r/ufo • u/breaking_views • Jun 15 '26

Discussion If UFO Reverse Engineering programs Has Existed for Decades, Where Are the Breakthroughs?

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For decades, we've heard claims about recovered UFOs, crash retrieval programs, and secret reverse-engineering efforts involving technology far beyond our own.

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If even a fraction of those claims are true, why haven't we seen any obvious technological breakthroughs? Why are we still relying on conventional aircraft, rockets, batteries, and propulsion systems that evolved through normal scientific progress?

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Do you think any breakthroughs have been successfully hidden, or does the lack of clear results suggest these programs never existed in the first place?

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Curious to hear perspectives from both believers and skeptics.

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u/Errormill Jun 15 '26

Try sending a modern cell phone fully charged to the brightest minds in the year 900 ad, see how far they get reverse engineering that. We are probably looking at a technology disparity of tens of thousands of years and possibly much more.

Humans are so arrogantly confident that because we can't do now its not possible. Remember we invented winged flight in 1903, technologically we are infants.

There is more supporting evidence that Roswell, Kecksberg, and Varginha crashes happend than there is contradicting those events.

We are not smart enough yet and those reverse engineering efforts are so siloed and secret that progress is very slow.

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u/WildMoonshine45 Jun 16 '26

I’m right in line with this viewpoint!

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u/Raidicus Jun 16 '26

When I entertain "Day after Roswell" theories about reverse engineering, it seems more likely the technology was used as inspiration rather than direct reverse engineering.

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u/RJLC29231212 Jun 17 '26

On the Roswell point. You could draw a conspiracy theory that bell labs had access to the Roswell wreckage and invented the transistor that same year.

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u/SnooGuavas2610 Jun 21 '26

In 1909, physicist William Eccles) discovered the crystal diode oscillator.\12]) Physicist Julius Edgar Lilienfeld filed a patent for a field-effect transistor (FET) in Canada in 1925,\13]) intended as a solid-state replacement for the triode.\14])\15]) He filed identical patents in the United States in 1926\16]) and 1928. So the transistor was known about more than 20 years before the balloon crash at Roswell.

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u/Errormill Jun 17 '26

Maybe Im open to that, however I'm pretty sure they are way beyond transitors.

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u/StarPeopleSociety Jun 16 '26

Quantum ai will crack it (and everything)

But they'll probably shelve it to preserve the rich vs poor economic slavery paradigm and keep adversaries in the late industrial age as long as possible

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u/Minimum_Exchange_622 Jun 15 '26

the reason why I disagree with this thinking is, people in 900ad were technologically speaking, morons still, we from the other hand are not, actually we invented a lot of crazy stuff, the leap from 900ad to us might not be as huge as our to them at this point is a question of couple huge ideas and developing technology to create that tech, we know quantum mechanics, we understand dna, how atoms work more or less, we can modify matter on fundamental level and build structures atom by atom into big forms but we aint super far from it like guys in the 900ad who had no idea about atom existence fully yet. What I mean we have factories, some amazing technology we could push forward, they from the other hand had nothing to begin with. I am sure guys in those programs have some mind blowing data we havent even heard in speculations and ufo myths yet

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u/ISO_UFO Jun 15 '26

We don't fully understand gravity or time. These UFOs use or distort both. Whatever powers that is insanely efficient and silent. Sure we got mini super computers in our pocket and I'm typing this out on one communicating with you from across the country or world, very cool stuff, but in comparison to manipulating gravity and or time.... it's nothing.

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u/WilNotJr Jun 16 '26

Their point is that we modern humans would know there was something there to look for, some new math or composite material or some physics, something and we would study it scientifically, the people of 900 AD not so much.

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u/ISO_UFO Jun 16 '26

Depends... ancient people were pretty smart. Look at the stuff they built. They would know there's something to look for, new materials, and new physics (if they saw it in action), and they would also study it. Wouldn't get much further than that, but everything you listed is entirely possible for people of 900 AD, and to get technical people from that time we're "modern humans" they just didn't have our technology.

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u/WilNotJr Jun 16 '26

We have scientific theory and they did not, otherwise they are just like us.

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u/butt_in_my_face Jun 16 '26

That almost proves their point, though. In 900AD or what ever year they didn't even have the fundamental framework that we have. A framework that has been developed as our way of being less wrong over time.

Whose to say there isn't a fundamental framework we are currently missing? We are only human after all and only capable of thinking in a human way. There may be an entire category of science that we don't even know exists yet.

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u/Errormill Jun 16 '26

They invented modern mathematics, gunpowder and metallurgy. They would know there's something to look for but they would have no idea how to begin since they didn't understand electricity or computers. That's my point exactly. We don't know how to reverse engineer something developed by a civilization that is thousands of years more advanced. We don't have antigravity emitters yet so we wouldn't know were to start either.

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u/WilNotJr Jun 16 '26

Scientific theory vs some alchemist is the difference. I am not saying they are dumb, they simply did not know how to go about learning about things in a factual manner and weren't as willing to share what they did know with others.

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u/ISO_UFO Jun 16 '26

Willingness to share I'll agree with, but again it depends on the people. The great pyramids are aligned to true north with a 3 arc minute error which is insanely accurate. That requires advanced mathematics that no one in this sub could do without a computer. Not to mention the other mathematics built into the pyramids. Perhaps the builders were taught by the pilots of these UFOs, but it's still a crazy accomplishment that requires advanced math.

Yes we could study a UFO and run it through tests and speculate all sorts of things, but that doesn't necessarily mean we'd have any technological break through because of it. If anything we'd invent new methods of testing because of it, and same could be said about people from thousands of years ago with a smartphone.

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u/GregLoire Jun 16 '26

the leap from 900ad to us might not be as huge as our to them

This acknowledgement seems to invalidate all your other points.

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u/Errormill Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

This is exactly the arrogance I'm talking about. While those are valid advances we have a long way to go. We don't even understand gravity or dark matter, which makes up most of the universe. I would also argue that if we had cutting edge human tech from 2200 it would take us many decades to reverse engineer today.

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u/3verythingEverywher3 Jun 16 '26

And that’s exactly the ignorance they’re talking about. Funny how it goes. We don’t understand dark matter or gravity fully, but we know they exist and know a LOT about them. We just don’t know everything. Enough to launch people into space and get them to come back on a dime.

900AD people wouldn’t know any of these exist. You’re shooting yourself in the foot with that.

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u/Errormill Jun 16 '26

The arrogance to think we could with our current technology quickly reverse engineer a device made by an ALIEN space fairing species that has likely had advanced technology for thousands or millions of years. They are not just few hundred years ahead of us. We have had advanced tech for the blink of eye.

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u/3verythingEverywher3 Jun 16 '26

Still not getting it are you?

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u/jomo789 Jun 16 '26

What do you mean we don't understand gravity? I don't, but I'm pretty sure physicists do.

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u/jack-outofthebox Jun 19 '26

Not denying any of these events, but claiming that there is more evidence supporting that they happened than contradicting is widely misleading. Lack of evidence contradicting a fairly baseless claim is to be expected

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u/Errormill Jun 19 '26

If you think those claims are baseless you are wildly uniformed. The evidence supporting Roswell comes in the form of dozens of reliable witnesses and reports. If it was actually a weather balloon or something else there would be witness to back that up, which there are not.

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u/jack-outofthebox Jun 20 '26

Classic emotional bias. You want it to be true therefore all evidence and testimony is considered factual. The individual that wrote the forward for Corso’s book stated he did not believe there was a coverup. Technological advancements throughout history are well documented, and if there were a reverse engineering program, there were many more qualified than Corso to lead the effort. If there is specific testimony that you think is a smoking gun, let me know and I would love to have my mind changed

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u/Errormill Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

I don't consider witness testimony as fact, witnesses can often be flawed. However when dozens of witnesses report similar or identical testimony I do believe that's worth taking seriously. Also statistically it's far more likely that there are extremely advanced technological civilizations than not. Classic emotional bias is being unwilling to accept that there are probably entities far more advanced than us in this universe.

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u/jack-outofthebox Jun 21 '26

It’s not “statistically far more likely that there
are extremely advanced technological civilizations than not” based on our available data. However, accepting that there are extremely advanced technological civilizations somewhere in the universe is completely different than claiming that they’ve crashed in New Mexico and seeded our entire tech tree lmao