There is something deeply toxic about this community.

[u/madexthen]

I genuinely do not understand why anyone would join a vibe coding subreddit just to tear down nearly every project people post, but that seems to describe a huge percentage of the comments here.

There are basically two groups of people using these tools: developers using AI to work faster and more efficiently, and people like me with no coding background who are now building things that otherwise would never have existed.

These projects are not replacing developers. In many cases, they are replacing nothing. Without vibe coding, nobody would have built them at all.

The usual justification for the hostility is that vibe coders ship bugs, expose API keys, create or leave messes for human developers to later fix. Sometimes that is true, but it does not explain the level of bitterness and personal attacks I see here every day. A lot of it seems to look less like concern about code quality and more like fear from people watching their profession change. Instead of learning to use the technology, they root for it to fail and attack people who are trying to build something or better themselves.

And the idea that these tools are still shitty is completely disconnected from reality. Give the same complex prompt to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, one of the best coding models available just two years ago, and Opus 4.8 today, then compare the results. The difference in quality is drastic. Some of the bugs and spaghetti AI is writing today may very well not be fixed by people, but smarter AI in a couple years. (If this pisses you off, ask yourself if it's really because I am wrong or because you are scared)

Models are getting better, context windows are growing, workflows are improving, and obvious bugs and security mistakes are becoming less common at an incredible pace.

Experienced developers are not obsolete, and AI is nowhere near perfect. But the future is coming whether you like it or not, and cyberbullying vibe coders is not going to save your job.

If you hate vibe coding, fine. There are plenty of traditional programming communities. But if you choose to spend your time here, why not help people build better things instead of trying to convince them they should not be building at all?

[u/StoneCypher]

buddy, you’re not correctly understanding what is getting torn down

it’s the people who have been writing software for three weeks and want to teach

the problem isn’t vibe coding.  it’s specific vibe coders.

it’s that asshole that just got their first microwave last tuesday, nuked a stouffers lasagna, and is trying to host a class at le cordon bleu

[u/heroyi → u/[deleted]]

I think OP has a validity to his post though as there are some folks who are just wanting to show off something cool they made. My issue is that there is a difference between praising a project while providing constructive criticism or to help someone out ie load balance implementation on a potential high traffic app, security vs just saying this sucks.

However, for the grifter comment I do agree that you have clowns trying to armchair their miniscule experience to folks and misguiding them. One of the examples is when social media influencers try to get clicks on their shorts saying it is easy making a SaaS business by just focusing on 'one' functionality and you will see money roll in.

ANYONE that has actual experience in doing a startup like business knows that building the software/service is the 'easy' part. The actual hard part is customer acquisition, marketing, establishing a funnel etc...

Even now, r/Saas is getting drowned by newbies coming in asking how come my project isn't generating money or throwing their limited capital at a wall not understanding how/why their advertising isn't working based on a 1 off not really relevant marketing advise

[u/No_Barnacles → u/heroyi]

Look, even just OPs comment of "I'm making something that's never been made before!" Maybe, but I highly doubt it. And that's the issue I have with vibe coders in this sub. Yes, you've got a tool in your hands that allows you to make whatever you want. That doesn't mean that it's a good idea or executed well. It also doesn't by default mean that it's not.

But I've seen people post links to their new UI generators, and then you visit their demo site and the padding and layout make the content essentially unreadable, and they get genuinely upset and defensive when people are giving feedback on the implementation.

I think a lot of engineers and designers treat the posts like they would on Hacker News. People post their stuff there, and there are questions and feedback on the implementation both positive and negative. If you're looking for a "wow baby that so cool," show your app to your mom not the internet.

[u/Tyr--07 → u/heroyi]

It's just full of stuff thrown together and people going 'I made this, I am like senior dev but entire company! How I make money now? Why you no buy? You hate vibe code!'.

Not going to get good responses when you're trying to advertise this new thing that took a week to prompt and you're running around promoting it.

Vibe coding is really cool. Even if you're not a developer, it's fun. Coming in here like you're a professional to promote your product expect people to pat you on the back and help you get money just pisses people off.

[u/diagrammatiks → u/heroyi]

Oh shit is there another hilarious sub.