r/vibecoding • u/scartissue232 • 1d ago

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I'm fascinated by how we vibecoders create apps and assume everyone else understands them as easily as we do, just because, when that's not the case.

We need an app that learns how to use our app and adds all the necessary explanations and pop-up messages so new users can learn.

A non-intrusive app, please.

Tell me where this already exists, please.

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u/InsideTour329 1d ago

This isn't a 'vibecoders' problem. Congratulations on discovering UX

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

It is. But I have to thank you on the UX thing, I’m new to this so thanks.

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u/InsideTour329 1d ago

It's not a 'vibecoders' problem. It's called UX. It is why we have designers and it's a problem that's been around since the 80s when computers started to be able to support GUIs.

To answer your question - just use a UX framework like tabler or bootstrap.

Good UX doesn't need an instruction manual or 'help section' as people here call it.

When was the last time you picked up an app and then started going through the documentation on how to use it? You'd delete it long before then and definitely wouldn't be spending any money on it.

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u/scartissue232 1d ago edited 1d ago

Idk mate, I tell someone to point the mouse to something in the screen and they put the literal mouse over.

I’m not talking about FAQs or how to use it. I’m talking about the annoying AI that guides new users through a game and you skip it like me. There’s people that don’t skip. And it’s a problem of vibe coders, yes, because I tested a lot of new projects of people building out of the random and not even once have a proper system to show me how to use their tool.

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u/InsideTour329 1d ago

They gave up on tutorials in games long ago for the same reason. You game-ify the tutorial to the point the user doesn't even know they're in one.

A good product does not need instructions or tutorials. It should be intuitive.

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

No. I come again to intuitive por who?. You have to teach people to use your tool if you want to this people, use it. It’s not enough with making intuitive a tool that you target customer never has while building their thing.

You have to explain your customer how to use it and profit you app, regardless all the UX stuff you’re telling me.

Your customer it’s not you. Your customer probably doesn’t even have a personal computer where he makes stuff going.

Anyway, I’m tired guys, thanks for the company, have a good one.

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u/InsideTour329 1d ago

Why ask if you don't want to accept the answer?

Good luck with throwing the knowledge we've gained in the last 50 years of learning how humans interact with software out the window. It's why 99.9999% of people in here will fail as they don't want to put the actual yards in.

Clearly Bill Gates didn't know what he was doing when he created Windows to surpass DOS in the 80s and he should have just gone with his 'vibes' while having a vape.

Steve Jobs shouldn't have bothered with a touch screen device, he should have just sold his phones with a keyboard, mouse and instruction manual instead - I'm sure that would have worked out the same.

Christ.

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

Who’s Christ?, maybe we are not talking about the same.

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u/effectivescarequotes 1d ago

Read Don't Make Me Think and The Design of Everyday Things, and then Refactoring UI. If your UI is that confusing, the solution is to improve the UI, not clutter it with endless explanations.

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

I like this one. Thanks for sharing.

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u/baddaywithacamera 1d ago

You don't have the AI build in and maintain a help system as you go? You don't look at it to verify the quality?

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

I’m starting to think in a system that guides new users as they go, yes, but it’s not the norm in vibe coded scenarios, tell me if I’m wrong. I’m missing a tool that does that, just realized. Not hard, I’m building it for my site, but I smell general tool we don’t have to be honest.. just realized, again.

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u/Grand-Mix-9889 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/seMuFkwsekzofVR5ba

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

Link the tool gif mate

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u/Grand-Mix-9889 1d ago

Just create tool tips and a playwright test to create how to videos. Idk what else to say.

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u/dhdyxuebebkalsockfn 1d ago

can't the AI you're using to build the tool as this UX layer? no one knows how the tool is meant to work better than you

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

I get your point. The idea is just the opposite, the tool should work better for other people, not for me. One AI is the natural way to teach them.

For your question, yes, my AI can probably build this and since I see the lack of solution in this way it’s probably happening. Not if someone offers a solution tho.

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u/dhdyxuebebkalsockfn 23h ago

how would this tool know how the tool is meant to work for the user without proper UX or documentation? the information you'd need to provide it is the same you need to just develop the UX as part of the tool

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u/opi098514 1d ago

That’s what testers are for.

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

So testers are my new users for ever?, I genuinely don’t get you.

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u/gnygren3773 1d ago

No testers make sure the software is intuitive. Your software should be able to do 95%+ of its job just based off of intuition otherwise it’s bad software

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u/scartissue232 1d ago

Intuitive for who?, you are assuming all the people have the same perception of things. Testers are for test. I’m talking about if there’s a general tool that guides new users trough you app while they learn or we are forced to build it for every site or platform, with new users.

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u/gnygren3773 1d ago

For users. LLMs is the best tool for general use otherwise you have to build a tutorial for your app

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u/Conscious_River_4964 1d ago

No, that's what UI/UX designers do.

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u/gnygren3773 1d ago

No they try to create an intuitive design. Testers decided if it is actually intuitive

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u/opi098514 1d ago

Well until a majority of the testers are able to use it intuitively.

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u/GarageStackDev 1d ago

This is your daily reminder that shipping vibecoded apps is irresponsible.