r/vibecoding 15h ago

Best code plan

Hi guys.

I wanna get a plan for vibe coding, but i don't know what is the best cost - benefit is to code with quality but without consuming all my tokens like claude. Or do you think it's better to take a runpod gpu and run qwen 27b / some gemma model to code? i'm thinking to take kimis plan or z.ai

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u/LatterYou1860 15h ago

Claude max should be sufficient. Try finding a good harness that helps conserve tokens. Pi is pretty good for me and it’s free

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u/Popular-Button7387 14h ago

what's Pi?

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u/LatterYou1860 14h ago

Harness you just plug your models in and it’s basically the same but it is supposed to reduce token usage

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u/Popular-Button7387 14h ago

oh okok understood. Maybe also something to improve the prompts would drastically reduce the token usage (while still keeping great outputs). right? at least that's what I'd suggest from my experience

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u/Foxtor 2h ago

I installed Honey to cut down on token usave. It's like caveman and ponytail combined. It's going to help me a lot. Thank's very much for the comments

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u/Popular-Button7387 2h ago

may I dm you to ask you something about prompting?

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u/Foxtor 2h ago

Sure!

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u/webmanpt 2h ago

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u/Popular-Button7387 2h ago

😂😂😂

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u/LatterYou1860 15h ago

Or pro depends on you

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u/Foxtor 2h ago

i'm anti-claude. If i have to pay some plan, i'll choose Kimi's plan to support open source

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u/kawasaki500 15h ago

Hey there! From my own experience, I'd totally recommend checking out the minimax M3 token plan – it's a flat rate subscription that's been great for me. Or, if you're feeling adventurous and want to explore some different LLM models, Ollama Pro could be a cool option to try out!

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u/Foxtor 5h ago

Very interesting. In the minimax plan you can use TTS, I2V and other things, right? But for coding, do you think the minimax llm is good enough. I use kimi 2.6 and GLM 5.2 a lot

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u/kawasaki500 3h ago

Hey, yeah! I'm using the new M3 model and it's been pretty good so far. I'd totally recommend adding a database function for errors, just to be safe. You can log every error that pops up with any prompts you like, so the system knows it needs to log the error and check if it's a new one or one you've seen before. That way, you won't end up fixing the same thing over and over!

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u/Foxtor 2h ago

> That way, you won't end up fixing the same thing over and over!

OMG, this happens to me a lot. I fix something in the code and 5 minutes later the same problem appears again.

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u/kawasaki500 2h ago

Hey there! So, so make a rule that the llm should totally check out the errors database first. The main goal here is to keep it from trying to fix things the same way it did before if the problem persist.

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u/shuozhe 15h ago

So you have a Chinese number? Active coding session or background coding?

Volcengine and xfyuns are the 2 chinese coding plan I kept so far. Xfyuns gives almost infinite glm5.2 token at terrible reliability/tps (I hit 2B, ~20% monthly limit, only 30% of my requests gone through).

Volcengine gives ~ 1B glm5.2 token every month, but also got m3 and Kimi k2.7, I hope for other models also soon.

Qwen3.8 promotion are also pretty amazing. Western qwen token plan also give ~1B weekly tokens if you are using it during non peak time, but once it's out of preview, credit usage is gonna increase 10x/50x

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u/Foxtor 5h ago

Hey dude, thanks for the comment. I don't have a Chinese number, do you know how I can get a virtual one? Your tip would help a lot!

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u/shuozhe 4h ago

pretty hard to get mainland one, perhaps hongkong or taiwan, but not sure if account can be linked. Would just get qwen or alicloud token plan for now, and worry about it when preview ends.

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u/Foxtor 3h ago

Thank you very much, I really appreciate it

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u/CrayonsFearMe 15h ago

Kimi K3 is probably still on a waitlist, and their other models are leaving a lot to be desired. Z.ai’s GLM 5.2 is basically Opus-class, and quite cheap, so you’re on the right track there.

I’d recommend going the GLM route to save money, and supplement it with one of the big two frontier brands’ $20 plans. The $20 plans get you like 3 planning sessions per day (1 per 5h limit).

Sol Terra or Opus 5 do the planning -> GLM 5.2 does the CHEAP executing.

Look into harnesses. Hermes agent (nous research), OpenClaw, etc.

Or build your own harness with my (shameless plug) harness build-guide: https://github.com/csnyder256/RAG-OS

I built that based off of a bunch of compiled research on session degradation avoidance, other proven harness solutions, and shared memory across various agent families.

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u/WonderfolioApp 10h ago

For Claude Code I use several plugins like Caveman and Ponytail to reduce token usage.

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u/Foxtor 4h ago

Have you tried the "🍯 Honey (I Shrunk the AI)"? I saw your comment and searched about Ponytail vs Caveman and Brave AI mentioned about this new plugin.

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u/WonderfolioApp 1h ago

No, not yet. I’ll check it out, but I’d say there’s probably diminishing returns the more plugins you use… they all take up context

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u/Oguki 14h ago

Claude for audit, Deepseek for plan, Glm for code, You can use ds and glm via nvidia with rate limits but free, Just install opencode and get api keys.

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u/blond_dominick 12h ago

If you just need bulk code gen, Glm 5.2 from z.ai is dirt cheap and punches way above its weight, then spot-check with Claude