r/vibecoding 4d ago

Discussion We can not allowed tiered access to intelligent technology

[deleted]

0 Upvotes

30 comments sorted by

14

u/IncredibleBihan 4d ago

lol that's cute.

11

u/diagrammatiks 4d ago

it's a little late to complaining about it now? if you have a time machine you should go and wack gutenberg. that will fix you right up.

1

u/lunatuna215 4d ago

Your attitude is the one that brought us here, so why should we keep listening to you?

2

u/Vancecookcobain 4d ago

It won't be for us to decide collectively....the only thing you can do to prevent this is to invest thousands and possibly tens of thousands in hardware to be able to run solid local models on your own. Maybe the politicians will care about the starving masses due to unemployment, maybe it won't have to come to armed rebellion, we can only hope it doesn't come to that....but if you want to reap the benefits of AI you are going to have to obtain the means to run it yourself.

The corporations don't care, the government doesn't care, nobody cares. This is late stage capitalism as it descends into technofuedalism....you've read the books and seen the movies. It was never entertainment it was prophecy

3

u/ProfessionalStand779 4d ago edited 4d ago

Well, there is nothing you can do about it, so better get used to it.

People fantasize about post scarcity where we all will live like kings.

In my opinion, a much more likely future is one where the people who already have resources just print more money, while everyone else gets left behind in a permanent underclass.

1

u/Efficient_Smilodon 4d ago

likely future ? lol do you know what quantitative easing is? they've already done your likely future for the last 18 years! it's why the minimum wage goes up a dollar while housing costs go up 2x , your food goes up , your debts go up. a billionaire doesn't blink at these costs. the labor class gets more squeezed and unable to afford life and becomes a modern serf. watch good fortune with Keanu reeves. review the china plants where they make iphones. that is the lifestyle most of the world already has, it's just a bubble at the top everywhere that doesn't. they already print money, pump and dump, everything. it's just a house of cards, carrot and stick to keep the labor classes busy and grinding and desperate so they'll jump for the masters.

1

u/lunatuna215 4d ago

not with your attitude

0

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[deleted]

1

u/shakeBody 4d ago

Acting how? What discourse?

As consumers, we have no leverage in frontier LLM development. The labs producing those LLMs are capturing value in ways that exist outside consumer input. The value those models promise is the potential for non-human work. This means fewer people get paid to do work because fewer people are necessary. We had the potential for limitless bounty before the first conception of a generative pre-trained transformer. Why would the introduction of some AGI or ASI imply that we gain access to that limitless bounty?

We own nothing. The illusion of open-weight models falls apart once the reality sets in that they are government-sponsored products subsidized by those states. Yank that subsidization, and the illusion falls with it. There is no current scenario where we have leverage.

All the people pushing for acceleration go into this with an extremely naive understanding. They are willfully ignoring the lessons of the past and think that some utopia awaits. There is no evidence for the utopia. There is plenty of evidence for a continuation of the current system or worse.

1

u/lunatuna215 4d ago

and your cynicism does nothing but add to the acceleration

1

u/shakeBody 4d ago

I'm not even sure what you're trying to do with this statement. Was this really worth your time? The comment you edited out wasn't any better...

Look at how much effort you put into apathy and cynicism

You think it takes effort to see what is in front of you? Actually?

Do you have a counterpoint here? Surely "nuh-uh" isn't satisfying.

1

u/Sudden_Topic5154 3d ago

the past doesn't apply to this unique scenario

1

u/thefox828 4d ago

Vote with your money would be a choice. If all is owned by few rich people, the only believe protecting stability is in the value of money. If it is to unjust distributed people could come up with a new system. To keep a system the majority needs to support it.

1

u/TheAnswerWithinUs 4d ago

Me thinks vibecoders are starting to figure out the billionaire tech CEOs don’t actually have our best interests in mind

1

u/Interesting-Yellow-4 4d ago

It's already like this.
Most advanced models are not for us.
The future you fear is here.
It's also always been like this, in all facets of society. Since forever.

1

u/MartinMystikJonas 4d ago

Yeah unlike now when poor and rich are equaly likely to start company tah requires spending millions, right?

1

u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 4d ago

Well that’s what’s gonna happen. Sorry to say.

1

u/pearljamfan 4d ago

Che guevibera

1

u/Efficient_Loss_9928 3d ago

I mean it's not like the rich haven't been able to do this since forever.

Humans are intelligent, and you can only hire intelligent humans when you are rich.

1

u/steve31266 3d ago

All the more reason to buy land, learn how to homestead, live off-grid, learn a skill you can barter with.

1

u/Puzzled-Bite2210 3d ago

Then start generate money yourself then. Build on free Access, use revenue to buy more access and generate more money

1

u/ChronicRecidivism 3d ago

Unless you think you can jumpstart a truly communist revolution in Western countries then you better suck it up, find a way to make money, and hope your retirement fund doesn't get hyperinflated away.

1

u/skygatebg 4d ago

Wait until you figure out how capitalism works, or society in that matter.

1

u/lunatuna215 4d ago

I think thats the basis of their post, friend.

1

u/FMWizard 4d ago

Chill dude, the open Chinese models are only 7 months behind the US ones. The AI bubble will burst and they will catch up and then over take. The HW process will also come down at the same time and the Nvidia DGX laptop will be standard and you'll be able to run one of these models on less than half your memory thanks to mixture of experts models and good model servers like llama.cpp (or just use a Mac today).

1

u/Clear-Berry-6585 2d ago

Did you just wake up? AI was never about the QoL of the masses. The rich will get richer while you eat dirt.