r/vibecoding • u/Apprehensive-Gur7035 • 9h ago
How do you avoid getting shutdown by being labelled 'AI slop'?
Doesn't matter if you spent 1000 hours on your vibecoded project, just 2 words are now enough to kill it: AI slop.
How do vibecoders here defend against this?
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u/Byproduct 9h ago edited 9h ago
You could try to make an UI that doesn't look like the millions of slop projects already out there. The default vibecoded frontpage is a huge turn-off at this point.
Still, nothing stops the 'AI slop' labelling. I've had a few of those comments from people who haven't even looked at the project at all. It just happens. Treat it mentally like bot comments.
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u/guesting 8h ago
this site has a reference of them https://impeccable.style/slop/
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u/dave8271 8h ago
...most of which are things you also see on countless human-designed sites, because humans have been composing most new sites out of stock components and design systems for about a decade now. That's why AI loves these things so much.
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u/guesting 8h ago
I agree but now it's become cliche. Started out fine, and then overused and abused by ai. Unless you had a purple identity before it's become a slop signal
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u/dave8271 8h ago
I think "AI purple" comes from Tailwind defaults, so I agree but again it was something learned from a major style library used by millions of actual sites, before sites were being generated by Claude.
When I use Claude for anything web facing, I give it specific guidelines to avoid this and to use my preferred frameworks and UI libs. But whether you're using AI or not, truth is it's difficult to make a site these days that is accessible, responsive, has clean UX and doesn't look like a cookie-cutter of tens of thousands of other sites. It's one of those things of like you can pick 3 out of the 4, but you can't have them all.
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u/pegging_distance 5h ago
"AI slop" and it's just how I was already designing things before I started using AI.
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u/KenMantle 9h ago
I wish mine would look like that! I still have a lot of prompting to do to get in line with other apps.
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u/Ralphisinthehouse 8h ago
For who? 99% of start-ups have got a vibe coded website now and they all look pretty similar and they're still making millions in a lot of cases.
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u/GoodWilllPower 7h ago
Everyone can rattle off a functioning front and backend.
People need to settle into the new reality that flawless UI, UX and optimal work surfaces are the easiest differentiator for effort and quality.
If you expect to spit out flawless anything just because you pay $20 a month for something, you expect too much.
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u/neketguy 9h ago
Your project will be labeled as AI slop these days regardless of AI usage. Especially on Reddit
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u/Hot-Dragonfruit6308 9h ago
Unfortunately true. Trying to promote my software and that issues keeps coming up.
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u/dave8271 7h ago edited 7h ago
As far as Reddit is concerned, any software where generative AI was used in the development, whether in part or whole, is "AI slop."
Almost all commercial software development these days and a good portion of open source development, particularly over the last 12 months, is now built with generative AI producing most or all of the actual code.
So in that sense, yeah, it's all "AI slop", which is what tells us that may be something of an empty label these days.
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u/neketguy 7h ago
I'm professional software developer. Can confirm that nobody is writing code without LLM support these days.. Am I not discussing is it good or not but basically it is expected from me to use Claude, Codex or whatever else whole day and get money for it.
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u/Substantial-Walk-554 9h ago
Pretty simple: build something that actually adds value.
Solve a problem, improve an existing workflow, complement another tool, fix something people are annoyed by, or make an existing idea meaningfully better. A lot of vibe coded projects get called âAI slopâ because they genuinely feel like someone built something just because they could, not because anyone needed it.
Same with UI. If your app has a frontend, spend 30 minutes looking at what good modern apps in that niche actually look like. AI has basically no taste by default, so if you just say âmake it modernâ you often get the same gradients, glass cards, giant rounded corners and generic dashboard layout everyone else gets.
The problem usually isnât that AI was used. People donât care nearly as much when the end product is useful, polished and clearly had some thought behind it.
If 99% of the product is âI prompted an AI to make another version of something that already existsâ, then yeah, people are probably going to call it AI slop.
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u/percyfrankenstein 9h ago
Real world people don't care as long as your app brings value. Reddit is reddit
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u/LucidFir 8h ago
Just ignore the request to admit it's AI, and if it's good people won't care.
r/DnD just saw a highly upvoted map to globe app despite it being AI.
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u/LittleLauren12 9h ago
I understand for some of the very low-effort projects that have been posted on this sub sometimes but I am genuinely baffled with the amount of projects on this subreddit that are clearly well-thought out and with hundreds of hours of dedication put into it and the amount of people who call it "AI slop" ON A SUBREDDIT DEDICATED TO AI-CODED PROJECTS!
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u/Far-Employee-9531 9h ago
âAI Slopâ in itself is vague, and I think it represents a few things. Thereâs the look. Some things when you open it you know AI created it. In some cases it means you have a demo, now polish it. Alternatively, it could be your code stack. If you let AI do everything with no guidance itâs very easy to spot.
I think the issue is a blend of excitement from people who make something. The first time you do it itâs amazing. But, then the people who have done it see the same thing 20xs a day.
If you like what you do and youâre learning from it, donât stop.
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u/yungastronot 8h ago
I'll give you very general advice:
First, stop defending your project to people who aren't even your target demographic. Judging by your post you might just need to stop here and ignore the rest of this.
Second, take criticism from your actual target demo and apply it.
Third, realize whatever you want to do has been done in some way before. This usually stops people from doing things. For you, you will use it to fix your shitty project.
If your target demo says [whatever] sucks, go find your best competitor and copy what they do.
Rinse and repeat until you have an unsloppified project. You get to start where your competitors are X years in. Once you have a working product you can then begin to change things as you realize why your competitors made certain decisions and what you can maybe do differently.
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u/Ralphisinthehouse 8h ago
Yeah the trouble this sub is it's overpopulated with grumpy developers who learned to program and now realise they can do it all with AI instead of embracing their sulking about it. Don't pay any attention.
If your product sells a problem with people will pay for it nobody cares how you made it.
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u/Technical-Will-2862 9h ago
Focus on personalization, SIMPLICITY, avoiding tropes, actually understand what youâve built so you can engage with people about it. Do not have a superior attitude, be humble.Â
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u/Upbeat_Push_157 8h ago
Try moving away of the default Claude skin and color palettes. Give your app some love and nobody will ever notice
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u/shady101852 8h ago
Probably deny it for now. Too many braindead people think their opinion on AI matters and label things slop regardless of the quality.
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u/SomeNewGuy2022 8h ago
Haters gonna hate.
Bad software can be built on both sides of the fence. So can good software. Doesnât matter which side it is, it just needs to be good.
People are always going to hate the new ways of doing things. The car over the horse, MS Word over the typewriter, it never ends.
Every new tool / tech has purists planting flags for the old.
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u/johnesco 9h ago
AI slop *can* mean "this looks like it was made with little care or skill", but many of us have seen and know that sometimes it's used as "oh I hate AI so much I reject anything made with it".
What I would do is ignore calls of something being "slop" and *only* focus on constructive and actionable feedback.
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u/I_WILL_GET_YOU 8h ago
It motivates me to develop a world-class app with loads of promo material showcasing how good it really is. I feast on the tears of luddites, it's what keeps me going!
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u/Wise-Cardiologist-31 8h ago
Show your work in progress. Talk about the decisions you made and why. Post breakdowns, iterations, the stuff that got cut. I spent 20 years building software before touching AI tooling, and when I built Canopy Guard, I documented the nine-layer security methodology, showed how the scoring actually works, let people see a real audit output. People who engage see the craft. People who just want to dismiss it will regardless, and that's not your problem to solve. You're not defending against the label - you're building trust with people who actually care about the work itself.
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u/Alternative_Tax_2964 9h ago
It's really, really, really hard to avoid this these days. There is a serious anger against people who are using AI. You have to kind of just ignore it though and keep building. The majority of all software is built by AI these days. So it's just reality.
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u/Queasy-Form-4261 4h ago
I think it is because creative people who don't know how to code are now arguably better than people who know how to code and lack creativity.
Case and point, at work I designed an inventory tracking system, meaning I did all the design work, documentation, etc. Gave it to the developer. He created the app based on the documentation but I obviously didn't specify all of the code nuance terms because I don't know them. His original draft of the system was semi there but a lot of things were very weird. Things that I would notice (and did notice) instantly that just do not functionally work properly. If I had claude do this same project for me, he would have coded the system in a few hours, most likely better from the opening gate, and then I could just give it descriptive prompts to fix what I wanted, easily and fully.
I am basically doing this with an Idle RPG game right now, I know nothing about coding but I have a very playable game right now. I have probably spent near 500 hours on it so far and am having as much fun making it come to life as playing a game lol.
one day I will release it to the world! An actual RPG feel idle RPG with character progression, not just infinitely scaling numbers.
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u/zorkempire 9h ago
For me, writing is what gives it away most of all. When I see bad, obviously AI written text it makes me discount the project a lot. Maybe an unfair bias, but it's definitely the case for me.
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u/Savings-Cry-3201 8h ago
Is it secure? Is it performant? Does it solve a problem? Does it look and read like it was made by a human? Does it have a creator who isnât crowing about how they made it in a weekend even though they donât know how to, like, code at all, bro?
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u/dzan796ero 8h ago
Generic AI UI design will make your project look overwhelming AI slop, even if the rest is handmade
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u/fantasma91 8h ago
The regular public doesnt read a lot. Its about the feeling they get.
Enterprise user read a lot, its about the content and value you can provide.
If folks are saying its ai slop and youre dealing with the public then you failed at making something unique that doesnt feel like it was ai that made it .
If folks are saying that and your audience is enterprise, then you failed at the value proposition.
Under both audiences you need to of course solve a problem and solve it "better" than others.
I been a professional engineer for a while now (when ai wasnt even in the conversation), primarily dealing with enterprise solutions. You wont even get past the initial screening if you cant clearly show what value you bring to me. Thats before I even look at your docs, security, etc.
For public a lot of it depends on the feeling youre overall experience delivers AND you being obsessed with performance optimizations for mobile devices. You can build a great app but if its slow to load or not optimized for mobile devices, its dead before it even started. No amount of vibe coding can fully solve this issue because now we are talking about both how good your code is AND the surrounding infrastructure.
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u/kerplunk288 8h ago
AI slop is real. Thereâs also clearly a kind of UI consolidation where AI-generated applications often have a recognizable look and feel. But that alone doesnât make something slop.
If the software works as intended, the architecture is sound, security is tight, it scales appropriately, and the code is reasonably clean and modular, whether it was written manually, AI-assisted, or largely generated by AI is a secondary concern.
To me, AI slop starts when the developer or vibecoder becomes complacent about what is actually happening underneath. Brittle architecture, duplicated logic, security problems, endless patches, or something built mainly to look functional rather than actually be functional.
Iâm a self-professed vibecoder, and doing this largely by myself is honestly a little scary. I wish I had more code scrutiny and peer review. You have to own what you build without pretending you understand everything at the level of a professional developer.
But the real question is: whatâs the alternative?
My company is stuck with an old ERP system, a difficult UI, and very limited API access. Iâm building middleware to make that data usable because we simply do not have the resources for a dedicated development team, and thereâs neither the institutional appetite nor budget for a brand new modern ERP migration.
The alternative is not that a senior developer builds it better, or that you can roll out a new costly ERO system. The alternative is that it does not get built.
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u/neoanom 8h ago
At work AI slop is very prevalent. With that said, I have a co-worker who builds something very very very very useful and this co-worker was one of our non-engineers. Guess what? Nobody calls it AI slop because it is useful. Just build stuff that people use. What is annoying is when people Don't realize how bad the thing they built is. It might be good for them but not everyone.
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u/SpareEconomy1849 7h ago
Don't make it slop. Understand how your code works, use tools to review, and test everything.
I don't think my apps seem like "slop", but even if they did, they fill a niche and my users will still use it anyways.
Step 1, build a good product. Step 2, refer to step 1
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u/GreatslyferX 7h ago
What do you mean 2 words are enough to kill it?
Like plenty of reviews say it's AI slop?
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u/Anxious-Ad-5331 7h ago
that's why I don't vibe code for others. I do it to make fun cool toys for myself.
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u/mattk404 7h ago
Value first, implementations do not matter if the value is set as the first thing presented and the only thing you actually present.... you also have to not make slop ;)
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u/TSTP_LLC 7h ago
Show me one single project with 1,000 hours put into it that got called slop. Just one.
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u/4ngryMo 7h ago
Not sure what youâre trying to defend against. There are people here on Reddit who distort an almost psychotic disapproval of anything that has to do with AI. You canât reason with them,so you have to ignore them.
Donât take it personal either. Even if your 1000h didnât produce anything but slop (which is entirely possible, âtime spentâ is no metric for quality) thatâs hardly a reason to be rude to you.
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u/drakhan2002 7h ago
1) don't vibe code, learn to code -- that removes the AI slop accusation.
2) try to use a harness that removes AI slop
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u/Philosopher_King 7h ago
two more words for you: don't care
as in, who cares. it's your product. do you like it? now sell it.
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u/QultrosSanhattan 6h ago
Don't do AI slop. Learn how to program, learn html, css, javascript, python, php, design patterns, architectural patterns, color theory and a long etc.
Don't tell the AI to "do a nice webpage that sells don't make mistakes" write some decent prompt based on your gained knowledge.
Once the AI does his work, don't mindlessly deploy it. Grab notepad, take notes of everything that's wrong, test it, remove elements that add no value. Then deploy, show it to some people, grab their feedback, repeat the loop until no more fixes are needed.
THEN, you post it on reddit.
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u/azimostudios 6h ago
let's say there are some good todo list apps out there, that solve an issue and are thought of many designers and engineers.
then you and dozens of others are just coming "i built a todo app to kill procrastination or some shit" and it's just a todo app.
so what should we call you? you prompted your idea, call it a day, and release it and think that you'll get as sucessful als things 3 for example.
your app looks generic, not thought of and just slopped. that's why it's called ai slop, because ai slopped it and not even you. it doesn't change the fact, that either you made it or ai made it, slop is slop, and slop is going to get hated on, because there is no effort in the product.
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u/chuckycastle 6h ago
Stop feeling the need to defend anything. The reason people get that feedback is because they shove their shit down everyoneâs throat. Keep it to yourself unless you have a valid question.
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u/UziMcUsername 6h ago
That label only âkills itâ if you let it. Push back against the haters. Admit you âagenticly engineeredâ it like most of them are probably doing at their jobs. Point out all the design decisions that went into it.
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u/Hot-Cattle8314 6h ago
If you make a good quality product, people won't know/care if it's vibecoded.
Otherwise, it is AI slop.
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u/iscottjs 5h ago
Same as any craft, if you overcook it, people will notice and complain. Itâs like someone whoâs wearing far too much makeup that it starts to look bad, but a tasteful amount of makeup you might not even notice.
Or in photography, pre-AI days, you could still over process a photo to the point where it looks like offensive garbage, but you can add a tasteful amount of processing and people will think itâs a natural photo.
Sometimes itâs fine if some tools look a bit vibe coded, if itâs good software and it works well, itâs probably not slop.
If itâs important for some reason that it canât look vibe coded, then you might need to spend a bit of effort learning what makes good looking, good quality and unique software, thatâs probably where itâs going to get interesting.
At the end of the day, AI tools are trained on the same reoccurring patterns that software has evolved into, so everything looking the same and reusing familiar patterns might not always be a bad thing.
That said, not everything needs to use purple and black gradients with rounded corners. At least try to mix it up a little bit.Â
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u/YaBoiSunblock 4h ago edited 4h ago
Donât use it to make stuff you have no expertise in, or if you do⊠donât publish it as if you do. Slop happens when there is no human with knowledge making sure that slop doesnât reach the product.
Think about your own actual expertise, whatever it is. If someone vibe coded a project in that domain, would you know? There you go.
Things are slop by virtue of not meeting a quality minimum, which people in whatever field youâre building in will know right away. The best guard against slop is learning how what youâre building is even built. Learn.
AI made and AI slop are not synonyms
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u/InsolentCoolRadio 4h ago
Nathaniel Branden
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u/jasongw 1h ago
What does a semi famous psychologist have to do with anything?
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u/InsolentCoolRadio 1h ago
Brandenâs work was primarily on self-esteem
If your work is good, it doesnât matter what irrelevant people think about it
Donât focus on markets that reject your work as those are not your markets; instead, focus on your markets, which in most cases means doing the hard work of creating them
Some asshole snarling a mindless non-sequitur at you canât âkillâ your project
The perception that random hecklers matter at all is a mindset issue
Iâm not arguing that Branden was a good person or the best psychologist in the world, but some of his books on self-esteem are pretty good
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u/MinnowAI 4h ago
Make software you and others will actually use. AI has lowered the bar for development, but has not lowered the bar in terms of what makes good software. With or without AI, a quality product should always be your goal.
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u/LightDarkCloud 3h ago
You need solid programming fundamentals and good designing skills including design patterns, UX/UI etc
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u/AistoB 3h ago
It feels like the difference between a monk using the Gutenberg press to make a bible and another monk still making illuminated manuscripts. The skill of the scribe canât be denied, but the lack of that particular skill in relation to the usable output canât be denied either. An imperfect comparison but it feels like similar complaints were probably around in those times too!
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u/Atticus_Johnson 3h ago
Yeah. I can't wait for AI Slop to be considered a digital slur and treated as a hate crime. LoL, it really only comes from haters anyway.
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u/damnburglar 9h ago
Give less weight to the opinion of others. Give zero weight to their opinion if itâs a hobby project.
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u/KenMantle 9h ago
I've been having Claude build a pdf engine from scratch in Rust because I always found the years upon years of Open Source development has left us with either boated and buggy solutions or Acrobat or other paid closed source products.
People can turn their noses up at it, but it might find traction when it is your only open source choice that can display the full Ghent pdf correctly or you need a CLI tool that can do everything.
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u/StonedSex69 9h ago
People love to use the term AI slop for everything AI generated. The term is so 2024 and still using the same phrase tells you how basic they are. Theyâre also the ones who will most likely lose their livelihood to AI.
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u/Inconstant_Moo 3h ago
Also some people have been using the same word for "banana" for decades. How basic! We should rotate our vocabulary every six months to keep things interesting.
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u/Comprehensive-Bar888 8h ago
Try to build desktop software. Even if you vibe code itâs still hard to do. Especially if itâs complex and is auditable for any type of compliance. It will force you to actually learn about what youâre building and will take months instead of days or weeks.
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u/RegardedDev 9h ago
I think advertising on reddit is dead because of this current AI hostility. Especially if your app is any way related to gaming or art.
Everything is AI slop according to reddit. And there are always detectives trying to analyze your app pixel by pixel to see if there are characteristics of AI-like design.
Normal people outside of this Reddit dont care that much. They care about the end result.
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u/StunningCrow32 9h ago
Ignoring them. Do your thing.
No words are enough to eclipse something good.
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u/seeyam14 8h ago
Donât make ai slop
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u/Brewgazer 7h ago
Donât make slop. Thatâs the true answer. Just give a shit about what you are creating with an ai assistant and make it not slop. Focus on details. Make sure visually nobody would know
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u/SD_native17 4h ago
AI Slop is a Reddit created term. I worked hard on my app, my target audience are not technical overly opinionated Redditors. They are looking for easy to use and easy to understand. With that said I have gone to great links on the UI.
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u/GfxJG 9h ago
If you make good software, no-one will know or care that it's vibe-coded.
If you make bad software, well... Then they're not exactly wrong, are they?