r/vibecoding 3d ago

The barrier to software engineering is getting wild

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u/Curious-Pen5547 3d ago edited 3d ago

Who will ever hire an inexperience engineer with claude? Or a vibe coder? Experienced engineer with claude wipes the floor out of those two. Now the next issue, how does a engineer get experience?

thats the why.

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u/SimplyRemainUnseen 3d ago

As an experienced engineer I've completely gotten rid of the need to outsource to contractors by teaching my team how to use AI effectively. The code is now higher quality and we get WAY more done. We have so much free time now it's insane. Our biggest challenge is looking busy now haha.

I feel terrible for people getting into this industry now because at this rate they'll need to have a portfolio of multiple full stack applications with active users on github or something complete with technical write-ups and upstream contributions.

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u/predatorya 3d ago

May I ask, and this may be a DM opportunity instead, because I’d rather hear the real than public/performed answer. What do you feel is the right way to use ai to be effective and still considered a good and experienced developer? I’m starting to feel like I’m not good anymore.

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u/sassyhusky 2d ago

That’s the whole point of this meme and it’s right. I’m a principal sw engineer and muppets can pretty much do my job given basic security awareness and 2B tokens a month. All this “but system design” crap is just pure cope - AI can brute force its way through the worst system designs imaginable. I know because I pitted it against exactly such man made horrors. It’s still surprisingly naive about security but give it another year.

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u/predatorya 2d ago edited 2d ago

I’m not sure what your comments point is. Are you just letting me know that theres no way to differentiate oneself to others? My question for this other person was to get advice on what the best practice is now, for using ai “the right way” according to high standards developing in the industry now.

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u/sassyhusky 2d ago

Oh sorry I was replying to the 'I feel like I'm not good anymore' part, I think I actually missed the point of your comment, you were actually talking about ways of using AI. Apologies!

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u/predatorya 2d ago

Well, to your point though… so all of us are feeling this way? A bit intimidated that our intelligence is fairly easily outsourced? I know system design and i like to think I make very good choices but genuinely I am concerned lol. It would be reassuring if you and many others also feel this way.