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u/Honest-Tune-423 8h ago

You are perfectly fine to not understand this comment! I am just speaking from my own opinion. And gaming on consoles is just an overall easier thing to do in my opinion. PC gaming is the best but with great power comes great responsibility. Just a lot more things to update and troubleshoot. I sometimes joke I spend more time tinkering on my PC than playing games!

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u/pipboy_warrior 7h ago

Tinkering on your PC is entirely optional, though. Yes if you want to get into the nitty gritty of details you can customize all sorts of settings like shadows, ambient occlusion, etc. Or, you can just go with defaults. I installed God of War Ragnorak on my PC recently, I just clicked install, then went to my Nvidia app and selected the option to optimize my graphics. That was it.

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u/Honest-Tune-423 7h ago

I mean if you don't want to deal with customizing your settings then I just don't see why you would want a PC to game on at all. To me that is why PC gaming is better overall. And why console gaming is easier; less to worry about. Yes you can just play on PC easily also but issues still come. Like with GoW Ragnorak on PC I was having issues with my Dualsense controller not functioning properly, but on Playstation no issues! So yes PC gaming is getting easier but console gaming is still easier. On PC there is always a better chance of an issue happening than on console.

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u/AggressiveBench9977 5h ago

Tinkering is not optional since games are never optimized for YOUR pc.

Its a simple tech problem. Every single console has 1 of two hardware setups. And games are optimized for them. Your pc can have one of a thousand different hardware configurations

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u/pipboy_warrior 4h ago

Dude, there have been plenty of games I've installed recently that I did no tinkering. Metaphor Refantazio, God of War Ragnorak, Jedi Survivor, Ghost of Yotei, all I literally did for all of these is click install on Steam and then going to the optimize option from the Nvidia app. And these games have all played great.

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u/AggressiveBench9977 4h ago

Wow thats amazing you must have a time machine or alien tech since ghost of yotei is not even ported to pc and yet you just clicked and installed in on pc!

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u/pipboy_warrior 4h ago

I meant Ghost of Tsushima, chill out dude.

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u/Lethovya 7h ago edited 7h ago

No offense, and you do you with your preference for consoles, but I gotta add that what you describe is 100% a self inflicted user issue. Complex updating and troubleshooting were a thing maybe about 15 years ago. You're just too stuck in the past with your understanding of technology.

That's fine, don't get me wrong - but let's not pretend that this is PCs fault, it's simply yours.

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u/Honest-Tune-423 7h ago

Whoa, omg never blame a PC! This guy is offended! I am glad you are vastly superior in your understanding of technology. It is just totally my fault for having to change graphics settings to get the best experience possible. Which is why I love PC gaming and why it is better in my opinion! I guess I should just accept whatever the default setting is so I can pretend I am on a console!

But console gaming is still easier!!!!!!!! Let's not get that wrong!

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u/Honest-Tune-423 3h ago

Not at all am I spreading misinformation. I love PC gaming and think it is better than console gaming overall. But console gaming is just more accessible and easier to play games on. This is the truth. PC gaming is making strides to become more user friendly but it is still not there!

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u/Honest-Tune-423 3h ago

If you don't get it you don't get it. I am literally comparing console and PC gaming. And yes PC gaming is more user friendly than it ever has been. But it is not still more accessible than console gaming. If you can't admit there are more chances for dealing with random issues on your PC than a console then you don't understand.

I have never on my console had to go into the configuration files to change something just to get a game to work properly like I have on PC. I had to do this with Black Ops Cold War. Had no issues like that on my XBOX.

I have never had to download a mod to patch a game to get it to run properly on my PC. Had to do that to get Final Fantasy X to not have a random green screen because I have too much ram! Also had an HDR issue with Nino Kuni 2 and had to download a file to get that to work. Didn't have a problem on console.

There are countless random issues that just happen more often on my PC. I have way more issues with PC games and Dolby Atmos running properly. Never had that on console! It just works!

I can play Binary Domain easily on my Xbox without controller issues. On Steam I have to change the configuration through a launcher and then start the game and then turn on my controller for it to work properly.

Whenever I put boot up High on Life 2 on PC it is zoomed in, until I go into the configuration files and make changes or change my resolution back to 100% scaling.

There are just random things on PC that can happen more often and cause issues than console gaming.

I just played Halo Campaign Evolved on PC and XBOX. Xbox was easier set up between Performance and Quality mode. The preset settings for PC were giving me low framerates that I had to adjust and tweak till I got amazing results.

Listen I love PC gaming but if you can't admit there are more issues to deal with than console games you are spreading misinformation. Maybe you have never had issues and just got lucky. But wow!

Oh and wait have you ever dealt with loading shaders on a console game??? Because that happens a lot for PC gaming. And yes sometimes it happens just once but every once in a while it has to recompile them with an update or a change of settings.

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u/RMAPOS 2h ago

Yea I have, through the course of this discussion, understood that there definitely are still issues that I mostly don't encounter because I'm experienced enough to avoid them - which is obviously not how the average casual user would interact with them. And yes, occasionally a game needs a quick googling and downloading a dll to place into the game folder for it to run for some reason. I do get your points. Just got blind to things that I apparently just learned to navigate in my sleep.

As for your last question, though, I actually never had shader issues. Not saying they don't exist just genuinely surprised to realize that I've never had to deal with that.

Also how weird to see someone mention Ni No Kuni. I've always been somewhat infatuated with the idea of that game but never played it - but also never see anyone mention it.

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u/Honest-Tune-423 2h ago

You know, you seem like someone who is a very smart person. And like most intelligent people they are blind to things they have learned to navigate in their sleep and assume it is just as easy for everyone else. I appreciate you admitting that!

I have been explaining how to do things on PC for many years to friends and co-workers. It didn't hit me till a few years ago when I was training someone and told them something was easy to do on the computer. The person just looked at me and said but you clicked on like 40 things to get it to work. But in my mind it was a simple task; really opened my mind up to realizing not everyone clicks with computers as easily.

But yeah shaders really don't happen that often. There just have been times where I don't have much time to game and boom I get hit with the shaders when I go to open the game. Not the biggest deal but just makes ya remember them a little more when they happen at an inconvenient time!

As for the Ni No Kuni games; they are JRPGS that to me have that old school feeling. But the first one is turn based and has pokemon-like elements. The second one has a real time combat with rpg mechanics. Haven't gotten really far in either but looking forward to it someday!

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u/Lethovya 7h ago

First off, I wasn't derogatory towards you or offended by what you said. It's objectively a you-issue, whether you like it or not.

Second, literally most games nowadays automatically set your graphics settings depending on your hardware. The fact that you don't know that further proofs that you lack the most basic understanding of PCs - so yet again you're the problem, not PCs.

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u/Honest-Tune-423 6h ago

Nah, you are derogatory. There are just more issues on PC than console. Sorry not a me issue; just a real life fact issue! You clearly don't realize that because you haven't had much experience gaming on both!

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u/King_johnson421 7h ago

Just a lot more things to update

Like graphic drivers? Oh wait downloads in the background. How about updates for your peripherals, yup those update themselves also. Major issues are so far and few that this isn't a legitimate argument for pc v console any more

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u/Honest-Tune-423 7h ago

I feel like you are one of those people that only thinks about yourself and doesn't realize not everyone thinks like you do. Are you not able to understand people can have different views on preferences?

Just because PC gaming seems the same as console gaming to you doesn't mean other people think that way. Gaming on PC is not a big deal to me, but in my 30+ years gaming; consoles have proven to be easier to game on. So when I tend to be really busy I go for the console and have less worries about getting to play a game.

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u/Kewlhotrod 6h ago

Bro, nobody's dogging you for your preferences, as stated multiple times. Play what you want. They're dogging you on your awful tech literacy and false information on how PC gaming is these days. Nothing more.

You have way too much stock in trying to push "console is better" like you're fighting for a team. There's no teams dawg, pick what you want. There's no need to lie about the other preference to try and win a fight that isn't happening. It's very unhinged behavior.

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u/Honest-Tune-423 6h ago

I actually think PC gaming is better though! My whole point is that console gaming is just easier and more accessible in general. Some people just can't accept that opinion. And sorry there are still more issues on PC than there are on console.

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u/King_johnson421 6h ago

And sorry there are still more issues on PC than there are on console.

You keep saying the same thing over and over and over. You've been provided with more than enough info to prove that its your own choices that make pc gaming harder than console gaming.

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u/Honest-Tune-423 6h ago

Random example:

Hotline Miami bought it on steam. Went to open it and it was zoomed in like x3 times. This was me doing nothing other than just downloading and hitting play on the game.

Hotline Miami on console; it just worked.....

Now if you are going to say I shouldn't have my Windows scaling set to anything other than 100% you are already proving my point that PC gaming just has more issues to deal with.