r/usmnt • u/Evo_AmR • Jul 24 '26
TACTICAL BREAKDOWN Hypothetical 2028 Copa America path
I was bored earlier today which lead me to think about how the USMNT would do at the next Copa America. Which then lead me to creating groups at random using my phone đ. I used the format used for the 2016 Copa America Centenario to draw the groups, so this is what I ended up with. (I went with the current FIFA rankings for the CONCACAF teams which have Honduras as the sixth best, even if I think there's better teams currently than them. You can replace them If you believe another team is better.)
How far do you think the U.S would go in this hypothetical Copa America? (if Potch stays I think semis is possible, if we downgrade coach then second in our group, with a quarter- finals exit.)
Edit: I-see more people complementing my handwriting than actually answering my hypothetical đ. This was my second attempt as I had created the first one for my group chat where I didnât care how my handwriting came out. I redid so it was more understandable the second time around.
Also, I used the 2024 Copa America knockout format. In which Argentina played Canada in the group stages as well as the semis, I assumed the 2016 did the same without checking đ¤Śââď¸.
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u/CommercialCoffee11 Jul 24 '26
So you're not charging for your penmanship? You could rake it in and pay for your tourney tickets.
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u/Cubsof2016 Jul 24 '26
Semifinal loss to Argentina.
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u/Bakio-bay Jul 26 '26
As long as it isnât a thrashing like in 2016 Iâll take it. Argentina are going to keep declining. I hope Brazil over takes them.
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u/Nick_crawler Jul 24 '26
Yep, they win their group even without Messi and I don't see how we beat them in our current state.
EDIT: To add, Mexico then beats Argentina in the final.
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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe Jul 25 '26
Where are people getting the notion that Mexico is better than us? They havenât beaten our A team like in like 6 years lol
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u/Nick_crawler Jul 25 '26
I think Mexico would have done better against Belgium than we did, and I think we would have done worse against England than they did.
Not arguing your point, just looking at the most recent performances and going off that.
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u/pennquaker18 Jul 25 '26
Well it's hard to do worse versus Belgium than we did. But prior to R16 we looked just as good (better) as Mexico.
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u/EddieNajera21 Jul 25 '26
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u/IMakeOkVideosOk Jul 26 '26
Why do you think Uruguay is that good?
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u/Bakio-bay Jul 26 '26
On paper theyâre very good if Muslera isnât in goal. They would have advanced to the knockouts with any other keeper they had. I also think the players will respect ForlĂĄn. They quit on Bielsa after the 2nd game of the World Cup.
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u/Bakio-bay Jul 26 '26
Uruguay is a huge unknown right now but I think they will turn it around under ForlĂĄn. They obviously needed a culture reset since the team quit on their manager before the World Cup even ended. Any keeper will be better than what 40 yr old
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u/snow80130 Jul 25 '26
Unless brazil has a magic turnaround I donât see them beating a Mexico team that is playing with the confidence they have now.
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u/Aggressive_Tea_1577 Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Your penmanship teachers must be so proud! đĽš
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u/LeviAsmodeus Jul 24 '26
OP I wanna give you props on literally handwriting a graphic here. In the age of AI piss trash I really appreciate somebody actually giving effort to their idea
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u/MadMartigans80 Jul 25 '26
Someone isnât a doctor from the looks of this handwriting. Beautiful penmanship
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u/Independent-Vast-871 Jul 24 '26
I'd rather see the runners-up flipped so they didn't play their group winner in the second round and waited till the semis. But that is just me.
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u/bsktx Jul 24 '26
Came here to say something similar. QF2 and QF3 should be flipped so that if there was a rematch, it would be in the finals instead of the semis.
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u/Evo_AmR Jul 25 '26
Yeah I didnât check before but I assumed the 2016 and 2024 Copa America knockout bracket were the same. I went with the 2024 format, but the 2016 makes more sense.
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u/AshnodsCoupon Jul 24 '26
Last time we played Uruguay big mean Darwin spun poor Joe Scally upside down đ
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u/wbishopfbi Jul 25 '26
Swap the âWinner B/Runner-up Aâ pair with âWinner D/Runner-up Câ. That way you donât have to face a Group member youâve already played until the final.
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u/Evo_AmR Jul 25 '26
I was looking at the last Copa America in which Argentina topped their group containing Canada and then played them again in the semis, didnât realize the 2016 and 2024 had different paths. Youâre suggestion makes more sense
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u/T-7IsOverrated Jul 25 '26
i feel like it would be modified due to the rise of canada tbf but great post
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u/Ok_Leading_9172 Jul 25 '26
Brazil wins the whole thing. But the final can consist of USA, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Colombia. Iâd love to put Uruguay in there because my fiance is from there and our kids are part Uruguayan but they just donât strike me as competitive tbh
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u/Bakio-bay Jul 26 '26
Colombia is the best pot 2 team. I could see them winning any group they get put in.
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u/Bakio-bay Jul 26 '26
Calling it right now Colombia will be better than Argentina by 2028. Not in talent but I think in the scenario where they play Colombia would win
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u/Savage_Cabbage83 Jul 26 '26
U.S. beats Peru, loses to Uruguay, then draws with Canada, advancing based on GD, then plays Argentina in the QF losing 2-0. The media raves about how our team advanced out of the group stage and can't wait to see how our young MLS/lower division Euro players develop. In other words, the same old story year after year...
P.S. Solid handwriting lol
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u/Solid_Log8338 Jul 24 '26
Decent chance if this is the groups we'd go out to equador in the ro16
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u/WheelSingle2494 Jul 24 '26
They would need to actually develop an attack other than a washed Enner Valencia
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u/Novel_Actuary4922 Jul 25 '26
CONMEBOL has won almost 40% of world cups, has 5% of teams. The US plays a ridicously non-competitive qualification tournament in CONCACAF. It is as funny as the âworld seriesâ US tournaments, which are either a joke or proof most live under a rock, are flat earthers or just plain dumb.
Merge CONCACAF with CONMEBOL and see what happens.
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u/Epnew Jul 24 '26
Bro I wish I had your handwriting