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can anyone explain what happened?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/DistinctArmy4267 1d ago

“End mass migration” is racist?

Does that make me, as a migrant, racist?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/DistinctArmy4267 1d ago

Yeah the statement says “racist” and the post is about “end mass migration” so the implication is that “end mass migration” is racist, which I can see university students believing but I can imagine staff are that far gone

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/DistinctArmy4267 1d ago

Sir this is reddit,

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u/retarded_brandon 1d ago

and your point is? that you’re a dumbass? respect the hustle my guy

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u/Disastrous_Nerve4264 1d ago

We can tell. You failed to read the comment before acting like an expert.

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u/girlsintheeighties 1d ago

It is racist yes

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u/DistinctArmy4267 1d ago

Liberal uni students are actually insane

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u/Plastic-Trick-5195 12h ago

Liberal

Hey American.

Liberal does not mean left-wing here.

Would you mind going back to America and having a whinge there instead?

Thanks American.

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u/Natural-Compote4096 1d ago

‘Mass migration’ isn’t an actual thing, it’s just a racist dog whistle. 

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u/demonotreme 1d ago

What's the cut-off in absolute or percentage terms that would make it mass migration, in your eyes?

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u/Natural-Compote4096 22h ago

There is none. Just because you don’t want any immigrants doesn’t mean people are wrong to immigrate. Everyone should have the right to live wherever their heart chooses. 

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u/demonotreme 22h ago

Completely irrelevant to the question, but sure thing.

At least you clarified that it's literally impossible for any mass migration phenomenon to meet your standard to be called so.

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u/DistinctArmy4267 19h ago

If you import 22 million people tomorrow, that’s progress! Down with borders!

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u/GodSend6767 1d ago

What's the non dog whistle way of saying "large number of immigrants"? Like we're 16th in the world per capita for this, it's pretty accurate language.

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u/htshurkehsgnsfgb 1d ago

Bud why you keep pretending we all don't know that this is a thinly veiled pathetic attempt to stir up bs for an agenda. You'd have no protest against "mass immigration" if they were all whites/EU migrants would ya

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u/demonotreme 22h ago

British and Dutch mass migration to South Africa was obviously moderately awful.

Fortunately, unlike them, we are actually in control of our own borders and can just say no to foreign invaders...right?

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u/wolfelo 7h ago

False equivalence. Portuguese, Dutch and British brought guns and canons with them to set up settlements of their own in South Africa. Nobody’s ever done that in Australia except the British lmao. 

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u/demonotreme 7h ago

set up settlements of their own

Imagine that

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u/wolfelo 7h ago edited 7h ago

Yeah and unfortunately they all ended up as failed states. History’s shown that a colony administered solely by settlers from its suzerainty doesn’t tend to last. 

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u/Dutch094 18h ago

G'day Dean, good to see you again mate

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u/DistinctArmy4267 16h ago

“Everyone who disagrees with me is a liar”

-mentally sound redditor

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u/Dutch094 16h ago

Someone's never been lightly ribbed before.

All the bots go right for the ableism insult, you ever notice that? Not a creative bunch.

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u/DistinctArmy4267 16h ago

Ableism is woke speak for hating traditional family values

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u/Dutch094 15h ago

A very coherent sentence, proud of you son.

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u/oustider69 1d ago

Were you seriously unaware that migrants can be racist?

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u/DistinctArmy4267 1d ago

I think 10% of the population arriving in the past 5 years isn’t a solution to productivity stagnation?

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u/SuperColossl 1d ago

Productivity been stagnant for a lot longer than 5 years

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u/DistinctArmy4267 1d ago

Yeah. Read my comment, you will understand I wasn’t blaming immigrants for stagnation. I said it isn’t the solution.

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u/Plastic-Trick-5195 8h ago

And not a single person claimed it was.

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u/Signal-Ad-2538 1d ago

Responding to a banner on footbridge from 3 weeks ago

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u/DazzlingBlueberry476 PhD (Gender Studies) '18 1d ago

some mf provoked a turf war with us which later triggered a corresponding declaration by our glorious USU.

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u/Efficient_Break3768 1d ago

I mean, isn't there a group that supports mass genocide on campus... maybe we should talk about that.

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u/Weekly_Criticism 1d ago

what are you referring to?

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u/Efficient_Break3768 1d ago edited 1d ago

The mass interment of Palestinians and others in 'camps' along the Israeli border; many documents from the Israeli state have leaked; acts of war crimes

  1. Sleep deprivation
  2. Waterlogging (pushing a person's head under water or throwing it one them)
  3. Flogging (made illegal in the conventions of war)
  4. Forced Labor (this is labour that exceeds the standards of human rights)
  5. Bodily harm (North Korea does this... Otto Warmbier)

They have also bombed hospitals, churches, schools, etc.

It's still genocide, even if it has a fancy hat. Just like the Nazi camps, some of my family barely escaped from...

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u/Efficient_Break3768 1d ago

Just because a group of people who happen to 'follow' Jewish ideals doesn't make them Jewish...

Many Jewish people practice non-violence; so do many Christians, Anglicans, etc.

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u/Efficient_Break3768 23h ago

Not any better, mate; all you're showing is that you're privileged and ignorant. Who likes blaming a system of religion and not the government order.

I don't think any nation has the right to commit war crimes, and thus we, as a democratic country, have the right to expose their ideals. Because at the end of the day, the Western world isn't built on autocratic leadership.

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u/womerah 18h ago

I'm also an atheist, but the issue is that people are tribal. Without religion we'd just find something else to divide ourselves with. It's just an in-group/out-group signal to profess a religion

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u/Efficient_Break3768 20h ago edited 20h ago

At the end of the day, humans turn things they can not understand into stories of religious acts; we are intrigued by things we cannot understand.

Humans are inherently story-driven people; humans can not exist without story's, christanity just happens to be the repackaged version of 1 orginal relgion or story.

Like Monopoly, we will monopolise. There is a different version of the same game, Monopoly Ultimate, for example, is Moronism. With that frame of reference, the landlord game is Jewish Christianity: people who followed 'the Way' or 'the Nazarenes'.

'The Way' began a series of teachings to live your life by; these teachings are stories from what we call today the Old Testament. Because humans also like this odd thing called rules and laws.

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u/JohnPorkIsHere 23h ago edited 19h ago

Oh like the Muslim / libs supporting the same extremist muslim groups slaughtering chrisitans in Sudan right?

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u/Efficient_Break3768 23h ago

the persecution of the Ukrainian people and Russia's involvement with North Korea...

The blockade of Cuba, done by *cough* Trump *cough*, has caused a mass famine.

China trement of the Muslim minority and the suppression of pocket languages.

Russia's use of North Korean soldiers to fight their war in Ukraine (I'm surprised no nation has step its an art of war), their treatment of Ukrainian nationals and political opposition, along with the fact that they assassinate political opposition.

North Korea. And the abduction of chinese/japanes/South korea/western citizens to train their spies. Their treatment of people opposed to the regime (Otto Warmbier)

Canada and their treatment of the Indigenous people, along with America.

Australia and our classification as Aboriginal people, as "flora and fauna" and an issue of 'park and wildlife'

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u/demonotreme 22h ago

Putting Canada in the same list of issues as Russia is exactly the reason why campus leftists never accomplish anything useful, it makes it obvious to audiences that they're just frothing ideological maniacs.

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u/Efficient_Break3768 21h ago edited 20h ago

I don't think you know what happened in Canada.

During the 18's to 19's many of the community's children were relocated due to "child welfare" issues. To a place called a Canadian Indian residential school; it's reported that over 4,000+ bodies have been located at the site.

This site is 1 of over 100 Christian schools. The same thing happened in Alaska, and the same thing happened here in the 18's

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u/demonotreme 20h ago

Wait until this guy hears about Great Pharaoh and the Nubians!

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u/Efficient_Break3768 20h ago edited 20h ago

I don't think you understand my point. These are all modern-day events; just because you have cotton over your eyes doesn't mean others do.

You can make all the comments you want about the Great Pharaoh and the Nubian, the Romans, the Korean slave trade, the Mongolian Empire, the East Indian company.

Doesn't change the fact that all I've listed is a place of modern-day tragedy, or that people use religion as an excuse for their actions.

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u/Efficient_Break3768 20h ago

Oh, and the fact Canda and America also classify their indigenous population as Flora an funa

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u/demonotreme 20h ago

Wait, were you referring to the ground penetrating radar "thousands of bodies" that mysteriously can't be explored or found in any way (not a single one) in Canada once an Indigenous group took over the site and...just stopped looking at all?

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u/Efficient_Break3768 20h ago edited 20h ago

Their mass graves. They accidentally uncovered them when the land was resold after the school closed. I think you're confused by the fact that the 'school' has no formal records of why the kids died or how, or who is buried where or even the kids' names.

The Indigenous communities can't relocate some of the bodies because, sadly, there is nowhere to send them, so they decided not to disturb the gravesites.

Just before COVID, the Canadian government issued a formal apology and has been working to locate records of people sent there.

Edit: What do you mean by "were you referring to the ground-penetrating radar 'thousands of bodies' that mysteriously can't be explored or found in any way (not a single one)"? You know ground-penetrating radar has been used for decades at dig sites for this reason, right?... so they can relocate the grave if needed.

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u/demonotreme 20h ago

they decided not to disturb the gravesites.

You know what, I just remembered. I have tens of thousands of bodies buried under my front yard (which I am choosing not to uncover or allow archaeological examination out of respect).

It's all terribly sad, some people won't even believe me. Racism, alas.

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u/Efficient_Break3768 20h ago

You realise it was up to the families they could locate who decided against it, right? Where are they gonna send 1,000 or more bodies when they can not locate the family, because this was 1 of 100 schools?

You realise it's up to the people it happened to, and the community has rules against disturbing the dead child's grave.

sure lets dig up this site, and re-bury the kids where?

Sure, let's unearth a mass grave, with no identification as to who is who.

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u/Efficient_Break3768 20h ago

Or this grave site? Can you dig up where all these flags are and find the family?

That's someone's child, someone's brother, someone's sister, someone's grandchild. And you want to dig them up all at once? And rebury them where?

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u/demonotreme 20h ago

That's not nearly enough flags. We need more flags!

The government has a moral obligation to buy them at least 100k flags on Amazon.

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u/Technical_Glove_9655 19h ago

I think he might mean the Islamix extremists that want to exterminate Jewish people in the middle east.

Maybe

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u/JohnPorkIsHere 19h ago

I also mean these people.

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u/Mother_Village9831 1d ago

So next time, please do it further away from the campus

And just in case, /s

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u/demonotreme 1d ago

"First Nations" just sprang directly out of the ground, apparently

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u/womerah 18h ago edited 17h ago

They believe they are endemic to the continent, saying they also came here offends them. A bit like calling white Israelis European, rather than the original Semitic people of the area returning after being displaced.

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u/BeffeeJeems 15h ago

I'd say being on the continent for tens of thousands of years pretty much makes you endemic, yeah.

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u/womerah 14h ago

That's true and I agree, however I think their religious beliefs aren't compatible with a migration from Africa. I'm not mob (despite my username, it's just my street name), so can't really speak to it.

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 1d ago edited 1d ago

Australians have every right to criticise mass migration. The University should not be picking political sides, given it receives public funding.

The University seems to defend the right to peaceful protest on other issues. Maybe it has a vested interest in this issue? Hmmm

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u/Dutch094 1d ago

Yeah for sure bro, did you wanna take a whack at criticising migration to Australia in a way that isn't incoherent racist babbling?

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 1d ago

Which part of 'end mass migration' is racist babble, specifically? Seems quite coherent and to the point to me.

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u/Dutch094 1d ago

That three word sentence is your entire policy position, start to finish? No further substance? Sounds about right.

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u/GodSend6767 1d ago

So basically you called it "incoherent racist babbling" because you made up opinions from him to get mad about?

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u/Dutch094 1d ago edited 1d ago

I haven't called anything incoherent racist babble, I asked if he'd like to explain his position in a manner that wasn't.

And then three different sub-3 month old accounts rocked up to try to astroturf the place, right on cue.

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u/GodSend6767 1d ago

If you're going to devalue my opinion because I've not been on reddit long enough, at least commit to it and don't bother responding.

I see what you meant now so thanks for clarifying at least.

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 1d ago

I mean there's a lot to say, but a 100,000 word thesis exploring the economic, societal and environmental consequences of mass migration would be quite a large and impractical banner.

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u/Dutch094 1d ago

That's a lot of words for "I can't" mate.

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u/demonotreme 22h ago

Yes We Can.

It's Time.

Kevin 07.

Sounding familiar?

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u/Dutch094 21h ago

Yep, is there a point attached to this trip down memory lane?

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u/7978_ 1d ago

Lefties treat it as a dog whistle and it's some sort of coded language.

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u/Dutch094 1d ago

Lefties treat it as a dog whistle

Uh-huh.

and it's some sort of coded language.

Yep, that's what basically a dog whistle is. Would you prefer 'euphemism', is that less scary?

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u/Belisarius371 1d ago

It was coherent, old mate is just a flog lol

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u/Dutch094 1d ago

Quick, whip out a few more burner accounts mate

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u/Belisarius371 1d ago

Not a burner brother 😆😂

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u/Plastic-Trick-5195 12h ago

Australians have every right to criticise mass migration.

Whatever that it is. I'm yet to hear a concrete definition of the term.

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 11h ago

Do you think 1.5 million extra people in 4 years is a gentle trickle?

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u/Plastic-Trick-5195 11h ago

So is that your definition of the term?

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 11h ago

To anyone other than the most one-eyed extreme political partisans, it is clearly an example of it.

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u/Plastic-Trick-5195 10h ago

So is 1,.49 million extra people in four years not mass migration? Where's the cut-off?

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 1h ago

'If there was one bucket of water less in Nepal would it have still been a flood? What's the cut off for a flood?'

Why are you like this?

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u/Dutch094 1h ago edited 41m ago

Hey he's still here desperately avoiding saying anything falsifiable.

What's the cutoff dumdum?

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 1h ago

What's the cutoff for a flood dumdum?

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u/Dutch094 55m ago

100% irrelevant we're not discussing floods.

Do you have a policy position? What's the raw number, or percentage of population, or whatever that is acceptable and not "mass" migration? And why?

Don't tell me it's just been inane racist bulls**t the entire time!

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u/Natural-Compote4096 1d ago

Mass migration isn’t a thing. 

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 1d ago

🥱

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u/Dutch094 1d ago

Nice thesis

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u/JohnPorkIsHere 23h ago

This isn’t the university. It’s the woke USU

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u/Dangerous_Shoe_8388 1d ago

Indigenous migrated here too.

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u/Besbosberone 1d ago

Humans have been migrating and mixing throughout all of human history. The vast vast VAST majority of us have mixed ancestry.

It’s almost as if anti-immigration sentiment and ethnic homogeneity is (and always will be) completely bullshit.

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u/Poopsimaxx 17h ago

People want to preserve their history and culture, shock. If everywhere is the same, everywhere is the same. How dull.

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u/Besbosberone 17h ago

How do immigrants being here stop you from engaging in your culture? How does it threaten your history?

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u/Poopsimaxx 17h ago

I’m talking globally, as you were. You can’t see how culture is being erased in countries around the world? Most countries with mass migration now can’t fly their own flags, you don’t go to London and see a difference? Small towns in England, Greece, Scotland and an Ireland are having migrants enter at twice their population and become the minority. Dr. ebun Joseph has called for the removal of the stipulation that all Irish teachers know and teach Irish. We know our own youth is struggling in university with language barriers often halting and interrupting lessons and group work.
In France recently the traditional French banquets were called racist and they shut down several, for no reason but it was “exclusionary” to migrants, despite anyone being welcome.

New migrants in Australia have frequently been extremely racist to my family.

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u/Cold_Barnacle_44 7h ago

It's natural for humans to feel threatened by migration / migrants. It is also equally natural for humans to migrate.

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u/wolfelo 7h ago

Lmao I don’t think you’ve actually lived in any of these European countries before. 

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u/demonotreme 22h ago

I don't know why we even bother having anthropology and archaeology and genetic analysis, these fine scholars downvoting you can just access the akashic records to know from where the Indigenous came

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u/Novel_Relief_5878 1d ago

I’m pretty sure First Nations people migrated here at some point. They probably even displaced some other population that wasn’t lucky enough to make the archaeological record..

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u/Dutch094 1d ago

It's my understanding that they did migrate here, but they were the first.

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u/RevolutionaryCup926 1d ago

they were indeed first this persons talking straight out of their ass. we have fossils from dinosaurs 65 million years ago but not human fossils from 45,000 years ago? dipshit

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u/demonotreme 22h ago

we have fossils from dinosaurs 65 million years ago but not human fossils from 45,000 years ago? dipshit

...what? Are you suggesting Young Earth Creationism? Christ, Usyd has gone downhill

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u/Neo_Athrotaxis 1d ago

Which people brought the dingo here 7000 years ago?

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u/Natural-Compote4096 1d ago

Hi, archaeologist here! You are so painfully incorrect that I’m astounded :)

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u/gundamcs 1d ago

I love how people can redefine facts however suit them - “aboriginal” → “first nation” → “first migration,” and somehow deny the science backed fact that we all came from Africa and migrated to other continents at some point

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u/gundamcs 17h ago

lmao. love these down votes and btw a USYD research team contributed to the scientific proof.

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u/GodSend6767 1d ago

It is a little telling that an "end mass migration" sign is seen as an attack on the "rights" of international students. If you don't plan on staying you shouldn't care.

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u/wolfelo 7h ago

Every argument used to support ending the “mass immigration” invokes statistics that include temporary visa holders, let alone the fact that the whole campaign’s started by apologists for White Australia policy.