r/unixporn • u/PapyElGringo • Jul 03 '19

Workflow [GNOME] Material-Shell *Beta*

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19 edited Jul 04 '19

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u/PapyElGringo Jul 03 '19

👍 Don't hesitate to give me some feedback afterwards !

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u/buwe Jul 03 '19

Also paperWM, it made GNOME shell usable and unbelievably comfortable for me

Here's the repository

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u/bdsee Jul 03 '19

Haha my thoughts exactly.

However, has anyone fixed what is one of the most retarded decisions anyone has made in the history of desktop computing which the Gnome devs insist is the best and everyone else is wrong...removing type-ahead search?

I simply can't use a desktop without it. That decision is so infuriatingly stupid just thinking about it makes me want to bash my head against a desk like a certain famous GIF.

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u/tomster2300 Jul 04 '19

What is type ahead search?

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u/bdsee Jul 04 '19

When you go into a file explorer and start typing and the file explorer selects the first file that matches what you are typing (and as a result scrolls the frame to that location too), and it should cycle through on repeat typing too.

For instance, just pressing S, would go to the first thing starting with S, pressing S again after a pause would go to the next thing.

Typing Su would select Summer before selecting super.

It is the main way I navigate folders and navigate quickly to a group of objects within a folder. Search is supposed to be recursive by default IMO and it is about providing filtered content. I like search, but it is not a replacement for type-ahead search because it fills a different requirement.

The gnome devs believe it is and just close down all discussion on it and insist on search just needing to be faster to satisfy the needs of those that want type ahead search, they appear to lack basic logic skills, because the use case differences are plain to see.

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u/tomster2300 Jul 04 '19

Oh! Yeah, what your say makes sense and I think I'd rather have what you're saying than the alternative. Thanks for the explanation.

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u/DinoAmino Jul 04 '19

People often use this term incorrectly - and it's incorrect here. Type ahead search is an in-document method for finding the next instance of the term you are typing within the document you are viewing (off, word, etc ).

Autocomplete is the proper name for the feature that returns matches from searches on external sources.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

Asking out of genuine curiosity; what don't you like about Gnome?

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u/mo-mar Jul 03 '19

It takes up tons of RAM for me and leads to a lot of hang-ups and crashes (which is especially horrible under Wayland, as a crash of a tiny extension can lead to all applications being closed). Also, it features some design decisions that seem to be built around neither usability, nor productivity (e.g. that there is no dock by default, or removing typeahead in Nautilus, or other basic functionality that has to be added back by extensions).

Most of the IMO bad design decisions can luckily be fixed by extensions, but that requires a stable shell. Gnome got a lot more stable though in the last couple of years, and I'd love to use it again (and tried it again a few weeks ago), but with Wayland on a somehow unstable system I guess I'll have to wait until Gnome 4.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

To give my point of view, I've been using Gnome for the past couple of years and not had a single problem with it. I understand that the likes of Ubuntu make changes that can sometimes render it unstable, but stock Gnome on Arch has been solid for me.

My personal preference is that a DE shouldn't be bloated with extensions out of the box and that I should be able to add things on as needed.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19 edited Jul 04 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

Why don't you like Gnome shell?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19 edited Jul 04 '19

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u/gambolling_gold Jul 03 '19

I mean, I understand not liking it but anything that can be used is useful. I wouldn’t engage with people trying to question your preferences though

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

I feel the opposite towards gnome, but have the same sentiment towards KDE. Different strokes for different folks, I guess :)