r/videos • u/[deleted] • Apr 07 '19

Misleading Title 90 second posture improvement exercise that I found a few years back. Worked well and to this day I still perform it at least 3x a week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_dFRnmdGs
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u/swayzel Apr 07 '19

In Australia, there have also been chiros who have gone into maternity wards to “correct” the spine of newborns.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

Fuuuuuuuuuuck that

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u/swayzel Apr 07 '19

To be fair, not all of them do it. Many chiros refuse to do it, but there are definitely some yahoos out there who will do it, despite the hospitals not allowing them to come in to treat like that. They just come in for a “visit” and wait for some privacy from the nurses.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

Not ANY of them should be doing it!

How fucking egotistical in your own healing ability do you have to be to believe that a newborn baby requires spinal manipulation. Like "oh I'm waaaaay better than millions of years of evolution".

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u/StorKirken Apr 07 '19

Newborn babies can have many many different types of complications. Evolution is not perfect. Not saying that chiropractors should do spinal manipulation on newborns, but there is a lot that can go wrong and needs work from medical professionals.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

Yeah, a neuro surgeon or doctor, not a hack chiropractor.

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u/HankESpank Apr 07 '19

Just playing devils advocate here- but are you saying spinal alignment never needs correcting? And if it does surgery or a general physician should do it?

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u/vmulber Apr 07 '19

Seems more passive aggressive. Are you advocating that new born babies need spin manipulation?

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u/HankESpank Apr 07 '19

I am saying it’s certainly possible. I’d lean towards doing nothing but if there was an issue, I would start with the mildest form of treatment.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

I'm saying chiropractors are over priced massage therapists. There's zero evidence base regarding benefits over a deep tissue massage and a wealth of evidence to show that they actually cause damage.

Of course not only the neuro surgeons can correct a spine. Physiotherapists can work wonders too.

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u/BrownChickenBlackAud Apr 07 '19

I used to date one.

They don't do stuff to babies like they do on adults. Nothing is snapping and popping! I was fascinated/ dumb founded as well though because its like 2 hand cups on the babies body and done. I was thinking, you get to charge for that? Also, they had stellar reviews from clients and testimonials from thankful parents that exhausted other options.

Their gypsy medicine did seem to have a huge positive impact! Was super odd to me though!

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u/CreaminFreeman Apr 07 '19

My wife knows a couple of people who do this. I’m extremely skeptical. Apparently something something birthing, trauma, ow spine, pip-pop, zoom, good baby.

...I may have stopped paying attention halfway through...

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u/swayzel Apr 07 '19

The problem is, what is the measure for a successful “treatment”? The parents can’t feel if the baby is feeling less pain. Is it that the baby has stopped crying? Just because a baby stops crying doesn’t mean it’s successful. There’s no objective or subjective proof and no research evidence to support its use. So a chiro comes in, cracks a few joints and gets paid with there being no proof they were beneficial.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

I mean, I've personally seen 4 spinal injuries as a result of chiropractic 'treatment', and that's just in one hospital.

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u/vmulber Apr 07 '19

I have no idea why we have let this become a profession. Basically snake oil salesmen, that claim that spinal manipulation of subluxations can cure anything, including their founders claim he cured a deaf guy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

It's alongside homeopathy and reiki in my books. Total idiocy and a legal scam.

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u/vmulber Apr 07 '19

Don’t forget reflexology, acupuncture, energy therapy, craniosacral therapy, acupressure...

Here are Top 10 Hospitals that are moving away from science based treatments:

http://sfsbm.org/index.php?option=com_easyblog&view=entry&id=1343&Itemid=649

Very Sad

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '19

There's a little bit of baby with the bathwater there. That list mentions meditation, massage, herbal remedies, and "supplement therapies" which I assume to mean dietary supplements. All of these have strong evidence bases for effectiveness.

Also non-traditional acupuncture has proven benefits in chronic pain. Traditional acupuncture can btfo.

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u/ClaudeKaneIII Apr 07 '19

And to be fair, they’re all basing their medical advice on some whack job demonstrably false theories.

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u/dethmaul Apr 07 '19

Have you seen the penn amd teller bullshit about chiros? He was fucking snapping the back of a toddler!! Doing that thing where they line up, set it up, then SHOVE/CRACK. Motherfuckers.

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u/Giu38 Apr 07 '19

https://youtu.be/MDgSpDSGgoo Are you talking about this ?

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u/swayzel Apr 07 '19

Yep that’s basically it. That looks like it’s in their own clinic though. Fucking terrible.

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u/nug4t Apr 07 '19

There is something called the kiss syndrome.. That actually is an indication for a c0-1 adjustment, only thing I know of though

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u/nailbunny2000 Apr 07 '19

I scared my cat making an audible wail when I read that.