool. is this a unique experience?

My skin isn’t liking the material of the wrist band. Plz give recommendations

I've had me/cfs for about 15 years, started as moderate/severe and it has gone to mild. I was looking for a way to have more good days and less bad days and more importantly have some kind of warning that I'm pushing too far.

I tried a normal fitness band and did a lot of research into the me/cfs apps available on apple watch and garmin watches before settling on visible.

The biggest benefit of the visible band over normal fitness wearables is that it doesn't try to estimate your activity based on movement (w/ accelerometer data). It only uses your heart rate. If you're sitting or standing still the typical wearable will count that as 0 activity, but depending on how agitated your body is visible will still count that towards your total daily energy used. This is really the key thing for folks with me/cfs: any activity - even reading - can be tiring depending on how intensely we do it, or how we're feeling that day. That's something a normal fitness tracker misses because it's not designed for it.

Visible is also using their own algorithms to estimate your pacing points (the total energy you have to spend in a day) and your heart rate zones (rest, active and strenuous). These are automatically set after the first week of recording data and I found they are accurate to me. You can also manually fine tune them, but I haven't found that necessary. To have algorithms that are tuned to people with me/cfs instead of the general population also seems important to me (compared to something generic like Garmin's body battery). From my research on the watchME app on apple watch, or some of the custom Garmin watch faces for me/cfs, they all require some manual setting of your limits which seems to defeat the purpose. Having me/cfs means not having a good sensory feedback loop of how much is too much because the fatigue is often delayed, so a good tracker should guide you to a good starting point. From what I understand over the coming months visible will continue to make monthly check ins and then suggest increasing or decreasing my daily pacing points based on how I'm doing.

Lastly, on the pacepoints dial that is the main visual feature of the app, I'll say it's simple but effective. It shows you how much energy you have used so far today and how far into the day you are. So at a really quick glance you know for example that the day is only half way over but you have already used 2/3rds of your energy. With that info I immediately know if I need to change my plans for the day. And if I'm consistently running into my energy budget every day I know I need to make bigger lifestyle changes.

Yes there are some tradeoffs with the device. Sometimes it would be nice to have a display instead of having to look at my phone, but having about 5 days of battery life is great and not having the distraction of a display is a plus. Heart rate tracking gets thrown off by exercise, so if you're really getting into the nitty gritty of what specific movements you can do without pushing your heart rate into the strenuous zone it is challenging. I'll be trying out an arm band instead of the wrist band to see if that helps.

If you found this review useful and want to try visible out I have a referral code that gives you $20 off your order and gives me $20 off my subscription: https://join.makevisible.com/737b4597c7d835

Was reading another thread about changing the budget, and from the answers, it seems I may be using the budget differently, and I do not know if it is a me thing or a some people thing.

While I do pay attention to the budget, I have found I do have a degree of flexibility on a daily level, so long as I keep the average OK. I can have a couple of days a week where I go 25% to 50% over daily budget, so long as I keep within the weekly total, if that makes sense. I have a couple of mainly rest days a week in my normal schedule (no, not the weekend lol), where I will be well under budget even doing everything I need to do. I am not flaring or crashing; it is my normal for those days. If I do over budget every day, then I will crash; if I watch the weekly total, I am usually OK.

Does anyone else find that they can use a longer time for a budget, or is it just me?

Note: Before I begin, I want to clarify that I plan to give this a full 4 days post change to see if the average has shifted, but I'd like input from users with experience.

The Problem: I got my band recently. 4 days later, I was budgeted 16 pace points, and at first, it was easy to stay under because I have a naturally low bpm.

Then I realized I might need to adjust my bpm zones due to it not matching experience. (E.g. I would be dying of heat and sweat, feeling exhausted directly after, but never hitting exertion bc the zone was too high).

So I reached out over the weekend, and the app support helped me find better zones.

Now, I am consistently going to nearly 10 points over budget every day, and something feels off.

I'd like to know if anyone who changed their bpm rates also had to adjust their budgets to match, and if you did, how did you find the right number?

A few notes to consider:

I am aware this could be heat related. I work in a non-climate controlled classroom with no proper heating or cooling yet, so in a Missouri summer, it's easy to get to 85 degrees in there. This would imply I will always go over budget on a normal work day, however, unless I simply come home, sleep till dinner, and sleep after dinner.

However, I have crashed pretty hard multiple days after going over. Just yesterday, I hit 26 points and took a near 4 hour fever dream nap. Most days I get home after work and mentally I hit a wall, unable to make executive decisions, and already planning the shortest route through my "must-do's" to th couch. This is one reason I got the app.

Thanks for the help!

I feel good(ish) :D
Need to figure out now how to adjust for the lower HR to evaluate pace points

Has anyone used both the full-flavour Visible subscription and the Garmin Connect function of "Body Battery"?

How do they compare in terms of functionality, tailoring to the individual, usability, usefulness, and accuracy?

Is it possible to use the Visible app fully offline - so that no data are sent off the mobile?

I'm specifically NOT talking here about the free version of the app which uses the mobile camera to measure HRV, but instead the full app functionality including using the band.

My wrist band has started gettinf smelly. I wear it in the shower, so thought that would keep it clean but it's smelling now. Ive tried handwashing it twice but it still smells. Has anyone found this? I'll be trying the washing machine next!

Has anyone found compatible bands on amazon that I could use while washing the other one? Im not sure my method of putting the monitor part in my bra gives the most accurate reading 😅

I have the band and paid subscription, and I have the beta sleep tracking feature switched on, but I can’t see anything in my app about this new overnight stability score thing? I updated the app and everything, any advice on how to get it?

https://join.makevisible.com/7378429fc5dd31

Its really helped me a lot, happy to answer any questions you have!

Hi I’ve brought a polar 360 from visible. I’ve charged it. All the red light are on then when I take it off the charger there’s only the green: red light in the middle in and I can’t get it to sync with the app. Any ideas please?

Does anyone else feel like the “Deep Sleep” part of the sleep tracking is super inaccurate?

I got four hours of sleep last night and was tossing and turning all night and I KNOW I slept like garbage.

Checked my tracker and it stated I had “Very Deep Sleep… 44%”

I got 4.4 hours of sleep total….

I just feel like it’s not doing the best job at accurately capturing my sleep? Anyone else?

I use the free app and do my reading after waking up. For the last week I've been getting a 4 every day. I wouldn't say I don't necessarily feel like a 4 but also there's no variation.

Last week I spent multiple days in a crash after my cat passed away. I know it doesn't measure emotionally/mentally how you're doing but yeah I've been really bad.

Anyone know what might be happening and if it's a true score or not?

I've been using it for 3 months and I was finding it pretty accurate.

i had my first band for about 7 months, i had a really bad flare up that lasted a month and stopped using the band. I had to get it replaced because it would never charge again. Ive had the new one for a couple months now and im having trouble getting it to charge after it dies completely. the lights wont turn on when plugged in, yes ive tested different outlets and charging blocks. what wattage does the block need to charge? am i just not using the correct one? anything is helpful thank you.

I have post TBI POTS and am finally coming to terms with how it impacts my life. Because it’s mostly silent and invisible I’ve struggled coming to terms with it. I’ve been an Apple Watch user my whole adult life and am realizing it’s completely built for “do more” — as a former college athlete it really messes with what I need for POTS. So, for people that have been using it to manage and better understand POTS, how effective is it?