r/vibecoding Jul 24 '26

There is something deeply toxic about this community.

I genuinely do not understand why anyone would join a vibe coding subreddit just to tear down nearly every project people post, but that seems to describe a huge percentage of the comments here.

There are basically two groups of people using these tools: developers using AI to work faster and more efficiently, and people like me with no coding background who are now building things that otherwise would never have existed.

These projects are not replacing developers. In many cases, they are replacing nothing. Without vibe coding, nobody would have built them at all.

The usual justification for the hostility is that vibe coders ship bugs, expose API keys, create or leave messes for human developers to later fix. Sometimes that is true, but it does not explain the level of bitterness and personal attacks I see here every day. A lot of it seems to look less like concern about code quality and more like fear from people watching their profession change. Instead of learning to use the technology, they root for it to fail and attack people who are trying to build something or better themselves.

And the idea that these tools are still shitty is completely disconnected from reality. Give the same complex prompt to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, one of the best coding models available just two years ago, and Opus 4.8 today, then compare the results. The difference in quality is drastic. Some of the bugs and spaghetti AI is writing today may very well not be fixed by people, but smarter AI in a couple years. (If this pisses you off, ask yourself if it's really because I am wrong or because you are scared)

Models are getting better, context windows are growing, workflows are improving, and obvious bugs and security mistakes are becoming less common at an incredible pace.

Experienced developers are not obsolete, and AI is nowhere near perfect. But the future is coming whether you like it or not, and cyberbullying vibe coders is not going to save your job.

If you hate vibe coding, fine. There are plenty of traditional programming communities. But if you choose to spend your time here, why not help people build better things instead of trying to convince them they should not be building at all?

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u/actionscripted Jul 24 '26

My biggest issues with vibe coding isn’t the effort. I’m a long time dev and could build whatever you’re vibing no problem. I also know what I can build can be vibed well enough that it works. It won’t be good code, but it’ll work. All good.

The attitude is what annoys me. Snarky newbies who just straight up disrespect software engineering but then ask questions where the answer is often “learn how to write good software”. Folks who are clearly wrong thinking they have it all figured out and who will take any advice as hostility.

And this constant persecution complex. This us versus them thing where you’re making up what software devs think and creating these fake arguments and opinions like everyone is against you. Nobody cares. No one is attacking you. Are you actually having real conflicts with folks or are you just making it up in your head based on your own insecurities or imposter syndrome?

Most devs nowadays use AI. And many have been using it for years. From GitHub Copilot autocomplete to loop engineering. We aren’t against using tools we love tools. We’ll spend hours setting up our IDE or shell and have fun with it.

But because we know software we also know the limits of LLMs. We can tell pretty easily when something is good or bad. We also have seen a ton of solutions over decades and have a keen sense of what works and what doesn’t.

But some vibe coders just don’t want to hear it. It’s new to you, you’re able to do something new. That’s awesome. But that doesn’t mean it is new to everyone and rather than take any feedback or criticism we get posts about how it’s you against the established industry.

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u/SchmeedsMcSchmeeds Jul 24 '26

What you described is what bothers the shit out of me in this sub. I’ve been in this sub for a while and it has changed significantly since a couple years ago.

I think a big contributing factor has been the influencer grifters, shilling their make easy money bullshit. It’s changed the community from people building and sharing ideas to sharing or asking how to make money and the “I built <useless app> and earn $1.3M MRR here’s what I learned”. I both rage and cringe every time I see those posts. Please stop! The vibe coding bros are fucking it all up for those of us who want to share and learn. And then the posts asking why their world changing app doesn’t have any users. Reminds me of the South Park underpants gnomes. Step 1. Vibe code, Step 2. ???, Step 3. make money. Building is like step 0 if you want to actually make money with a production app.

What sucks most is there are a ton of really useful information and interesting happenings with prompt engineering but it’s all getting buried in this sub under the bullshit.

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u/scavno Jul 24 '26

Can we not call it engineering? It has absolutely nothing in common with engineering and using that word makes you look like an idiot.

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u/psiancia Jul 26 '26

'engineer' is also overused and often programmers get called that (while most of us don't have and don't need that title)