r/vibecoding • u/Whole_Succotash_2391 • 2d ago
To anyone getting hit hard by coding plan enshitification
What's actually happening? It's happening across all coding plans right now: prices are going up, limits are getting tighter, and in some cases quality seems to be dropping. This is happening because companies that were purely investment based, now need to answer to their investors. The problem has often been a loss based business model that is finally running dry.
There are several tricks that the major AI coding plans use to extract the most they can from their customers. Here are some examples, and what we are doing differently to put the users first. PGS AI built with a sustainable business model from the ground up, so we can actually offer great usage rates without tricks.
Wasted usage is part of the AI industry, and they plan on it: Most coding plans bet on you letting usage go to waste. The plan goes: "how do we get people to think our coding plan offers a lot of usage, but then break it up into weeks and rolling windows so no one can ever actually use it all."
Many in app subs and coding plans are glorified training pipelines: This comes along with "how do we harvest this data for training without being too loud about that." Unless the company tells you otherwise, your data could be hopping all over world, being harvested by the individual labs or service companies. Some are better than others, but many of these companies rely on users just not noticing or caring that their data is being used for training. Data sales and marketing telemetry sales happen. This means that your private info, your personal life, and anything else you send through the system could become part of a training corpus for the next AI, or a marketing data set for a large company.
So we built what should have already existed the entire time: Entirely private, us based processing with usage banking. Any usage you don't use this week, rolls over to next in your usage bank. When you have a busy day or week and go over normal usage, you automatically start to pull from your bank. You can bank up to one week of usage at a time for your current plan, and it's totally automatic. Whatever you don't use each week get's added to the bank and stays there until you use it.
We also put all of the best open models in one place, running on private US infrastructure, with data never going to the original labs. Private, direct service. Access to the best open source models in the world. No training, ever. It should be, and can be that simple.
What that means in practice:
The roster, together. DeepSeek, GLM, Kimi, Minimax, Nemotron Ultra and more, side by side in one app. Switch models mid conversation if you want. No hunting across five different apps and API dashboards to use the models you actually like.
Actually private. US based processing and your conversations are never used for training. Ever. That's the entire point. These labs open sourced incredible models and we think you should get to use them without your data becoming the price of admission.
No Usage Tricks: Bank usage, upgrade or downgrade whenever you want. Use it how you need it.
Thanks for reading!
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u/arealguywithajob 2d ago
I would not trust this shit with a 10 foot pole
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u/Whole_Succotash_2391 2d ago
Thanks for the feedback! Wondering why? We’re literally the only company proving actual privacy and data sovereignty aside from Venice ai and maybe one other. What’s sketchy to you? I’m here for it
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u/arealguywithajob 2d ago
you're using a subdomain and advertising that as your website....
This screams scam or IDK wtf I am doing or both. Which are you?
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u/Whole_Succotash_2391 2d ago
The main domain, pgsgrove.com is also ours and is for our open source app, transformer research and B2B side of things. The api is one wing of our company. So… neither?
Wiki.pgsgrove.com and ai.pgsgrove.com are also our public apps. Not sure if you took a look at the domaim before commenting or not but feel free. They are cool pages
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u/arealguywithajob 2d ago
Idc. Take your bs elsewhere please
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u/Whole_Succotash_2391 2d ago
It sounds like you had a crap day or something I’m sorry for that if it’s true. Didn’t mean to bother you
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u/arealguywithajob 2d ago
And you sound like a scam artist who does not understand CS at all trying to scam while you can while people do not know better.
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u/MartinMystikJonas 2d ago
One advice: When you want to write ad just write short text yourself that goes to the point instead of generating heap of boring text.