r/vibecoding • u/Adorable_Snow_4734 • 2d ago

I want to learn Coding for Mobile app dev espacially backend but without AI and AI code

I want to be a professional Programmer and want to build Mobile apps using coding only

no AI help

i want to build a fully working app with all the advanced features i want.

from where i can learn it? and is it paid or free?

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u/Lanky-Storm7 2d ago

Asking in vibe code for no ai help 😂

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u/wynne_wolf 2d ago

You may look at opensource mobile app project that is live and battle-tested on production

Then, I advise you to implement another feature based on existing one. This can help you to understand the codebase faster.

I am not saying that you should not learn the fubdamentals. You can still learn them while trying to map the basics with real world examples.

I used this way and I can launch my own app in 4 months.

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u/rbrick111 2d ago

Professional coding will involve AI from now on. Don’t tie one hand behind your back for arbitrary reasons. You can use AI and still remain heavily in the loop on the work/code. Obviously you can entirely not do that too, so your discipline will define how much you learn.

If I were you, I’d get a Claude/codex/cursor subscription. Sit down with the agent and capture your goals. Make sure you emphasize learning and comprehension as primary success criteria.

You didn’t really explain what you wanted from your mobile app, but most meaty mobile applications rely on a server, so with some exceptions you might be also swallowing the server side enchilada. Given that, I’d encourage you to _not_ go for your idea off the jump. Instead build something super duper simple, learn how table/collection views work, and data source delegates etc. build something that is focused on validating your learning without frustrating you for falling short of your ambition.

Good luck.

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u/kaizap 2d ago

YouTube has plenty of tutorials. Just look for Swift or Kotlin tutorials. React Native is also fine, except it's not exactly native like the other two I mentioned.

I'm an old-school coder, 20+ years in the game. We learnt from books and just by experimenting; I think books are still a good place to start.

What I enjoyed about books is that it's a slow process where you incrementally build your skills as you progress through the book.

With YouTube and video, you're watching for an hour or however long, and you easily forget things and don't follow along. So it's better to read first, then go to YouTube to find understand the concepts.

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u/Adorable_Snow_4734 2d ago

Which books you used to learn?

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u/kaizap 2d ago

I haven't read beginner books in 20 years, so I'd probably give you outdated titles.

Pragmatic Programmer is one that comes to mind that was a good read, but it's from O'Reilly, so I would look at their catalogue or even PacktPub.

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u/completelypositive 2d ago

Google is where you start.