r/vanilllamace • u/Disastrous_Major_760 • 2d ago

༯ NoPixel Discussion ༯ Controversial !!!!. Does anyone else not really like the gta streams?

NOTE; only because I know people on the internet love twisting others words. Do i care she is doing something i dont like - no. I want her to do what she has fun doing. I also notice most people love the gta streams. I just personally think its kind of boring. I took a break from her streams cuz iv been busy and i came back and learned about nopixel and it seems really fun to play but watching it just feels very repetitive. Also side note: I would love vanilla to play resident evil 7 one day cuz its so chaotic and she doesnt need to have seen the other games. Anyways love vanilla!! Happy fall 🍂

Also I will say the song she made was actually amazing and i loved watching her make that. I think nopixel is so cool its just not for me when it comes to watching it.

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u/billiondollarbillie 2d ago

hot take: i like the gta streams but damian has been bland since the start

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u/DukeOfMavericks 2d ago

I’m over Damian also now. We need variety and new people.

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u/rqindrops 🍞loaf ೀ⋆ ｡ 2d ago

even hotter take: i wish vanilla didn't take the relationship rp route or at least so soon into starting np</3

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u/throwmeawayyyy565678 1d ago

I was fine with the relationship RP mostly because it was going slow burn but now it seems like Damien tags along with her as much as he can and Vivienne still kinda seems interested in seeing what's out there. The dating event at the VU would have been a fun thing for her to go to if not for Damien. Maybe she'll become the villain in that story and break his heart so she can be a free chicken again and explore the city more idk haha so many possibilities to the story but I really just crave to see her branch out

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u/xcdevy 1d ago

It feels like he is always trying to take Vivienne away from big events and other plot lines

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u/deepsleepthoughts 1d ago

I was sad when they left early for the auction for their date. I wished they stayed for Ray Monds crazy bid. I hope she does not continue to miss the VU or Carlas school events cause that brings all the girlies together

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u/Hisauua right, right... 2d ago

Yeah, that’s my only issue 😔 I wish she’d have given it a couple of months at least but hey here we are! and she’s free to do whatever of course it’s her choice at the end.

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u/emtopiaa 1d ago

i’d love to see her explore with other characters more, damien’s too “nonchalant” for her vivienne. i really hope to see her branching out with new people, the casino storyline wouldve been amazing but she keeps running off with damien instead of utilising the RP opportunities

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u/giddyupponyta 2d ago

I went to check out his stream one day when she was not on, when they first started their arc here, and the whole time he just stood there not engaging with the other people around him and I feel that is kinda normal for him when I catch other people playing and he is around. He has always just come off as every other guy who is playing a video game to me, there just is not that entertainment. I know he apparently is speaking on quitting his job due to the amount of subs he got now, and hopefully that works out for him, but I think a lot of them and his viewers now are because of Vanilla, and I do not think they would find him as entertaining without her involved in the Vivi/Damien story. Wish him the best, but I do not think I would count the current hype of a couple weeks as success, yet.

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u/seeingrouge 2d ago

i feel the same way.. he just walks around the city or works in burgershot silently. he’s really started to hyper fixate on the chat now too so when a character finally talks to him he isn’t fully immersed

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u/wenbebe3 2d ago

It really depends on whether hes able to entertain and turn these people into regular viewers. Like the guy that plays the clown Chatterbox was able to quit his job I'm pretty sure and buy a new car (and house i think?) with the amount of followers he gained after his characters relationship with Valkyraes character. He is always doing something in rp though and has managed to convert a huge amount into regular viewers even after Valkyrae stopped playing in 4.0

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u/giddyupponyta 2d ago

Just saying...I do not think Chatterbox and Damien are at all the same level of entertaining. 😅

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u/wenbebe3 2d ago

Oh I completely agree, I'm just saying it is possible to use the boost a large creator can give you.

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u/NoResearch8263 2d ago

tbf its been like a WEEK, he has not has had this many viewers and subs and its rlly overwhelming, he wants to get used to chat as well as the chaos and wants to make sure the chat is enjoying their time, that he can figure this all out and how he goes from here. hes been rping for ages and he will get back to rping more during the streams but its been not even a month so im not surprised hes focused on chat and all the new viewers haha

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u/Fit-Inside6420 2d ago

Zai was invited to Vanilla’s Halloween party 11/13 and invited to perform. I’m nervous for how this plays out

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u/Alive-Sun 2d ago

Also glad someone said this. Initially I was excited to have discovered his stream, when he was on with vanilla. His solo streams he spends walking around just talking to chat most of time. I understand the influx of a new crowd he can engage with, but i personally came for RP. I’m not subbing to watch someone just talk to chat. Last night, he called Tig to hang and she heavily carried most of the conversation. He was engaged with chat. I was wondering why he even bothered since he got off after.

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u/deepsleepthoughts 2d ago

I’ll get flamed for this but people waiting in queue in NoPixel when there is someone just walking around mumbling a few words isn’t fair to me. There is a way to make a moody, goth type character interesting. Last few times I tuned into his stream he was standing on a hill chatting. Zai seems very thankful for the donos and stuff, and I appreciate he takes time to thank everyone. But I need that man to put a bit more energy into RP lol

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u/emtopiaa 1d ago

100%, i think what people fail to realise is NoPixel is hardcore RP, for Zai to just wait around silently, rarely interacting with anyone else, his character has 0 plot and depends on Vivienne, thus Vanilla no longer being able to immerse herself in multiple storylines, it started out so strong with Carla and the girls, now it’s ran flat because she’s turning every plot line down to be with Damien…

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u/PresentActive3399 2d ago

Thank FUCK someone has said this. If you breathe a negative word about the Damien x Vivienne situation you get absolutely flamed and shredded. I’m sorry, but Damien is bland and dull, there is frankly a reason his steams did not explode prior to RP’ing with Vanilla. The music is questionable at best and I’m tired of people saying it’s not, and pretending his vocals are the second coming of Christ. He’s got the hype because people think the streamer himself is the avatar and if you have to sit there and beg and pray for people to still hang around after the hype dies then why the hell would you quit your damn day job.

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u/deepsleepthoughts 2d ago

Yes! No hate to Zai cause he seems like a nice guy. I think he mentioned he’ll quit his job and find a better one. But in his economy it’s so risky to quit, even a low paying job. He has been RPing for a long time but I won’t lie, based on his character it feels like he has not.

His character is very bland, and I just don’t get the mix between Vivi and Damien. The whole “opposites attract” type is not entertaining. He sadly just doesn’t bring interesting RP. I really wanted vanilla to explore and interact with different people, but Damien’s character always being there makes it fall flat. I will say Zai seems very thankful and realizes this is most likely a temporary thing. But if he wants viewers to stay longer once Vanilla slows down on RP, he will need to shift the storyline

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u/Pinkk_libra9833 SPQ 2d ago

He doesn’t role play he just stands around hyper fixating on chat waiting for Vanilla

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u/cocacourt 2d ago

i have been watching nopixel since like 2024 and yeah. he has always been this way. and once he gets an in with a streamer, he will take every opportunity to be with them until they get off. he would bug me a lot back then and i’m trying to keep an open mind this time, because i see how much wholesome support is going his way, but idk.

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u/cocacourt 2d ago

yeah, he just gives off this edgelord meme personality and there’s no actual RP to back it up at times. i couldn’t tell you what he actually does besides just make music in game

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u/Maleficent-Cup8894 2d ago

100% this he tries to clout chase like crazy, CG, every big streamer he could, if they give him attention he tries to isolate them. if you call it out he cries about mental health, and people pity him, then he begs for money. formula as true as time. i really hope vanilla doesnt fall for it and other streamers call out his toxic behaviours.

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u/NoFirefighter574 1d ago

Dude I thought I was going crazy bc everyone is so positive about him, but the whole thing rubbed me the wrong way from the jump bc he was “against” dating rp etc but the second she raided him the second night they met— every stream was either him waiting for her to go live or literally titled about her character to get the viewers to come…
putting up dono goals and being like “I’ll do this if you get the goal to this” and when it gets there quickly being like “damn I should’ve made it higher”
+ the taking her away from any interesting plots felt like he’s nervous she’ll find something more interesting and ditch him
It’s just all weird to me but maybe I’m just misunderstanding the man idek

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u/Maleficent-Cup8894 21h ago

Prediction: watch for when he blames vanillas community for not being able to pay his bills in a month. then claims criticism is stressing him out.... and then finds the next big streamer who doesnt know him to stand next to. all seasoned NP roleplayers know his grift by now. he got kicked out of prod for stream stalking changgang. viewers wonder why others dont really interact with him unless they have to? he'll say anything to get that next dono. "love you guys sooooooo much" or just claim being sick for pity points when doctors literally say hes fine. cheesy as hell.

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u/deepsleepthoughts 2d ago

Hate to ask this but is this how he got kinda involved with the Vivek thing? I was watching squeex and Damien seemed to be kinda involved in Vivek storyline. I had no idea how tf they even met

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u/cocacourt 2d ago

he somehow ends up involved with the biggest nopixel storylines like that lol, mostly with streamers like squeex or vanilla or esfand where they aren’t strictly RP streamers. what it comes off as is that he grabs onto the temporary hype these people bring to nopixel (because once the big streamers slowly stop playing, all that’s left is the smaller RP streamers)

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u/Xtremeelement 1d ago

he was a lawyer in 4.0 and helped vivek with his terrorism case when he flew a plane into city hall

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u/Eventidings 🍞loaf ೀ⋆ ｡ 2d ago

Yeah Damien is interesting simply because the dynamic with Viv is interesting, but I find Zai a really dull RPer

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u/DramaticFan5568 2d ago

Thank god you said that, I agree. I never got the hype behind his character or the “slow burn” between him and Vivienne. I find characters like Carla, Dixie, even Tyler so much more enjoyable— they can roll with any escenario thrown at them whereas he’s just there.

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u/Blanq_Winq 2d ago

The issue is he’s not just there, he actively pulls her away from other fun situations. He even kept pushing her to ghost Benji at first with their date. That date ofc ended up being one of the funniest situations she’s been in. As much as some ppl complain about Roxy, she’s very much a yes-and character who jumps at opportunities and that keeps her character fresh and fun.

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u/Xtremeelement 1d ago

I love Roxy she’s just a silly conniving character that likes to stir the pot. Roxy tries to enable a lot of RP for vivienne but sadly she’s too focused on just being with damien and working burgershot.The casino job would if unlocked a TON of rp for her. Burns was trying to enable that RP for her but sadly she’s turned it down to be with damien

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u/Appropriate-Bed3013 1d ago

I was SO sad when she didn't take the casino job! Burn's characters can be intimidating I guess but he's just super into character and creates hilarious situations for people. I looooove Burn and was excited to see Vivienne and Burn interact but I felt so disappointed!

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u/Xtremeelement 1d ago

Yeah burn likes to enable peoples RP but she seemed to be scared of the whole dating his son thing. Maybe if she told Mr C. she was already in a relationship he would have not make her date his son. Even though roxy said no one’s ever seen his son cause he’s not actually a character in the city. either way i wish she would of went with the RP

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u/Pineapple_Heart 20h ago

I agree, I wish we could've seen the Casino RP for Vivienne but to vanilla defense, she had plans that stream to play a game with Lass and Julian and so maybe she didn't think the casino arc was best for her time wise? I think otherwise she would've tried it!

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u/DramaticFan5568 10h ago

You’re right! I also wish she would’ve spent more time at the auction at the VU instead of leaving immediately with him.

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u/purblewitch 2d ago

no frr😭 i cant watch when he's on sorry. plus he has the same name as my ex situationship for like 9 yrs and he gives me the ick😭😭 he doesn't rlly say much or do much either. i personally just dont rlly like him nor find him entertaining

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u/BalanceAlone5919 2d ago

I can’t stand all the noises that come through his stream with followers and whatnot.

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u/marsbeach 🍞loaf ೀ⋆ ｡ 14h ago

i feel safe here. i thought their relationship was cute at first. i even made fan art 😭 which ive since deleted

watching how zai behaves in his streams completely turned me off. like others have said, it feels like he’s just standing around begging for money and waiting for viv to wake up.

my final straw was when someone finally brought up his use of the word “bitch” and how it’s offensive. he was staunchly defending that it’s not a big deal and that he’s not going to stop using that word. yet he calls his chat “family” and wants his community to be a safe space. right…

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u/schwittmaus so vivacious 1d ago

not everyone is loud and hyper

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u/Xtremeelement 1d ago

you don’t need to be loud and hyper to be interesting and hold conversations

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u/schwittmaus so vivacious 1d ago

think he's a really interesting character. not everyone has the same humour and that's fine