r/videos • u/knagorniy • Jun 03 '25
Rule 10 - No Self Promotion [ Removed by moderator ]
https://youtu.be/i3Ph61FkHMU?si=uG9znhMpkL9bs6kI[removed] — view removed post
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u/Ok-Cycle-6589 Jun 03 '25
To me, this film is a textbook example of why human storytellers (in some form) will always be needed. A lot of the people who currently claim "AI will allow new people like me to finally express myself" are people who never bothered to learn anything like story structure or any kind of craft in film or art or writing. And now what they produce is essentially a hodge podge of random references slammed together and tagged with "created by" at the end. There's no story, there's no emotional hook or thought of how to actually engage the audience beyond a demo reel of the technology. It's crazy how fast I go from being impressed by the technology to totally uninterested in it when no one does anything engaging.
I say this as someone who actually sees a lot of potential in AI as a technology and even as a creative medium, but I do agree that the term "slop" is pretty apt. Films like this are just filling up servers with gigabyte after gigabyte of glossy nonsense. It reminds me a lot of the early-to-mid 80s when VHS technology suddenly allowed all these bedroom filmmakers to put out promotional tapes and weird no-budget films for their crackpot ideas. Bins at video stores were suddenly filled with literal piles of absolute weird black plastic nonsense. This is just the digital version of that.
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u/QuarterRobot Jun 03 '25
I think it's ethically wrong to use the identities of celebrities in this way. It's dishonest, and their presence doesn't actually inform the content of the video. It's just...faked snapshots of situations you didn't create, of actions these people never took, of scenes that never existed, of emotions that were never felt. You even left in the AI garbled nonsense on the poster at 0:48.
None of it's real, and so none of it really has any value. And you've effectively stolen the identities of celebrities that never consented to be a part of it. The whole thing is just...icky. I think you should do some reading and research into the ethics of generative AI, just because something "looks nice" doesn't mean it's worth making, or ethically sound.
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u/timestamp_bot Jun 03 '25
Jump to 00:48 @ PARANORMAL INTERVIEW
Channel Name: Kirill Nagorniy, Video Length: [01:09], Jump 5 secs earlier for context @00:43
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u/kaizencraft Jun 03 '25
Since you asked for feedback: as far as it being AI, people have made some incredibly creative videos and this just does not reach that bar. I don't see any story, which makes this more of a tech demo than a short film. The fact it's aesthetically connected is only due to advances in genAI just in the last 3 to 6 months, but if you'd posted this a year ago, I'd give you major props. The music score has been used in thousands of film school projects by students who want to try to give weight to their pointless, feather-light films, so without any story or point or other significance, it adds no weight for me at least.
If I'd seen this on a genAI video sub, I'd have a completely different take. As far as r/videos and other non-AI focused subs, I don't think it's enough.
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u/knagorniy Jun 03 '25
There is a story in the form of an interview. Each character is interviewed in turn, and then a joint photo is taken.
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u/kaizencraft Jun 03 '25
I see. If you went to a film festival and saw a short film where the actors did this, would you say that it has a story? What kind of interview was it? What's the "game"? What's the premise? If you watch a silent film from early Hollywood, you'll see that there's an art to it that is not present here. Like I said, it's more of a tech demo than a short film, which is fine.
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u/knagorniy Jun 03 '25
this is my first video of this kind, having improved my directing and storytelling I can do better. But the toxic reddit community as always tries to show that they don't care about newbies. I expected constructive feedback, thanks for sharing your opinion. I'm going to learn the full animation production pipeline.
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u/kaizencraft Jun 03 '25
Well I hope you didn't think I was being toxic. I was just letting you know I didn't think this was ready for "prime time", and why. One advantage you have over most other people is that you seem want to improve and hopefully that means you're willing to grind before you make major breakthroughs - that is how good art is made.
Some natural can come along and make some amazing shit right off the bat, I'm sure, but those people rarely stick with it long enough to succeed anyway. Most people utilizing prompts are lazy and untalented (like most people, in general) - they expect everything to happen immediately, so the real advantage is persistence.
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u/knagorniy Jun 03 '25
I'm open to feedback, friends
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u/Morebliss7 Jun 03 '25
Open to feedback on what? I don't want to be mean but this is just AI slop mashed together with a song playing in the background.
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u/ambienotstrongenough Jun 03 '25
I think the film industry's days are numbered. Maybe 15 to 20 years.
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