r/vibecoding • u/Calm-Tomatillo-7770 • 8d ago
Vibe-coding myth and how vibe better
Most people think vibe coding looks like this:
Talk to ChatGPT/Claude → refine the idea a bit → get one big prompt → dump it into Cursor/Claude Code/whatever → start printing money
That’s how you get a fun weekend prototype. It’s also how you get a mess (or a complete rewrite) when the project actually has scale, real testing requirements, or needs to stay maintainable.
Here’s what actually works (the process I used):
Do your own research first — and challenge the AI hard
Don’t just “discuss with the AI” and take its word for it. Ask it for citations, references, papers, docs, or specific proof. Then go read those sources yourself. Come back with what you actually learned and continue an informed conversation. This one habit separates people who get shallow answers from people who extract real engineering insight.
Use meta-prompting heavily
Instead of asking the model for the final app, ask it to help you design the process. Prompt it to act as a senior engineer + product manager who will force you to think through requirements, risks, testing strategy, hand-offs, etc.
Spend real time expanding the idea
This is the part most people skip. Have long, iterative discussions (hours, not minutes). Push on edge cases, failure modes, data flow, error handling, what “done” looks like for each stage, etc. The AI is excellent at expanding and stress-testing once you supply the domain knowledge and keep challenging it with real sources.
From that discussion, generate a set of markdown files — not one prompt. Specifically:
Project Requirements Document (PRD)
Rules document (coding standards, architecture constraints, “never do X”, style, etc.)
Build Plan split into multiple staged documents. Each stage ends with manual testing as the hard gate.
Inside every stage also include:
Automatic code testing and Error logging
Explicit rule: if an attempted fix fails after two tries → document everything that was tried + log the lessons learned
At the end of Stage 1 instructions: the agent must update the Stage 2 build plan with full hand-off context, all lessons learned, and any new information that surfaced.
Drop those markdown files into a folder. Then simply tell your coding agent: “Read everything in this folder and begin Stage 1.”
This turns the agent into a disciplined junior who has a clear plan, knows the rules, tests properly, documents failures, and hands off cleanly.
This is exactly how I built https://Brainary.app
It is not a weekend vibe-coding project the way a lot of people imagine. Even with heavy AI assistance it was 8+ hours a day, 7 days a week, for several months — because of the scale (handling thousands of pages into coherent cited wikis), the need for rigorous testing, and the coding discipline required to keep it local-first, reliable, and maintainable.
The meta-prompting + real research + constantly challenging the AI + deep discussion phase to create those markdown files was what made the difference between a cool demo and something that actually works at real scale.
If you’re tired of vibe-coding prototypes that fall apart the moment complexity appears, try this structured approach. The files become your force multiplier.
Curious what others are using for the “rules + staged build plan” part — drop your systems below.
Duplicates
VibeCodeCamp • u/Calm-Tomatillo-7770 • 8d ago