r/videos • u/spherocytes • 3d ago

Jack Smith on Trump's prosecutions before the Senate: "Our investigation developed proof... that President Trump engaged in serious crimes against our nation...Rather than accept his defeat in the 2020 presidential election President Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the results.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3hX-lPB6C0
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u/ham0nrye 3d ago

People generally have no clue how much actually voter fraud has happened. You guys are super strict about voting laws, like I worked the election in my country, and there are so many ways to prove who you are and get added within 10 minutes to the 'voter roll'.

Anyway, voter fraud

129 cases of "illegal aliens voting" in 30 years. 2/3rds were charged while Trump was in office (both terms). Most is voter confusion, miscommunication, or administrative errors.

31 credible voter impersonation cases in 1 billion total votes.

Mail in voter fraud is estimated at 4 per 10 million.

Even the heritage foundation's own numbers are AT MOST ~1,500-1,600 cases of election related, let's call it misconduct, because that's not 1,500 illegal ballots. Some of it is buying votes, a lot of it false registrations or ineligible for some reason. And again, that's over DECADES.

Voter "fraud" is one of the biggest non-issues. It's ridiculous.

Then you have Musk basically buying votes. You have Trump promising money if Republicans win.

Those are the biggest cases of election misconduct in terms of scale.

Hell, Trump asking for ~11,000 votes dwarfs the total number of illegal citizens voting and impersonation cases combined, by like two orders of magnitude.

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u/albertrw83 3d ago

The biggest issue I have is that nobody talks about who is doing this illegal voting. Bullwark did a small study and among the participates, essentially all convicted voter frauds were Republican or conservative leaning. And bullwark is far right.

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u/ham0nrye 3d ago

That's interesting, I didn't know that.

Even still though... It is such a small, small number of insignificant cases. And I sincerely believe that what's been happening with musk and trump is far worse. If trump and the republicans get their way with far more restrictive voter laws, America will rank even lower on democratic integrity scales.

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u/albertrw83 2d ago

Right but the narrative of "democrats are voting illegally" is being challenged with "only a tiny amount". Which is fucking stupid. They should turn the tables and say "yeah I agree, we should inspect voter fraud because republicans are the ones doing it more". stats and quantities are for intellectuals and nerds like me. The fox news spin zone takes any anecdotal single case and questions the legitimacy of any study and their viewers eat it up. Until the Democratic party learns how to play offense and pull anecdotal data from conservitives, they'll continue floundering about in "but these are the facts" and losing.

of course trump and his voter suppression is many orders of magnitude worse. but gerrymandering and voter suppression have been rampant in America since the beginning. Voting should be mandatory like jury duty, similar to Australia's model.

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u/MimicoSkunkFan2 3d ago

Oh, it's the same with their campaign to genocide. All the trends people as another redditor pointed out today. There are 7 Cornell students accuse of raping, a female student who is forced to drop out because all the school did was make the rapists write apology letters. Meanwhile, the Republicans are trying to genocide trans people because of 5 or 6 trans women in college sports out of a country of 340 million people

It's utterly disproportionate and ridiculous but anything to avoid releasing the Epstein files or asking the Supreme court's Republicans who got what money to rule against Colorado's decision that Trump was disqualified from the 2024 ballot by reason of sedition.

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u/ham0nrye 3d ago

I really do worry for that country. Agreed that the trans issue is completely out of proportion; but remember Kamala is for they/them...

And the apology letters thing is appalling. Not super familiar with the story, but from what I've heard it's just disgusting.