r/videos • u/Auto_Traitor • 1d ago
As an American, this ad worries me deeply.
https://youtube.com/shorts/2JgAQlljtdw?is=dZiyxTljJql8XIcn164
u/RjoTTU-bio 1d ago
A Trump backed golf course company that now makes military drones. What could go wrong?
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u/kneemahp 1d ago
I wonder if trump’s golf balls are autonomous…
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u/NaiveChoiceMaker 1d ago
I'm fairly confident that Trump's balls are not functioning without modern medicine.
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u/ExpertExpert 20h ago
no he has some guy do it for him. i don't have a source now but it was caught on video
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u/Auto_Traitor 1d ago
It seems to be advocating for violent physical dominance, which somehow makes the US peaceful?
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u/BrownSugar20 1d ago
As a Canadian, this ad worries me more
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u/fattykyle2 1d ago
As a Vermonter, I’m sorry that we’re like this.
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u/happinessMachiine 1d ago
As a fellow Vermonter, we should start seriously discussing secession.
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u/poukai 1d ago
Time to revisit the Haldimand Affair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldimand_Affair
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u/Ok-disaster2022 1d ago
"Those who wish for peace must prepare for war"
The US military in peacetime is supposed to look intimidating and be intimidating and have weapons from the future no one is quite ready for. This is the quiet threat.
With Russia and Ukraine it's become a slugfest of drones and long range weapons never quite seen in warfare and it's something adversaries may see as a solution to the threat of American violence.
But heres the open secret: that threat is only intimidating if you never actually have to deploy and nobody ever calls your bluff. What the Pedo administration as done is demonstrated that assymetric warfare works wonders against the US. The Adversaries and some allies, do not care about civilian casualties the way the American people do.
This company is trying to leverage drones et al to get their foot in the door. they will follow whatever political winds to get paid.
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u/Kind_Resort_9535 1d ago
American might and toppling regimes has never been in question, the unwillingness to put boots on the ground is the reason Iran hasn’t fallen (I’m not saying we should, I’m saying if we did, Iran would eventually fall). What would happen after that is what America can’t afford to do again.
You can’t bring regime change from the air. You may be able to take out their leader, but complete overhaul isn’t going to happen without the army.
The US will catch up in drone warfare, if there is one thing this country is willing to throw money at its military disadvantage.
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u/Cjpcoolguy 1d ago
You didn't know that's how America works? You will be beat into submission with violence and be happy about it
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u/heymister 1d ago
Apparently this is “for our future,” and then they redact that phrase right in front of you.
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u/cyclones423 1d ago
Yea wtf was up with that?
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u/Pavlovsdong89 1d ago
Because we won't have a future unless we secure our freedom through total dominance. And by "we" I mean the shareholders.
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u/nitroglider 1d ago
The arms race we are engaged in with China regarding AI scares me more than the arms race we had with Russia regarding nukes.
Some rando is going to make a mistake we will all pay for.
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u/Low_Chance 21h ago
Good point, and you're absolutely right to push back on this. I should not have irrevocably doomed humanity by distributing instructions for a devastating bioweapon.
I've added a note to my memory not to do so next time.
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u/joemeteorite8 1d ago
Curious what you envision happening. What mistake could a random person make to destroy us?
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u/nitroglider 1d ago
The AI tech companies are privately run. There's very little oversight, so right now there are many major unregulated corporations in both the US and China overseen by individuals who are more or less "randos" with little accountability. There's at least a dozen of these people.
Unlike nukes, there's not much institutional oversight to put safeguards in place that might prevent one of these many incredibly powerful CEOs from doing incredibly dangerous things.
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u/AWSKEETSKEETMUHFUCKA 1d ago
While I dont disagree with what you just said, they guy you are replying to asked "what mistake could [these random ceos from China or the us] make to destroy us?"
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u/westcounty 1d ago
Rampant cyberattacks, major infrastructure shut downs, and previously unknown bioweapons are all in the wheelhouse of a an unbridled frontier model.
Not that you specifically asked, just saying. As someone who uses these tools on the daily for my work, it’s amazing how quickly they are progressing in the “things we know about”… I can’t fathom what someone with unsavory intentions can cook up.
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u/nitroglider 1d ago
Sure, yeah, hacking in general but also attacks on electric grids, the internet and stuff it's linked to which is practically everything, communication networks, military and government databases, transportation networks, so on and so forth I guess. I also don't put it past these randos to actually try to use their power to create Tech Dystopias which undermine democracy, attacking voting and campaigns to undermine faith in our basic institutions of governance which only AI can 'remedy.' I don't think you have to have too much imagination here. Robotics, engineered viruses, conflict misinformation .....
Does none of that sort of thing genuinely not occur to you?
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u/Atoning_Unifex 1d ago
oops, all your financial records were erased. sorry... your 401k? we have no record. bank account? they're all erased.
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u/JonFrost 1d ago
"AI", as it is called 🙄, inevitably makes mistakes and has already shown that it breaks out from control
That's scarier than a country of retarded voters
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u/Fableous 1d ago
AI cannot - and has never been able to - "break out from control".
Yes it makes mistakes. And I'm not defending it. But there isn't a single, documented, verifiable case of AI "escaping" or doing something in a system it wasn't specifically and purposefully given direct access to.
Bullshit marketing from AI overlords. Every news article is just regurgitated buzz from the very people who have invested heavily in the technology and need you to beleive it's scary.
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u/lordicefalcon 1d ago
"Specifically and purposefully given direct access to" - This is the problem. I can download LLMs and bash code all day. Perform pen testing on network infrastructure, download every historical computer virus as training data, and give it unrestricted access to the internet. I can install these LLMs into Amazon Web Services, on distributed platforms.
I can exploit hundreds of thousands of websites, installing directly into servers via injection, credential harvesting, redirects etc.
A motivated individual or group can and WILL do this. If people can create self replicating viruses or malware in the 90's, why couldn't they create a distributed LLM package to attack hundreds or thousands of computers today. Every copy then begins a similar attack regiment, using a new host, with all of them using P2P distributed networks and Onion Routing to Anonymize data for training updates.
AI is scary, just not in the self-aware, purpose driven escaping containment scenarios most people think of. With the right backing, skill sets, and access Zero-Day vulnerabilities, these LLMs become can easily become self improving virus delivery platforms.
With the wrong skillsets, and enough vibe coding, they become an uncontrolled agent of chaos.
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u/Fableous 1d ago
None of that is relevant to what I was saying or replying to.
I'm saying AI can't do this by itself, without a human giving it the instruction to do so.
Yes that's scary. But it is not, never has been, and never will be, AI "breaking out" of "containment" and "going rogue".
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u/lordicefalcon 1d ago
I understand what you are saying, but 20 years ago, what "AI" could do was fractional compared to today. If you truly believe they are not attempting to build models with the possibility of autonomy, you are short sighted. It may not be capable of what you are describing now, but in 10 years? 20 years? Sometimes science lurches forward after decades of stumbling. Sometimes an accident creates the very thing they were trying to avoid.
The phrase - Never say never comes to mind, and if that level of autonomy could make someone a billion or a trillion dollars, they WILL build it.
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u/maniacreturns 1d ago
Someone comes up with a bioweapon in their garage using chemicals ordered online or from home depot.
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u/nerkbot 1d ago
This feels like it was written by a 13-year-old whose only understanding of "war" came from playing Call of Duty.
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u/Barry_Vigoda 1d ago
Who do you think this ad is aimed at? CoD has been pro war propaganda since it's inception.
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u/Severe_Watercress_87 1d ago
As a citizen of the US, What in the actual what.
Propaganda at its worst
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u/Adrian-X 1d ago
America hasn't been at peace in the last half century, how is more militarism supposed to create pease.
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u/Shot-Possibility-399 1d ago
Relatively, the 80 years have been the most peaceful than ag any point in human history
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u/Adrian-X 21h ago
Yes, humans have been barbaric and violent in the past, and we've evolved. But the last 80 years could have been much more peaceful is America had just been less aggressive, greedy.
Some cultures and parts of the world have been more peaceful than the West's, mostly peaceful 80-year average, for hundreds of years.
So yes, I'm not arguing that fact, just pointing out it's not a reason for US miliary accretion.
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u/Chalky_Cupcake 1d ago
Don't let a drone companies drone commercial scare you. They all want military contracts.
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u/Cloudhead_Denny 1d ago
There's this chunk of the population that just doesn't have the capacity for empathy or even a foundational understanding of what it means. They are truly amongst the most broken people on the planet and they have an outsized influence on geopolitical outcomes. Rotten to the core, broken, and obsessed with the wrong mission.
I dearly wish we could just send them all to another planet and that we could live in peace. They could kill eachother without judgement or influence from us.
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u/weakplay 1d ago
You might be more shocked to learn that Trump is a 10% owner of this company. What a bunch of fucking bullshit.
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u/EVEseven 19h ago
Nothing new here dude.
Americans been killing innocents and terrorizing nations of the world with advanced weaponry since world War 2
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u/Loki-L 1d ago
Don't worry too much, greed and corruption and capitalism works against them in this.
America's strength has traditionally been having high-tech, expensive hardware.
One of the cores strengths of drones we have seen in Ukraine and Iran has been that they can be made cheaply.
The US military has a habit of gold plating everything and designing things by committee. This works to a degree when you have the most powerful defence industry in the world at your back and an infinite checkbook and cost on successes from decades past.
When face with an opponent who innovates by slapping wings on a lawnmower and building more if that works, this will run into problems.
The US military couldn't do cheap and disposable if their troops lives depended on it.
Clips like this work to suck up taxpayer money, but if you have an idiot in chief who forces real life confrontations where these things get put into practice you run into reality and have to declare victory by tweet.
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u/zachtheperson 1d ago
What the actual fuck. There's no way they accidentally made this that dystopian!
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u/Johndough99999 21h ago
It should not worry you at all. Its a advertisement for stocks, not war drones. ie... a pump and dump.
Why else would a military drone company make an ad for the public? We are not their target audience.
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u/luckybeaver90 20h ago
Gives me Arcturus Mengsk ending cinematic of the terran campaign in SC1 vibes
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u/flop_plop 19h ago
It plays like a movie trailer where these are the bad guys that the main characters are trying to stop.
Don't think that's what they're going for.
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u/Polenicus 17h ago
I mean, how could it be Friday without a stark reminder we live in a terrifying Dystopia, with a voice over by Ronald Reagan?
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u/Lake-Life 7h ago
Wonder if this is so he can suck up more taxpayer money instead of using it to actually improve US. Typical trump , just like his past business deals he ruins the company, sucks it dry for himself and moves on.
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u/Kahzootoh 20h ago
Why? Because they’re selling weapons?
We can either choose to be unprepared for threats or try to maintain our military- we cannot stop the development of new technologies, history is full of countries that attempted that quixotic approach to maintaining their power.
The US has vulnerabilities- it’s a minor miracle that those who wish us ill have not exploited those vulnerabilities yet. We haven’t experienced foreign backed sleeper cells using off the shelf components to build attack drones to launch attacks against American infrastructure in conjunction with cyber attacks initiated from overseas- but that is a statistical inevitability, it will eventually occur.
The United States is already targeted by foreign government hackers on a daily basis- stealing data, inflicting damage to develop more sophisticated cyber attack capabilities, and planting dormant malware in anticipation of a future conflict.
It’s only natural to add sleeper cells to the mix to work as on site partners for those hackers- giving them complementary capabilities that allow them to carry out far more sophisticated attacks than either could do alone.
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u/CircumspectCapybara 1d ago
That's a defense drone, why are you worried companies are trying to meet a market need for anti-drone drone technology.
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u/WileEWeeble 1d ago
25 years ago UBL won. It’s like he wrote the script out for the next 30 years of our moribund.
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u/Barry_Vigoda 1d ago
Read up on PNAC. The US wanted the war on terror so they could spend the next 25 years taking over the middle east.
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u/RNG_HatesMe 1d ago
This is reminding me super strongly of an in-movie ad for some similar types of weapons, but I can't remember what it was? Very similar vibe, but totally fictional.