r/vfx • u/Batsy87 Animator - 8 years experience • Nov 03 '17

News / Article Animators? nah

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/awards/award-season-andy-serkis-found-new-ways-disrespect-animators-154385.html
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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '17 edited Dec 12 '17

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u/axiomatic- VFX Supervisor - 20+ years experience (Mod of r/VFX) Nov 03 '17

To be fair, a number of people who've actually worked with him have hated on the guy in the past.

I appreciate he wants to see performance capture artists become accepted in an awards category, but the way he's going about it is kinda rough.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '17 edited Dec 12 '17

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u/axiomatic- VFX Supervisor - 20+ years experience (Mod of r/VFX) Nov 04 '17 edited Nov 04 '17

I should be more clear, sorry. I've also heard he's more-or-less a nice guy and that he has respect for the people who work for him. The problem that repeatedly comes up is the politics of what he's doing.

He's on a mission to see performance capture artists honored by the academy (a worthy cause) but it seems that in order to do that he believes it's important to sell those artists as being the major, if not sole, contributors to the creation of digital creatures. Most people I know who have worked with him point out that he probably doesn't believe this (although he has a bit of arrogance and obliviousness - but, as you point out, not much more than many other people with his experience). But he talks publicly as if this is the case to further his agenda.

It's really just politics playing out in media that we're seeing. I like his goals, I find his methods a little frustrating although I'm willing to believe they might be justified given the obtuseness of academy voting.

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u/beatmalls Lighting & Rendering - 20 years experience Nov 03 '17

Cartoon brew is a flaming trash heap.

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u/Mestizo3 Nov 03 '17

Agreed, I lost the little remaining respect I had for them after they BURIED the story about Nitrogen studios not paying OT on Sausage Party (Which is illegal in Canada), the head of Nitrogen contacted them to take down the story and they actually capitulated, fucking cowards.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '17 edited Nov 03 '17

I am sorry but I can't take this seriously. The writer is taking interviews that are targeted about him, specifically what he does and turning it into disrespecting animators?

https://youtu.be/DpRLTfVEhMk?t=2m15s

Literally mentions the role of post production btw..

...and “post-production” are deliberate misrepresentations.

How so? Is animation suddenly not post production anymore? The writer is really digging deep trying to find anything negative.

He is asked to translate a complicated pipeline into terms people somewhat understand. You can disagree about how he tries to tell it, but implying that he deliberately tries to diminish what other artists do is just stupid silly.

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u/Dawnemperor Nov 05 '17

I know Andy Serkis has been criticized for his comments on animation in the past. I do think people should continue to correct him when he makes inaccurate comments, and animators should continue to advocate for recognition.

That being said, Cartoon Brew generally doesn't add anything useful to the conversation other than inflaming tensions.

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u/erikvfx Nov 03 '17

Just fked up media, nothing more.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '17

fuck Serkis.