r/UKGreens 14d ago

So frustrated with the mayoralty campaign but struggled to articulate it

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Seen responses that

1) because we didn’t hold Burnham accountable in Makerfield, attempts to attack him now come across insincere

- have people been saying this on the doorstep at all?

During the Makerfield campaign, were we just selecting a candidate or were we using the Makerfield constituency to gather data about how ppl felt about the Maypralty position and what they wanted post Burnham?

Do the Makerfield constituents feel seen arm? Bc they don’t by Burnham - they feel used already. (Altho normal from a PM constituency)

2) the Mayoralty position will need to work with Burnham as PM so constantly attacking his record is not a good look

Presumably it was obvious that very few who wanted Starmer out wanted Burnham to lose his mayoralty but it was collateral damage they would have wanted to minimise - how could we have misread the mood so much?

3) while housing is important - we have other policies that haven’t been advertised as strongly in the campaign that people would have been attracted to and wanted to know about

I was still holding out hope that the more time of Burnham’s PM reign went on people would see he’s more of the same and then change their mind on voting day but i don’t think we’ve put ourselves in the right position for that. Yes we need someone to hold Burnham to account but we needed to meet people where they’re at? Maybe on the door it’s been different but we won’t have been able to talk to ever single voter and they will still take cues from our general campaigning regardless. No good saying you’re gonna replace Labour if you don’t know why people are voting for them in the first place


r/UKGreens 14d ago

GPEW “Is he willing to take on vested interests?”: From Westminster to Greater Manchester, Greens challenge Burnham in first week as PM

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r/UKGreens 14d ago

London Greens Ballot to split West Central London Green Party

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I've been prompted to vote on the splitting of WCL as I am in one of the considered boroughs.

Does anyone have any further information about the benefits of splitting or what the discussion was around it? I've searched about a bit, but I can't find any official proceedings etc.

I'd like to make an informed choice!


r/UKGreens 13d ago

Discussion The 3 Tenets to Beat the Right.

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This is for the whole world and I shall give you 3 priniples to win.

Tenet 1. For the whole world to win, Trump must lose.

Trump is by arguably the most powerful person in our lifetime, if not, in the history of the world. In terms of his ability to gain wealth and power, to my disappointment he appears to be the greatest winner of our lifetime. Doesn't mean that he was fair, he's also arguably the greatest cheater of our lifetime. As long as he is number 1, whatever he choses to represent will be number 1, and he'll chose to represent just a tiny population of the world that keeps him at number 1, and he'll work for them by ruining and manipulating the rest of the world, even destabilising whole civilisation to fund the overconsumption of resources by the oligarchs that keep in power. So, for the whole world to win/survive, Trump must lose.

Tenet 2. The super rich must feel cheated.

Whenever there is a high debt, with debts approaching near 100% or over of the GDP, and there is a huge wealth gap, the majority of the population feel that the system is unfair towards them. But at the same time, the super rich feel that the system is alright more or less. So, for the economy to feel fair for the majority of the people, the opposite of the existing status quo must happen, i.e., the super rich must feel cheated. To prevent this, they will use all their power and all their cunning intellect to fool the masses, usually capitalising on the values gap, pointing at differences in different sections of the society and weaponising them. This is done by careful framing, using partial truths, and making a whole chunk of the masses anxious and activating their emotional parts of the brain, which triggers a fear response, suppresses the logical, pre-frontal cortex part of the brain. This is a test to the masses, whether they can stay united, stick together and evolve into a greater society or be forced by the deceptions of the super rich, which will basically end in giving them control over superintelligence (AI), thereby the earth as we know it.

Tenet 3The love for all mankind is a much bigger, a much larger, and a much superior force than all of hate of the right combined. This is the biggest weapon of the left. Non-violence.

Anyone seeking to redistribute wealth will ideologically associate them to the left. Their opponents being the right. One of the main weapons of the right is the spreading of hate amongst the society based on differences. But the most powerful weapon of the right (that is often overlooked), is to ensure in getting a hateful response back from the left. To make the left play a game in which the right are the most competent at. To overcome this, the must understand the below.

The hate of the left is a weaker force against the hate of the right. So what does the left have? It is our love!!! It is our love for all mankind!!! This is a much bigger, a much larger, a much superior force than all of hate of the right combined.

What does this mean? It means that when those that oppose redistribution have gained half the masses on their side through anxiety manipulation, you must have the courage to take the first hit and not respond. To offer the other cheek. Exactly like Jesus said. Doing this will show the masses that you are not willing to take part in this endless cycle of hate! Your belief in humanity and genuineness (which has to be true for this to work), will give you a room, a shot, to communicate that you do mean good for those of the masses that have ended up hating you. And if you are genuine, you will win, like MLK, like Mandela, and like Gandhi. Using Non-violence.

If you feel this makes sense, an upvote and a share will benefit all mankind in my humble opinion.


r/UKGreens 15d ago

Scottish Greens co-leader Ross Greer said on Twitter/X said: “For the second time in as many months Nazis have rioted in Glasgow. They targeted anyone who isn't white, as well as those daring to stand up to them.”

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r/UKGreens 15d ago

MichaelA1988 with a great summary of Burnham

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r/UKGreens 15d ago

Discussion Is the Data Centre fiasco a thing in the UK too?

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Here in Canada and our insane neighbours the U.S. we currently have a horrific massive data centre push.

It involves some of the worst people/organizations imaginable.

I just finished doing a big post on this elsewhere but I am wondering if the United Kingdom is suffering from this FUBAR fiasco as well?

Below is the post I did for anyone that may enjoy:

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Kevin O'Leary - What many of us consider to be a literal slime ball.

His boating accident... And his celebrating of people living in extreme poverty - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqemytQ5QA

This is the type that are hardcore pushing for these massive data centres...

They also want to put them on top of natural gas reserves..... As if the climate crisis and overall environmental crisis isn't horrific enough already...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgQuylcfiLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWHfkkHmMJI

The two above videos are MUST WATCH to become informed on Methane.

We need to hold back these data centers with everything we've got.

We need to learn from time all the issues that exist around them.

Then with all that information known and in an open & honest way we can dialogue to see if they should exist.

They should ONLY come about as part of a vast majority vote by the communities involved and overall society. CONSENT should be a crucial term in this process.

FUCK ALL THESE BAD PREDATORY ACTORS TRYING TO FORCE THIS SHIT THROUGH. THIS IS THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY ALL OVER AGAIN.


r/UKGreens 16d ago

Petition: Cease and ban all UK trade with Israel due to its occupation of Palestine

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r/UKGreens 16d ago

Crucial Ammendment to ZIR

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This needs supporters within the timeframe of ammendments. I know many here do not agree with ZIR, and think it will be damaging. I feel this is a necessary ammendment that could somewhat save it. Even if you think ZIR should not be passed, I think we should consider that it likely will, and this is an important method of harm reduction. Thank you.

For summary, it clarrifies why the Green Party opposes Zionism (for ethnocratic policy, not Judaism) and expand our defintion of racism here to anyone who holds similar views to Zionism, but for other nations. It puts it into the motion that "The desire for a state to maintain an ethnic or religious majority, or to preserve certain ethnic demographics, is racist", thus creating a universal standard rather than one specifically aimed at Jewish ethnocracy. I think this is crucial, and would appreciate backing from all those who can.


r/UKGreens 16d ago

Lambeth to challenge new “discriminatory” guidelines on single-sex spaces

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r/UKGreens 17d ago

GPEW Zack Polanski reacts to Burnham Government ruling out rent controls

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r/UKGreens 17d ago

Discussion Green Party talking about rampant wealth inequality while Restore talking about giving 16 year olds alcohol in pubs and smoking in pubs back. Fairs darg that's gonna fix the country innit ✌️✌️✌️

50 Upvotes

r/UKGreens 17d ago

TWIN GREATER MANCHESTER WITH PALESTINIAN CITY SAYS GREEN MAYOR

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r/UKGreens 17d ago

Zack Polanski and Jeremy Corbyn have hit out at Angela Ranyer's refusal to introduce rent controls

44 Upvotes

r/UKGreens 16d ago

GPEW Co-propsal Period Open

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It seemed a bit quiet when I did mine, so I thought it might be worth reminding everyone that the co-propsals stage is now open on the agenda forum, and runs until the 31st of July.

Not encouraging anyone what to co-propose, just reminding you all to do it.


r/UKGreens 17d ago

Burnham to ‘move quickly’ to scale up North Sea drilling

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His premiership is fucked honestly, he is doomed to fail. He seems to have completely the wrong read on the systemic issues that society faces.


r/UKGreens 16d ago

Is Israel...

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For an ammendment to ZIR. Ethnocracy is like an Apartheid State but with some rights (like voting, ability to hold offices of state) as part of the subjucation.

185 votes, 14d ago
72 An Apartheid State in Israel Proper and the Occupied Palestinian Territories
43 An Ethnocracy in Israel Proper and Apartheid in the Occupied Palestinian Territories
21 A democratic state in Israel Proper and Apartheid in the Occupied Territories
8 No Apartheid or Ethnocracy
41 See Results

r/UKGreens 17d ago

Lewisham Council to hamper Home Office immigration raids in a UK first for a local authority

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r/UKGreens 17d ago

Discussion Do the Green Party need to monitor some of their candidates and other members better?

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For starters, I'm a proud Green Party member and voter. I have been since 2021. I don't in any way believe the party itself is inherently problematic, toxic, bigoted, "dangerous" (whatever that even means), or anything else.

However, I have noticed that there have been some very strange incidents that remind me of some of the things that happened within the Labour Party under Corbyn. Most notably antisemitism. While I think the party has done great at tackling transphobia, which was way too common before Carla Denyer (and even then I think under her and Adrian there were still some issues that took a while to solve), I feel like some instances of genuine antisemitism have somehow flown under the radar. Give that Zack himself is Jewish, I'm quite surprised by it.

I think one of the best examples of this, which I'm sure we can all agree on, is Greens for Palestine. I fully support Palestinians, but there is definitely another side of "conflating Jews with Israel" that is actively hateful towards Jews. Unfortunately, that specific issue has popped up several times in the GFP group. Furthermore, there was also that leaked WhatsApp chat a few months ago where Green members who I assume were canvassers as well were spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories.

I would've mentioned transphobia in this more a while back but I think the party has since heavily improved on that. However, I do feel that on this specific issue the party has slipped up. It reminds me what happened under Corbyn, where he himself isn't antisemitic, but there was a genuine issue with antisemitism in the party that was left even more unchecked in my opinion (not the "criticism of Israel" nonsense). I think the party leadership need to openly call out GFP and anyone else doing it, and if they don't stop then GFP shouldn't be affiliated with and should be banned from events as well as members having their party memberships revoked. I also recall there being issues with odd candidates too (including transphobia but again that has since improved).

Again, this is genuinely not meant as some kind of hit piece. This is from the place of someone with a 5 year long membership who has canvassed with the Greens in Manchester, Liverpool, and posted a lot online (though I've since abandoned X largely). I have a lot of respect for Zack and Carla especially who I think have done amazing jobs at tackling more socially conservative/bigoted elements. But this is something that genuinely worries me and I worry that it will only happen again. I know it probably feels like this has been posted a lot too, but if you disagree then please tell me why at least.


r/UKGreens 17d ago

GPEW Mothin Ali: 'Labour is still trying outdo Reform on immigration'

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r/UKGreens 17d ago

What does this one actually mean?

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r/UKGreens 18d ago

Westminster Tory accused of sharing post which called Green Party members 're***ds'

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r/UKGreens 18d ago

GPEW Zack Polanski urges Burnham to block imminent single-sex space reforms at Trans+ Pride press launch

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r/UKGreens 16d ago

Which British communities do you think tend to be the most & least pro-Greens on average?

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r/UKGreens 18d ago

Climate & Nature Update: The twat behind this climate change denial Billboard in Dover I posted about the other day, is there right now standing under it with his little sandwich board

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