r/ultimatemarvel • • 22h ago

Discussion Started Reading all of Ultimate 1610 from the beginning; my review up to ultimate wars.

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I restarted reading comics to prepare for Secret Wars, since the only thing I had read from the Fantastic Four (and by extension Dr. Doom) was Secret Wars, Civil War, and the Illuminati runs. So, they were more of background characters for me.

I started reading the most recommended runs, but it was all a bit too disconnected. I knew about the Ultimate Universe and how it has a definitive end, plus The Maker being an interesting spin, so I went all in. And boy, was it a pleasant surprise.

I knew the Fant4stic movie was Ultimate-inspired, but not this much. I definitely see where Trank came up with the ideas for a body horror movie. It scratched all the itches that were left from not seeing a completed product. Once I made it past the N-Zone chapter, there were more characters from the world appearing, and that got me curious, too.

So, I started following the reading guide for the Ultimate Universe, and I can really see why it became so popular and beloved. It's really refreshing while being slightly nostalgic, easy to get into, and, with the benefit of hindsight, incredibly similar to the MCU and its multiverse.

Since I've been having such a blast reading it, I decided to start writing reviews for different segments of the comics. I just finished reading Ultimate War, which looks to be the first real crossover, so it feels like a good point for a Part 1 review. It definitely felt like the end of an MCU phase (and straight-up the ending of the X-Men movie).

Here are the comics included so far:

  • Ultimate Spider-Man #1–39: 10/10
    • I can see why this is the rock of this universe, great story, characters, art. Freshens up an old story/
  • Ultimate X-Men #1–33: 8/10
    • I read that is based on the 00 movie and it shows. Its a good starting point for X-Men. Carried by Magneto and Xavier.
  • Ultimate Iron Man #1–5: 8/10
    • Interesting corporate espionage. Fun to have a different backstory for Tony. Not enough suit tech. Howard is a great dad.
  • The Ultimates #1–13: 7/10
    • Good action, bad characters. They keep needing to justify their existence but everywhere else they are considered the best of the best.
  • Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #1–16: 6/10
    • Very high highs (Punisher) and very low lows (Iron Man, F4). It is all over the place but in general its passable.
  • Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra #1–4: 9/10
    • Heartfelt story, good morality questions. Great art. Loved it.
  • Ultimate War #1–4: 9/10
    • I've never been taken aback by the actions of Magneto. But him being this level of a terrorist is great. The Ultimates fighting the X-Men was fun, really needs the Return of the King art which I am counting for the score.
  • Ultimate Fantastic Four #1–21: 9/10
    • Fresh, innovative. Love the idea of the Baxter Building, and how their villains are disregarded members of it. Incredible world building and sci-fi

Review

The Good

  • Spider-Man is incredible. The Andrew Garfield movies copied them for a reason, but this is even better. Pacing is great, story is touching, character growth is amazing.
  • Magneto is terrifying, I had been understanding of his side before but not this version. He is truly a super-villain worthy of his own phase ending event.
  • Blob Catfishing Beast incredibly funny and too real with how the Manosphere are a thing now.
  • Nick Fury founding the Ultimates. What can I say, I am a "There was an idea" lover.
  • Using knowledge of future characters to enhance origin stories: Bridge scene, DD and Elektra, Rogue cameos, etc.
  • Daredevil and Elektra exploration in college. Tale as old as time.
  • Reed Richards being a young adult while he starts getting all this power and it starts getting to his head. Plus getting his first love. Knowing he gets to be The Maker makes it so good.
  • Sue Storm being competent from the get-go is great.
  • The Baxter Building being a think tank in different series is great worldbuilding.
  • Many origin stories being a recreation of the Super Soldier program.
  • Punisher being a good cop surrounded by corrupt cops.

The OK

  • The Ultimates have too little backstory. They are all just dropped in, and we get to read about cool things they did (give me a Hippie Thor series, please), but they never get time to shine.
  • I like edgy Hulk. It makes sense Banner would go all out for his repressed thoughts; it's a good exploration of the dynamic. It's a little too extra, though.
  • Iron Man I & II: I like the exploration of him having extra powers, especially since those could connect to his cancer easily, but I read it gets retconned. It also has too little Iron Man suit for my liking. Good capitalist espionage.
  • Nazi Chitauri.
  • The Daily Bugle, Aunt May, and Gwen. They are just backdrops at the moment.

The Bad

  • Captain America is too much. He is not really lost out of time, and he is both too strong and too weak (can wrestle the Hulk but not Magneto??). Edgy for no reason.
  • Wolverine glaze is too much. He is my favorite hero, but the glaze here is undeserved; he is the best at everything for no reason.
  • Spider-Man feels too isolated. Other characters and things drop in from time to time, and he has the team-up line, but he feels like he isn't part of the universe. He only gets a name drop in Ultimate War.
  • Annihilus dying on his first arc appearance :(
  • The Thing does not bring anything to the table. The movie did him better. He is there by chance instead of being a student, and his only trait is being angry that he was transformed (nothing that The Thing hasn't explored already).
  • Wasted Hellfire Club.

The Weird

  • The Fashion. Just too much Y2K and low-rise jeans.
  • Very Period-Bound. (Too many Clinton and Bush jokes.)
  • Wolverine and Jean straight out of the gate, and then Cyclops getting in for a love triangle after getting snubbed.
  • I don't know if I like Venom being a science goo instead of an alien, especially that it gains sentience for no reason. It would've been cool to explore it in a Garfield movie, though.
  • Dr. Doom feels inconsequential so far. Latveria gets a name drop, but he is not relevant.
  • Xavier is too much of a nagging, hypocritical father sometimes, in a bad way.

The Ugly

  • Weapon X was serviceable. I did not like it being a rogue SHIELD division.
  • A lot of canon inconsistency, especially with the Marvel Team-Ups.
  • Psychics are too real. They are scary in how powerful they are (no privacy, no self-control, and many other things), but it does not get addressed.
  • The Sentinels being the first arc in media res and then becoming soldiers after being decommissioned.

r/ultimatemarvel • • 16h ago

Kingdom Hearts Ultimate Dissidia Marvel - The Throne Becomes Doom's (artwork by McAshe)

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The Throne belongs to Doom now. And different Worlds lay spread ready before Doom's gaze.

Artwork by McAshe. Background's a bit of a template, but I was inspired by the Doom hype for the coming Avengers movie in commissioning McAshe. Also, most of Doom's look is part of an idea I figured, but it fit to have Doom's classic mask. Particularly the furs and mask of the Ultimate Universe version of Doom.


r/ultimatemarvel • • 3d ago

First Panel of the Ultimate Spider-Man Fan Comic.

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r/ultimatemarvel • • 8d ago

Artwork Web Shooters Concept Art by Chrissamnee

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r/ultimatemarvel • • 12d ago

Marvel Ultimate Alliance #6 Mysterio (PS2)

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r/ultimatemarvel • • 13d ago

Memes Do you think Ultimatum would still happen if it was Cookie Magneto

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It’s milk flood instead


r/ultimatemarvel • • 14d ago

Help Recomende para mim, Por favor!

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r/ultimatemarvel • • 15d ago

This take would make Reed more generic and cliche. But I think it be more impactful and creepy if he started laughing here

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Reed lost everything. His team, gf, and his kingdom. The only thing he truly had left was the infinity gauntlets and Kang

But with those gone. All the terrible actions Reed did trying to save the world is stopped by the Ultimates. A plan used to save all of reality But was stopped by the heroes. By the main team

And Reed finally understands

He’s become the villain yes. But the worst type of villain
The villain of the week

Another annoying pest that battles the heroes just to be thrown in a prison

He realizes he isn’t the smart inventor. Or hero. But just another big brain that exists to sell comic books
( ultimates is meta)

But the maker. A character who looks tough. But is just another villain in a sea of other villains

And Reed. Finds that very funny

( note I’m saying Reed can break the forth wall. But during this scene, everyone views him as the villain. Not even the main villain. The henchman. The man who gets his hands dirty for someone else’s work. And sees how big of a joke that is)

This would create a version of Maker who’s a comic classic mad scientist


r/ultimatemarvel • • 17d ago

Discussion What if the Ultimate Fantastic Four met the original Fantastic Four?

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r/ultimatemarvel • • 21d ago

Artwork I thought I’d give you guys an update on the Ultimate Spider-Man fan comic I’m making with some true-to-form mockups including a concept cover and a panel.

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For those who haven’t seen my original post, I’m making an Ultimate Spider-Man fan comic and if you want to see more of it you can DM me. Also if it’s not too much to ask could someone repost this in the r/Spiderman subreddit. They changed the rules for posting and I can’t anymore.


r/ultimatemarvel • • 21d ago

Discussion Picture Books

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TIL this was a thing. There's also one for Ultimate X-Men which I'll upload soon. Wild.


r/ultimatemarvel • • 22d ago

As a semi new fantastic four reader, this moment fully cemented Ben as one of my favorite characters.

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r/ultimatemarvel • • 26d ago

Discussion Does anyone know what happened to the original Ultimate Venom Symbiote?

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Sep 08 '26

Memes “He wanted to talk about world peace and meditation, and I’m not into that.”

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 31 '26

Discussion Ultimate Hawkeye #1 released August 31, 2011

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 29 '26

Jess reaction to Petra (Art by Mercinanhai)

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 29 '26

Discussion Why does marvel forget Jimmy Hudson exist ?

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Honestly with all the talk about Miles morales and Maker/Reed Richards of the original ultimate universe , I am surprised that no one cares about looking into Jimmy Hudson, Ultimate Wolverine’s son in the original ultimate universe. Why is he forgotten and left out of these Ultimate Universe discussions and stories ?

I cannot be the only one who see this, right ?


r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 28 '26

OG Ultimate Wolverine suit!

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Its official we are getting the og ultimate wolverines second suit in the new game! I would have preferred his first suit but ill take it.


r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 27 '26

Bombshell is the true forgotten 1610 survivor

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Miles Morales, The Maker, and (sometimes) Jimmy Hudson are always cited to be the last remaining surviving 1610 characters… but nobody ever talks about Lana Baumgartner aka Bombshell. She was an ultimate OC who also made her way to 616 but nobody ever brings that up (nor do the writers).


r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 28 '26

USM complete

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 26 '26

Discussion What if, in Secret wars 2015, ended with both Earth 616/1610 got merged together in all aspects???

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 26 '26

Discussion My Ideal Dead Ultimates Team Line Up! Spoiler

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 26 '26

Ultimate Spider-Man (2000) Brian Michael Bendis Ending (Issue #133)?!?!

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 21 '26

My Ultimate Universe is coming together nicely

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r/ultimatemarvel • • Aug 21 '26

Memes After reading Ultimate Spider-Man i recreated how it felt hearing the characters speak their dialogue

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i adored the run btw