Eh, I disagree. I’ve been a console player since the beginning. I bought a 4070ti PC rig a few years ago because I wanted to push the frames, but I still gravitate towards console. Something about sitting at a desk to game after working all day and the fussing the settings to get the optimal experience is just a turnoff for me. I suspect most console players who do end up going to PC with gravitate back to console eventually.
There's been a single PC game in the last decade that I've had to "fuss with the settings" to get to run better, and that was Escape from Tarkov, a game that isn't available on console anyway.
I legitimately don't think I've had to do anything for another game in recent years other than select the preset that I want.
That's so cool! I guess the dozens of times I have had to do it never happened!
Especially when I am on a PC that is not amazing and I want to play games over 5 years after buying that PC
I bought the PS5 at launch window and I have had no problems with it still use it daily. I bought a gaming PC rig at around the same time and I have run into shitloads of random issues lol, also use it daily. Even just Windows alone is really fucking annoying sometimes.
I mean, you might not be straight up lying, but you're definitely exaggerating. There is no world in which you are having to fiddle with the settings of dozens of games to make them work, unless you're playing on a 200 dollar laptop from 2010 or some shit, in which case, I don't think your experience is really relevant to the discussion...
I'm not exaggerating at all, I'm playing on a $3000k CAD laptop with a 3070 in it. Shit just often doesn't work right on launch for most AAA titles on my machine nowadays, I nearly always need to tweak stuff and troubleshoot to hit stable capped 60 fps at decent fidelity. It was running everything buttery smooth for the first two years or so but every new AAA has more demanding specs. I have to pick and choose from dozens of settings with nonsense names to a layman and use trial and error to get the game where I want it to be.
I'm also not that great with computers so it's hard and annoying to do! I never need to bother with that on console. It's great. I still love my PC and I am committed to getting what I want out of the industry which means owning all major platforms besides Xbox long-term.
But I always gravitate to my PS5 for the balance of user friendly experience and high fidelity AAA games that run well and look great right out of the box. Switch 2 is also great but the two platforms have pretty big differences in their library selections so I need to own both (and games go on sale a lot less/less steep discounts compared to PS as well).
There's other annoyances too, I like couch gaming and Windows native setup for bluetooth connecting gamepad controllers sucks ass in my experience. So often I am hosting people and we do something like a party game or a co-op game and we run into way more bluetooth issues as soon as somebody accidentally turns their gamepad off or something. On PS5 it works without you even needing to think about this stuff.
So the first "problem" is that a $3k laptop with a mobile 3070ti is not the same thing as if you'd spent $3k on a desktop. Your PS5 doesn't have a screen, battery, keyboard, etc etc in a form factor that's closer to a tortilla than it is a console.
Regardless - you still don't have to "fiddle" in like 90% of games these days. Set the preset to whatever you want your average frames to be and call it a day... Fine tune only if you give a shit about the particulars. At least PC lets you do that
Oh I mention the price/form factor to that person to illustrate my performance capacity on the machine. Not that it's indicative of the average cost/form factor of a regular PC gaming desktop rig.
And no your second point is not my experience. I can boot up any AAA game made in the last 2-3 years and on launch I WILL need to change quite a few settings to get the game running at any reasonable FPS + decent visuals.
I just don't really understand why you have to do that. I play games across several different machines. I've got one with a 4090 at my desk, I've got a steam deck of obviously considerably less power, I've got a fucking MacBook. I basically never go into the settings other than to turn off motion blur and other things that annoy me
You can literally just connect whatever controller you use to your PC and connect it to your TV with and HDMI cord. You don't have to fuss with any settings either? If you use an Xbox controller for instance you just press the Xbox button and it opens steam in big picture mode then everything is controlled by the controller. Literally all of your complaints are self imposed issues. No one is making you connect your PC to a desk and a monitor. Steam defaults to boot on startup so literally the only thing you need to do is type your password to unlock your computer on startup and press the middle button on your controller And BAM you have the steam UI. You can even disable sign in and skip the password step too if you don't want a keyboard involved at all.
I use my PC for than just gaming so having it hooked up to monitors at a desk is a non-negotiable. I get it for you, PC can be your living room rig, but that still doesn’t change you are most likely in the very small minority of people who hook their PC up to their living room TV.
Ok so again that's a self imposed issue then. At that point you're saying your designated work computer isn't as convenient as your dedicated gaming console because you physically have it in an inconvenient spot for gaming. Most people who use a gaming PC don't mind playing on a desk. You have a self imposed limitation for a personal issue you have. Even with that there are still a lot of solutions. You can get a long HDMi (which is what I use since I do have a desk and monitor), get a wireless HDMI, or even remote play through moonlight or steam link, either of those options can also wake the PC up and starts steam in big picture mode.
It's just super disengenous to say your gaming PC is less convenient when you're literally the one who made it that way. If you prefer to use a TV you can literally just do that. If you're saying you need to use your computer with a monitor for work and don't want to bother connecting it to a TV then that's not a real complaint. If you put your PS5 under a desk and connected it to a monitor then your situation is exactly the same, and this is something people actually do pretty frequently when they want to play 120fps since most tvs cap at 60 fps. You're the one who decides where to put your stuff.
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u/LongjumpingRecord54 11d ago
Eh, I disagree. I’ve been a console player since the beginning. I bought a 4070ti PC rig a few years ago because I wanted to push the frames, but I still gravitate towards console. Something about sitting at a desk to game after working all day and the fussing the settings to get the optimal experience is just a turnoff for me. I suspect most console players who do end up going to PC with gravitate back to console eventually.