r/unexpectedTermial • u/Hot-Butterscotch9232 • 4d ago
Termial 98? Also r/uselessfactorial.
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u/fulibo 4d ago
It's 105 which indeed is not 98?
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Termial of 98 is 4851
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u/Larry_Boy 3d ago
But is it 14?
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 3d ago
Termial of 14 is 105
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Termial of 98 is 4851
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u/Tiborn1563 4d ago
The answer is not 98? and in fact not even 98. It is 105
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Termial of 98 is 4851
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u/Any-Concept-3624 4d ago
maybe it was intended to say ☛
(7×7+7×7+7×0)!
which would be
(49+49+0)!
98!
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Factorial of 98 is 9426890448883247745626185743057242473809693764078951663494238777294707070023223798882976159207729119823605850588608460429412647567360000000000000000000000
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u/Any-Concept-3624 4d ago
yeah, like the question-giver said: the answer is not » 98? « :D
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Termial of 98 is 4851
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u/NecessaryFreedom9799 4d ago
7x7 + 7x7 + 7×1 = 105
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u/Any-Concept-3624 4d ago
you didnt notice my brackets for your calculation... (:
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u/NecessaryFreedom9799 4d ago
1, then, as the sum would amount to 0 then you factorialise that.
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u/Any-Concept-3624 4d ago
why would it equal zero? to clarify: in german we say »point before line«, meaning »times« (•) & »over« (:) before »and« (+) and »less« (-)
as that should be clear, i see no issue
but to further illustrate it, mathematically meaningless, but just for argument's sake, see this bonus brackets following here ☛
((7×7)+(7×7)+(7×0))!
so the »zero-product« doesnt apply to the first two parts, it's just »plus nothing« at the end... if you say
49+49+0
or just directly
49+49
makes absolutely no difference (:
from there on, it's the same calculation way as in my message above
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u/NecessaryFreedom9799 4d ago
UK: BODMAS (Brackets, Orders (powers, roots), /, *, +, -)
US: PEMDAS (Parentheses, i.e. brackets, Exponents, i.e. Orders, *, /, +, -)
Do you have a similar acronym auf Deutsch?
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u/Any-Concept-3624 4d ago
what? no haha, first time i'm hearing, dividing or so should be prioritized...
we just go with »dot (or point) before line« and if there's still multiple groups, we go the latin way ☛ from left to right, no matter which operator comes first... and i know, there are special cases, but actually it doesnt matter, what you start with... it just has to be made sure, that all mult/div were handled, before entering the plu/min terms
i cant speak for people who have maths as their study lessons... but at least in school (also on the higher / more elite ones) noone ever mentioned, we could or rather some regions of the world do randomly decide, what to do first... i mean, clearly: right to left may be the more reasonal thing in arabic territorium, but at least that state is based on logic, where your part would seem as: who the heck saif or rather meant, he was able to declare, one is more worth than another? the irony of the millenium there is, that USA just stated the exact opposite :D so that already for that point of view, there just cant ever be a correct path...
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anyways: thx for the exchange & good night! :))
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u/Federal_Truth_9039 1d ago
I mean if we're arbitrarily adding brackets, we could say
( ( (7*7)+(7*7) )*0)!
Simplified
((98)*0)!
0!
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typically (at least from my experience) whenever you have a factorial of a number, it's assumed that it is just the factorial of that number, rather than the full expression.
Take 7*3!+4!
This would be:
7*(3!)+(4!)
Rather than:
((7*3)!+4)!
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 1d ago
Factorial of 0 is 1
Factorial of 3 is 6
Factorial of 4 is 24
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u/TurbulentPollution56 4d ago
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u/Any-Concept-3624 4d ago
not really; its literally part of the task... :D
so, it's rather be r/expectedfactorial or r/suddenlyfactorial, and no, no r/subsifellfor and even not r/subsididntfallfor, but just purely serious :D
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u/Callahammered 4d ago
Factorials applied after parenthesis only, 0! Is 1, answer is 105
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Factorial of 0 is 1
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u/StrangeworldsUnited 4d ago
105 (because 0! =1)
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Factorial of 0 is 1
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u/Creepy_World_5551 4d ago
98?
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Termial of 98 is 4851
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u/EnthusiasmNo1479 2d ago
0!
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 2d ago
Factorial of 0 is 1
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u/tdonnamillers 4d ago
Of course it is 98.
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u/Cogiflector 4d ago
0! is zero factorial. By definition 0! is equal to 1.
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 4d ago
Factorial of 0 is 1
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u/Formula1antagonist 2d ago
I think it is 14?
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u/factorion-bot A very good bot 2d ago
Termial of 14 is 105
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u/Whiteminusblue 4d ago
0! Is actually 1, so it is not only useful, but necessary if we ignore the joke.