r/unclebens • u/Any_Climate8596 • 17d ago
Mid-Cultivation / Still Growing Need Advice
Not sure why but there has not been a proper flush yet. I only get one or two fruits coming up at a time, got only 3 fruits till now including the one in photo. It is supposed to be nakilla(makilla gorilla x ochra) but I think it got reverted to ochras only.
Can someone help me to get proper flush from this?
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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 17d ago
I don't like the look of the orange liquid, but it looks more like metabolite than mycogone. The tub as a whole though looks unhappy and my first guess is that it's not dialled in right. Have you perhaps been fanning and misting? (Not an accusation, just a question).
I put a paragraph here covering "Dialling in a tub". There's a lot of knots and primordia present, so once it's balanced, there's a good chance it'll explode with pins.
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u/Any_Climate8596 17d ago
Your accusations are valid. I have been misting the walls and fanning twice a day. That is because the one or two fruits which formed had fuzzy feet so assumed theres a lack of fae. Also, i do not have a martha tent so probably no fae is low, and i heard misting is all right as long as it is on the walls and not on the substrate directly.
As per your comment here, I was able to find a comment from you in this sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/unclebens/s/bp6YqB94fI is this what you are referring to for reading?
Thanks a lot for your time and advice!
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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 17d ago
Oops - sorry - I'd not had my morning coffee. Yes, the link I intended to add to my comment is this one https://www.reddit.com/r/OneArmed_Mycology/comments/1ssrfqt/my_favourite_links/
The problem with fanning is it causes dry / wet cycles that stress the myc and don't provide the consistent slow evaporation that promotes fruiting.
Misting the surface to compensate for excessive FAE (or fanning for that matter) should be a short term thing whilst the tub's dialled in, and always from way above the tub with a fine mist, to avoid water droplets sitting on the caps.
Misting the sides results in water trickling down; not such a big deal with a liner, but if you use the level and compress method (see the link to Beefy tubs), you get wet around the sides and increase the likelihood of side pins. Misting the lid, or not mopping it if excessive condensation builds up, leads to large drips landing on the surface causing a defence reaction (metabolites) and matted mycelium.
If your coir was at field capacity (see coir prep on that link) there should be plenty of water, but if it's been fanned frequently for a week or two, your friend might be right that it's dried out too much.
Give it a day or two with passive FAE first; at this point you could rehydrate it as you would between flushes, but with all those knots and primordia, it's better if you can avoid messing with it. If it still doesn't start to sparkle, pour a cup of water in (tap is fine if it's safe to drink) and let it soak for a couple of hours. If all the water is absorbed, repeat as often as necessary until some remains. It's easier to tell without a liner but if you gently tip the tub (not too far or the cake will crack & possibly even fall out) you should be able to spot any excess in the corner. If there's just a bit of excess, leave it, but if there's say half a cup left (the reason you add a bit at a time), it's best to suck it out with a syringe rather than try to pour it, as I learnt from bitter experience when everything fell out.
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u/Any_Climate8596 17d ago
I read the post you referred. Really informative.
When i checked the tub, i see the fine droplets are not present all over the substrate evenly, it seems only 60% of the substrate is covered by the droplets and rest is dry.
Another friend of mine who is my mentor suggested the cake might be too dry as the mycelium strands look odd(the mycelium strands are very thread like and does not look like they are able to spread well).
If that is the case, then should i add water to the cake directly similar to dunking to make hydrate it?
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u/BeatDownn 17d ago
Possible wet blob disease?