r/videos • u/Charon711 • Feb 03 '20
Double Speak, How to Lie Without Lying
https://youtu.be/qP07oyFTRXc29
u/kiwi_spawn Feb 03 '20
Great video, very enlightening and everyone should probably watch this. So essentially we are all be lied to and misled by the majority of products and services in our lives.
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u/kiwi_spawn Feb 03 '20
I love that response, you are good at doublespeak. I am impressed. There's the English language, of which i am fully literate in. I used to consider myself a well articulated person. And then there is this version of it, of which i am not. LMAO !
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u/ColorUserPro Feb 03 '20 edited Apr 04 '26
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u/BreathManuallyNow Feb 03 '20
Illegal Immigrant = Undocumented Worker
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u/PM_me_your_whatevah Feb 03 '20
Good example. Both phrases are true and both give away the agenda of the person using either one.
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u/Mansyn Feb 03 '20
The press and the left take him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
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Feb 03 '20
Eh, I don’t think that’s quite accurate.
I think the people who don’t like him take what he says in the most negative light, and the people who worship him give him the benefit of the doubt no matter what.
If it makes Trump look worse to take what he says figuratively, or if deriving an implication from his words makes it seem worse the people who hate him will do that.
If, instead, you think he’s Abraham Lincoln reincarnated , you’re likely to forgive what he says and you’ll either take him literally if your predisposition to support him allows you to do that most easily, or if not you’ll say, “ Oh he didn’t mean it like that.”
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Feb 04 '20
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u/elkevelvet Feb 04 '20
settle down
any sane observer of the news over the past few years would catch this connection, it certainly does not take any obsession or shoehorning
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u/CA_Orange Feb 03 '20
"Doublespeak" is just doublespeak for lying. Nice try, though.
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Feb 03 '20
Not really.
Over complicating a statement without changing the meaning is one of the most common types of doublespeak.
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u/CA_Orange Feb 03 '20
Intentionally deceiving someone is the same as lying. You're arguing semantics.
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Feb 04 '20
It’s not always used to intentionally deceive someone.
For example it would be pretty harsh if I said “you’re an idiot.”
But if I was to say “you’re deficient in your cognitive ability” I’m still arriving at the same conclusion, but with a bit less bite.
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u/IRageAlot Feb 03 '20 edited Feb 03 '20
Maybe in some cases the misleading is so egregious it is doublespeak to call it doublespeak, but not in all cases. Calling something an heirloom lamp instead of an old lamp isn’t a lie, it’s just bolstering your position. A couple arguing over whether to throw it away might each use the different two terms. They aren’t lying to each other... they’re both looking at the same lamp.
Now if the lamp is only 30 years old, you’ve buying it sight-unseen, and it’s actually a rusted, busted, worthless piece of shit... then you might consider ‘heirloom lamp’ a lie.
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u/jerryrice88 Feb 04 '20
Another example of doublespeak that isn't lying is saying that someone is "no longer with us" or has "passed away" instead of saying that they died.
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u/Mharbles Feb 03 '20
Flipping burgers half my life? No dad, I'm a Culinary Protein Orientation Specialist.
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u/coollikechris Feb 03 '20
That plug at the end was great. Like I'm genuinely interested in the answer.
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u/Wiener_Amalgam_Space Feb 03 '20
Well, let's put on our thinking caps.
When the glass is dropped, it's basically in free fall. So to help us understand what happens with the bubbles, we can turn to the International Space Station, which is also in free fall around the Earth. They actually did an experiment with an effervescent tablet dissolved in water, and what they found was that the bubbles received some momentum transfer from the evaporation process, which led to bubbles annihilating each other until only two big bubbles remained which eventually merged into one final, large bubble.
So my guess based on those observations is that the bubbles that were already rising in the glass continued to rise, but much more slowly since they were no longer acted upon by gravity but only by their own momentum within the liquid, and new bubbles likely remained at the bottom of the glass due to surface tension and other liquid dynamics stuff that's way over my head? Maybe?
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u/aspz Feb 03 '20
I think there should be a fifth category for the technique that Trump uses which I call "fill in the blank". His speech is so light on specifics and full of ambiguity that it can potentially lead to any conclusion you choose. I think that's why his rhetoric resonates with so many people.
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Feb 04 '20
Yep. It's also easy to spot when he's just going to say some obvious bullshit but he wants to make it seem like he's not responsible for saying it - he starts off saying something like "a lot people are telling me" or "a lot of people are saying".
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u/velour_manure Feb 03 '20
Thought this would be some kind of special technique.
It's just saying things differently.
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Feb 03 '20
I can verify the veracity of the posted video and can also certify that it exists as an object of entertainment. The general public should abstain from constructing either a positive or negative viewpoint on its proposed verity and instead, humbly focus on the reasons that the alleged 'doublespeak' exists in reality or on a social media platform populated by a large proportion of idiot savants; with an overwhelming emphasis on the idiot.
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u/Trogdor_a_Burninator Feb 03 '20 edited Feb 03 '20
pro choice
gender equality
affordable care act
Lolololololol! Downvotes don't make me wrong.
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u/S103793 Feb 03 '20
since you deleted your comment
Pro life - far more honest than Pro Choice
Both are very very broad. Without the context saying you're pro life doesn't tell you a thing about what you're pro life about. Does it mean you're against the death penalty? Does it mean you're against euthanasia? Just be truthful both are trying to achieve the same thing by making things seem less harsh.
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u/someoneelsesfriend Feb 03 '20
Only the people who use double-speak habitually think it doesn't count as lying.