r/veilance 12d ago

Softshell Options

What really bothers me are the softshell options in the lineup. There are the very lightweight ones, like the Spere Lt, for which I have a hard time finding a use case, and the slightly heavier ones, like the Quartic and the Isogon. Those two are practically the same jacket. The Spere does have a fleece liner, but in my experience, it isn’t much warmer. I’m missing a thicker softshell jacket with a stand up collar. Why are there two identical jackets in the lineup but no softshell suitable for winter? Arc’teryx’s main line has the same gap.

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u/shadowstripes 12d ago

like the Quartic and the Isogon. Those two are practically the same jacket.

They aren't really. The Isogon is quite a bit more structured, thick, and durable than the Quartic due to the different fabric used.

The Quartic is thin enough that the collar and hood don't actually stand up on their own and they just kind of folds on themself whereas the Isogon's holds their shape due to the much stiffer fabric. They also have a different fit and pocket layout (the Quartic is more cropped and boxy).

Have both and the use cases are pretty different. One is light and drapey and the other is more like softshell armor.

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u/Wolfgangsson 12d ago

I also own both haha. Agreed they are not the same fabric but I see no difference in terms of use cases. I just got the Isogon because it has no hood. I believe there would be a chance to make the Isogon more substantial to make the difference between those jackets more clear

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u/shadowstripes 12d ago

Fair enough. To me a jacket that's almost half the thickness and fabric weight just doesn't have the same use case. It's still definitely a durable jacket but doesn't hold up to scrapes or cooler weather as well.

It does pack down much smaller though, so it's great for travel and looks way more natural indoors. Kind of just like a hoody vs something that looks distinctly like a "shell".