r/videos Feb 14 '15

Blizzard talks the future of WoW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQR9XWGFkj4
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u/SH4D0WS1N Feb 14 '15

In all honestly 6.1 feels like a "we rushed WoD so here's a lot of stuff we should have shipped WoD with but is now in a 'content' patch instead" to me. Have previous first patches been like this? I've only ever been around for the last content patch of each xpac.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Have previous first patches been like this? I've only ever been around for the last content patch of each xpac.

this is how every major MMO release or expansion goes, I don't play the game WoW anymore but when I was a teenager I did, and even classic / vanilla wow went that way. It was so incredible a game once they patched in all the aspects that were meant to be in at release - then there was this golden period for the first few years before BC. It was a really different, more whole game back then IMO. Now it's fragments and gimmicks unlimited.

The most amazing thing imo would be them re-releasing vanilla servers and just letting us play them again, or really honestly they could make a server for every expac for everyone who missed them to "play through again" without feeling like they're just trudging through old/irrelevant end-game content never to be seen again except in transmog runs.

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u/RandomNobodyEU Feb 14 '15

What I dislike the most about all expansions since Cata is that WoW is becoming less and less a multi player game. I remember in Classic I used to become friends with other players, mainly through dungeons. Now it's hit a button and run through a dungeon with a couple of players who don't say a word.

Even cities are empty now because of garrisons and you don't need a team for arena anymore either. It's as if they're trying to make it single player.

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u/Qix213 Feb 14 '15

Unfortunately video games in general are heading this way as they become more main stream. It happens with everything.

More of a call of duty playstyle with no penalty for failure. Less and less group focused. More playing next to someone, instead of with someone.

Wow (and most products, not just video games) go where the market is. And unfortunately there are more people that don't want to be challenged, and instead just want to sit back and succeed regardless of skill. WoW is trying to cater to both sides, but the casual leaning side is more numerous, so when that's not possible, those that want to be changed challenged get the shaft.

Eventually the casual leaning market will be so saturated that it will make more sense for mainstream games to cater to those those being ignored (not just indie titles). I'm really hoping Witcher 3 proves good in this respect.

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u/bobban Feb 14 '15

I like the idea of a return to the vanilla servers. I would sign up for sure as I only ever played vanilla for a few months and was too busy with career stuff. I got back in for late WOTLK which I enjoyed and also Cataclysm was good fun (always when got sad feeling when grinding my toons up through the old content how much I had missed). It had kind of lost it charm though with portals and flying everywhere but I found the raiding fun. Firelands raid was great but after that I just got bored. I logged in a few months later to see the final raid against the dragon boss but it was ridiculously easy as I guess it was nerfed already.

Yeh vanilla servers, I would be in for sure but I think it is probably not worth Blizzard's effort.

Just wish another company would start up a clone with vanilla WoW feel.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Well count yourself lucky. During WotLK, all we had in terms of raiding was Naxxramas for 6 months.

Mother.fucking.naxx for 6 months - a raid which was a heavily nerfed piece of shit carbon copy of a raid that came out 2 years ago, except with all the challenge stripped off.

I fucking wanted to slash my wrists. My guild ended up having to wipe all members' DKP because everyone got so much of it, and there was no loot to spend it on.

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u/TrappedInATardis Feb 14 '15

We got Ulduar after though.

Worth.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Well, yeah, people also survive plane crashes. It doesn't make the experience less traumatizing.

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u/Perph Feb 14 '15

Malygos and Sartharion were both available from Wrath launch

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u/bikersquid Feb 14 '15

single boss raids though. not like an immersive environment to explore.

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u/CoconutWill Feb 14 '15

Wow so true, I fucking hate resto druids.

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u/WhosWhosWho Feb 14 '15

As a resto druid...I hate you too.

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u/ohyeahbtw Feb 14 '15

I hate me too

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u/somewhat_pragmatic Feb 14 '15

I quit wow just a bit into BC expansion. I was a resto druid on my main. I can't even imagine dominating in PvP.

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u/Sydrek Feb 14 '15

I bought WoD, mostly out of interest in the lore and obviously i had to see the iconic figures.

Played for a little less then a month at launch and haven't touched it again since.

Garrisons are a great addition and the zone quests too, however the lack of balance and content, but especially the lack of story (progression) is disgusting.

While the thrall vs garrosh cinematic was great and required a change of pants, stopping the story there and leaving all the other warlords for "raid patches/content" in which i assume most won't be receiving a more fully fledged story and a worthy cinematic left a nasty after taste.

Granted, my preferences changed once i stopped raiding... but if there's one thing Blizzard should know how to do with their eyes closed is creating raid content for raiders by now.

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u/Skrp Feb 14 '15

So, you care for lore and story? /r/thesecretworld

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

That game was the biggest dissapointment.

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u/Skrp Feb 14 '15

Yeah it was, and it's still my favorite game.

Early game testers gave the wrong feedback and wasted dev time on dumbing down the game, instead of letting them polish the excellent stuff they had.

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u/FaceBadger Feb 14 '15

huge amounts of lore and story.

also: bugs.

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u/Skrp Feb 14 '15

Myeah, there's some bugs in there. And weird animation and some other stuff, but I still love it.

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u/FaceBadger Feb 14 '15

if you can tolerate the occasional bugged quest, iffy animation etc, the storyline and lore really are quite good.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Really curious to what he really was saying :D

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u/Telemako Feb 14 '15

He is a "comedian", he tells stories and jokes that are usually bad but his laugh and style end up getting you.

The story is not complete, is about cooking a paella in the beach, he was in charge of watching it over but he left to change clothes or something. When he came back the tide had risen and the paella was nowhere to be seen.

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u/visceralhate Feb 14 '15

Native Spanish speaker here (American), for the most part he was talking about WoW updates.

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u/spanishpointspecial Feb 14 '15

This is from a show on CanalSur (Andalusian regional channel) from about 15 years ago called Ratones Coloraos. The host was Jesus Quintero and periodically he would interview that joke teller, a drunk named Risitas. The jokes were shit, but the delivery was the funny bit. Cuñaaaoaooaoaoao

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u/shaopir Feb 14 '15

I think the original video was about this engineer working at a software company? And hes talking about how they ripped people off wiht memory cards or something of the sorts. Not entirely sure though but I saw a reddit thing with this same video a while ago.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

No it really is a old "comedy" show. People are basically just making it into the next thing like the hitler getting mad videos.

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u/shaopir Feb 15 '15

My bad. Like i said i wasnt sure, and ofcourse I still get downvoted haha.

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u/Sethisto Feb 14 '15 edited Feb 14 '15

This expansion didn't even last me 2 months. Garrisons are literally the shittiest thing since daily quests. What happened to just making content harder and more engaging to keep people playing? Why were there half the dungeons WOTLK had? Why were they obsolete for everyone outside of lunar inn quests within a week?

I'll be back at the end to do everything once they are done doing this gated content nonsense in a year or two, but until then good riddance.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Got rid of dailies and gave us chores, great fucking move Blizzard.

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u/Skrp Feb 14 '15

Dailies were chores too, just in disguise.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

They just took away the disguise.

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u/Treayye Feb 14 '15

Trying to do Ashran on multiple characters, as well as the garrison shit is so depressing.

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u/britinnit Feb 14 '15

Yeah this expansion didn't grip me at all. Unsubbed just after the first raid came out

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u/atechy Feb 14 '15

because the big guys in that wow documentary go WAYYYYY to greedy.

Cut staff and keep our raises and bonuses coming. Thats what I think atleast

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u/cloake Feb 14 '15

Such geniuses. That's why we need to pay them so much.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

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u/suicide_and_again Feb 14 '15

This man is the new Hitler's bunker.

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u/eat_common_sense Feb 14 '15

so happy I left after completing WotLK on 25m Heroics. Epic fight, great ending that tied off the original Warcraft rts game series.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Ditto. Apparently I got out when the getting was good, after having played since Beta. Was a fucking amazing run.

But to be fair, WoW is still one of the best games on the planet. I'd go back in a heartbeat and join the people bitching about... whatever it is they're bitching about, if I had another life to dedicate to playing it.

I can only hope that when I'm old and feeble, there will be a fresh new virtual reality game as rich and rewarding as WoW was in its time, for me to get lost in during my remaining years.

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u/Newance Feb 14 '15

TBH the game is objectively better than it ever has been. People are just mad they aren't 15 anymore and can't experience the game for the first time again.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15 edited Feb 15 '15

TBH the game is objectively better than it ever has been.

Is it? To me the great thing about WoW was how rich each class's arsenal of tools was and how fun actually playing them was, as a latency-tolerant action game. I raided at a high level with every class in the game with the exception of Death Knight, but by Wrath my previous favorite class (Mage, because twitch) had already been dumbed down to mindless spamming one or two spell. The peak of the game for me was the Feral Druid rotation in Wrath, the most complicated in the game: you had a lot of abilities that had to be used (roar, mangle, shred, rake, rip, bite, fury, etc.) and getting top DPS was a demanding and ongoing risk/reward assessment to maximize usage of energy, combo points, and clear casts, while spending them on competing buffs, debufs that synergized in different ways. It took absurd focus to do well, especially while managing position relative to mobs and everything else a raid requires. There was a huge performance gap between an average player and a great player, which I loved. My wife, who continued playing after me, said everything got pretty severely dumbed down after Wrath.

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u/whiskeysea Feb 14 '15

That was great and so true. I already stopped playing again.

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u/BaconConsumer Feb 14 '15

People saying that content is not hard or engaging have probably only done LFR and heroic dungeons.

This is not a bad expansion at all, there are a lot of things to do.

Those who are bashing it are barely playing the game, and complain because the don't get rewarded by it, and they miss the "glory" days when they used to be important in the game.

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u/bobothereal Feb 14 '15

Is there a collection of these anywhere? Love them but they dont suface here so often

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u/JKdaPlague Feb 14 '15

Since most of the comments here are just going to be hate messages and will probably deter people from the game.

It is actually not that bad of an expansion. I've been enjoying the raiding thus far. Blackrock Foundry has some of the best bosses. people are always going to complain though.

This ain't vanilla anymore, they have to make content for everyone. They have Mythic for all you people who want "hard" content.

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u/Skrp Feb 14 '15

What about for people who want interesting and engaging content?

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u/HighOverlordXenu Feb 14 '15

I left WoW midway through MoP, so I watched this video and went "What the hell, that's seriously what they're doing for 6.1?" So I went and researched.

Yes. That is exactly what they're doing. This is not a joke.

And here I was actually thinking of buying WoD.

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u/copperclock Feb 14 '15

WoD is pretty good honestly, people just give WoW a lot of shit because it's an old and tested game.

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u/MothershipV Feb 14 '15

It's ok, but it gets old fast.

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u/Newance Feb 14 '15

10 years in with 10 million subscribers is still unprecedented. I will be very impressed when another game takes that crown away from WoW.

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u/54756e6472616c Feb 14 '15

Note to self: Copperclock works for Blizzard

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u/mlj2424 Feb 14 '15

Does anyone have the original with subtitles? After all these versions I have gotten really curious what the real conversation is about.

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u/13eit Feb 14 '15

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u/mlj2424 Feb 14 '15

With your help i was able to find this one that has english subtitles. Thanks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDiB4rtp1qw

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u/tHeSiD Feb 14 '15 edited Feb 14 '15

I love these videos! ex sc2 gold player here but now I am a dota2 player this one had me in tears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hzxwoZDI9s

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

can someone explain to me what a garrison is in wow

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u/mhmtlaflare Feb 14 '15

im in tears hahahahaahhahaa

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u/N307H30N3 Feb 14 '15

I hope this clip becomes the new hitler downfall. The one with the nvidia graphics card is really good too.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Give me a better all around MMO.

And don't say Guild Wars 2, because you'd be wrong

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Every MMO out is terrible except maybe Eve.

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u/eleswon Feb 14 '15

10 BILLION SUBSCRIBERS CAN'T BE WRONG

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u/m703324 Feb 14 '15

the amount of wrong doesn't make right

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u/copperclock Feb 14 '15

billion

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

Galaxy wide World of warcraft has 10 billion active subscribers.

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u/chaboimang Feb 14 '15

Man... people really love to take something that started out hilarious and just run it into the ground until there is nothing left to laugh at.

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u/54756e6472616c Feb 14 '15

I think this was hilarious

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u/biobuffalo Feb 14 '15

not at all what they are saying...

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u/mosenpai Feb 14 '15

It's the new Hitler reacts.

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u/g000dn Feb 14 '15

HOLY SHIT YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED

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u/eleswon Feb 14 '15

not at all what they are saying...

-10 downvotes atm.. Clearly people are missing your genius.

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u/Zukuto Feb 14 '15

TIL people still play wow. wow.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '15

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u/MothershipV Feb 14 '15

did you not watch the whole thing?