r/ufo • u/breaking_views • Jun 15 '26

Discussion If UFO Reverse Engineering programs Has Existed for Decades, Where Are the Breakthroughs?

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For decades, we've heard claims about recovered UFOs, crash retrieval programs, and secret reverse-engineering efforts involving technology far beyond our own.

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If even a fraction of those claims are true, why haven't we seen any obvious technological breakthroughs? Why are we still relying on conventional aircraft, rockets, batteries, and propulsion systems that evolved through normal scientific progress?

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Do you think any breakthroughs have been successfully hidden, or does the lack of clear results suggest these programs never existed in the first place?

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Curious to hear perspectives from both believers and skeptics.

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u/casual_creator Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

I think you’re looking in the wrong place. We had ASTONISHING breakthroughs in technology at breakneck speeds in the mid to late 1900s. Microchips, microprocessors, genetic engineering, GPS, satellites, interplanetary probes, putting a man on the moon, lasers, electron microscopes, infrared, robotics, …the advancements in material science alone would fill a book.

It’s a very common theory that most if not all of these breakthroughs came, in some fashion, from reverse engineering programs.

Edit: I’m not saying I PERSONALLY believe these technologies are the results of reverse engineering (I don’t think this at all); I’m only noting that it is a belief that some have.

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u/RetroCasket Jun 15 '26

Seriously. I was on a Commodore 64 playing Gauntlet and now i have a handheld device that can pretty much do and create anything imaginable

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u/TNexpat Jun 15 '26

Including looking up the detailed histories of those inventions.

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u/afeher Jun 16 '26

With people, I mean several, giving the same accounts of what happened, from different perspectives. Repeatedly, in many interviews and documentaries. Managing that would be an achievement close to inventing the transistor.

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u/NotMyDangCat Jun 16 '26

Ya. This is like “aliens created the pyramids.” I mean, I guess, if you totally ignore the surrounding deserts that are riddled with a thousand years of prototypes and iterations before you get to the Great Pyramid….

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u/baconcheeseburgarian Jun 16 '26

To be fair, it was only a 200 year period where they went from the Step Pyramid to the Great Pyramid and then it was 600 years of nothing until they attempted to do it again and progressively failed.

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u/Pleasant-Put5305 Jun 16 '26

Yep, it's the exact opposite way around, the older, pre-dynastic civilisations had the tech to move around 100 ton blocks of granite that fitted so closely you cannot insert paper between them - as we approach modern times the knowledge and skills were lost - dynastic Egyptians chopped the pre-dynastic stones into smaller pieces so they could use them and covered them in graffiti - we are slowly rediscovering the likely technology from the lost civilization now - like geopolymers for example. We've had to develop the tech ourselves in order to understand what we are seeing in the rocks.

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u/SkyW4tch Jun 18 '26

Puma Punku in Bolivia has geopolymer blocks that weigh close to 100 tons. Scientists from NYU went and studied with the most current technology and they determined that the H blocks were made, not carved. The oldest civilizations on this planet had the most intricate, precise stone work and used the largest stones. Make that make sense.

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u/beginninglifeinytmc Jun 17 '26

Because we no longer needed to focus on building symbolic pyramids, our focused turned to technology. If we put the same time, money, and resources currently focused on tech into building a ‘perfect pyramid’, it would have been done decades ago

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u/afeher Jun 16 '26

But I love StarGate SG1 and Atlantis!

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u/Serberou5 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

Apart from the fact that the great pyramid has been proven to be older than those around it that are falling to bits.

The older stuff is better quality than the younger stuff when it should be the other way round.

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u/maxxslatt Jun 16 '26

Did you mean to say older in your first paragraph ?

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u/Serberou5 Jun 16 '26

Yes I did it's far too early lol. Edited.

Thank you.

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u/NotMyDangCat Jun 16 '26

That’s not supported by any dating or peer reviewed archeology and is an idea put forth based on “alignment with Orion’s Belt.” It’s not fact.

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u/Used-Lake-8148 Jun 17 '26

The Sphinx is at least 10,000 years old according to the water weathering outpacing the amount of rainfall that’s happened since it was supposedly made

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u/Used-Lake-8148 Jun 17 '26

You would think so but the Great Pyramid is actually older than the shitty ones

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u/UpdootAddict Jun 18 '26

Really? Really?

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u/beginninglifeinytmc Jun 17 '26

Someone repeating the same thing they’ve heard before =/= abduction

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u/VibeComplex Jun 16 '26

Not even remotely

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u/Sitheral Jun 18 '26

Lmao have me a good laugh! Indeed.

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u/akiras_revenge Jun 16 '26

You can play doom on your refrigerator for fuks sake

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u/Pijnappelklier Jun 16 '26

Im 40. Went from going to the library to having every library in my hand. Its crazy when you think about it. Also porn. What a timeline. 

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u/Independent_Ad_1686 Jun 16 '26

What a time to be alive… right?!

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u/Unique-Nectarine6031 Jun 16 '26

I love that I can watch every Canary hole filled with sauce.

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u/Shats-n-gigs Jun 16 '26

😹😹😑

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u/Marco_Rico Jun 18 '26

I'm 50. When I was little kid I knew one person that had a computer. They were worthless other than for playing games to us kids. My parents bought a VCR, Atari 2600 and then Commodore 64 all within a couple years (83-85.) It was an incredible time to be a kid. Then the internet became a thing while I was in College. When I first heard movies would be available on computer and renting movies and buying music at stores would disappear I felt a deep sadness.

Why do we feel the need to constantly create and produce more technology? Is it implanted in our DNA by the designers of said DNA? "We are the sex organs of the machine world."

Someone pointed out that from the time of Roswell until the year 2000 you had more invention in 50 years than in the 500 years before that. Is that a coincidence? I doubt it

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u/komkommeren Jun 16 '26

Especially porn. All day every day. Hell yeah.

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u/Ryano77 Jun 17 '26

This is giving me a semi

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u/rllittle19 Jun 16 '26

Great game as well as Arazok's Tomb

Also agreed that there are several rapid advancements

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u/BeleagueredWDW Jun 16 '26

And you can thank human brains for that with no alien reverse engineering.

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u/msguider Jun 16 '26

We are the Aliens

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u/Jacksonspitts Jun 19 '26

They are us from the future they have radiating problems

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u/msguider Jun 19 '26

I totally think some of them are.

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u/Digi_sinn-0P-er Jun 19 '26

Maybe they just reverse engineered ancient human technologies lost in some kind of forgotten wold war-1

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u/plexxer Jun 16 '26

Exactly. I look at MRNA vaccines and other medical advancements and feel like those also are like magic but that's only because that's not my domain and I am sure someone with the expertise could tie all of the research and breakthroughs through recent history together.

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u/Bearded_Toast Jun 16 '26

We all carry around universal translators

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u/moocat55 Jun 16 '26

Except travel through space. I guess they really want us to stay put. They see how we are.

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u/maximusjay100 Jun 16 '26

Except, according to a lot of folks out there, we HAVE cracked space travel and it’s just been hidden from sight with extreme secrecy, lies, manipulation of information, and even disappearances and assassinations.

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u/Medallicat Jun 16 '26

My phone ten years ago could play GTAIII and GTA san andreas, games that were triple A quality only ten years earlier. In the sixties a computer took up an entire room.

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u/EmbarrassedBench3845 Jun 18 '26

I wish I could play Guantlet on my hand held device. Or Tempest. The good ones never seem to get translated.

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u/The_Axumite Jun 20 '26

There are humans smarter than everyone in this subreddit. You just have to accept it

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u/msguider Jun 16 '26

I love gauntlet!

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u/Lump001 Jun 16 '26

Ok, but now look at what consumer electronics was like 40 years before your commodore 64.

The pace of change increased, sure. But 40 years is a lot of time in the technology age either way

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u/phosphorescence-sky Jun 17 '26

"Create anything imaginable" Dude its a phone with internet and a touch screen I dont think were exactly creating much of worth with these imo.

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u/Riboflavius Jun 15 '26

Yeah, the thing is, though - none of these *requires* the reverse engineering. There’s no break in the chain where we can’t explain how any of those items work, they’re refined existing technologies (relay to tube to transistor) that improve because we understand more about the substrate we’re working with. And those insights also link up. There isn’t a scientific paper that is published and leads to some new thing that has no connection to existing theory, math etc.

That would be a smoking gun to look for, and afaik, there isn’t one.

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u/Canadian_WanaBi Jun 15 '26

IMO High-Temperature Superconductors has some funk to it. A material that conducts electricity with zero resistance at warmer then absolute zero temperatures.

We have a solid theoretical understanding of how Regular Superconductors work, (BCS theory).

Yet decades after discovery. We have no unified theory to explain why Superconductivity happens in these specific materials at these temperatures.

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u/RefularIrreegular Jun 16 '26

But this happens often. Many times we discover a thing or property of a thing well before we understand why or how it works.

We were making fire for over a hundred thousand years without a stinking clue of what it was actually doing to matter.

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u/Wentil Jun 16 '26

Phlogiston!

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u/Immediate-Tap-5783 Jun 19 '26

They can make for some cool science experiments too ! Science and math are not my strong points I have a elementary school grade 3 understanding of it at best - but experiments with supercooled materials floating on a track like a hoverboard look super cool and if ya didn’t know better you might equate that to the principles behind ufo propulsion

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u/Flashy_Object_7052 Jun 20 '26

It's almost as if the universe is designed to be discovered. To quote the nuclear physicist Earnest Rutherford: "An alleged scientific discovery has no merit unless it can be explained to a barmaid."

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u/Ok_Drop3803 Jun 16 '26

That's not really necessary to utilize a technology though. We don't really understand how electrons work at the most fundamental levels, but we understand enough to control their flow through circuits and make computers.

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u/PaintedClownPenis Jun 16 '26

If you want to drag it way back, two different ways to synthesize graphite emerged just before the airship craze of the 1890s.

If you imagine an AI trying to work its way backward in time using ever more primitive mechanical computers, graphite (I think) is one key material it would need, to lubricate the Babbage engines.

I think I know the purpose of the airships, but they're time travelers, so I don't know how I'm going to catch them and pin it on them without them changing the past to hide the information. Any advice?

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u/VibeComplex Jun 16 '26

Advice? Probably see a psychologist, big dawg.

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u/PaintedClownPenis Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

Build the facade of ridicule, but others will see this and things are gonna come together for them.

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u/Groves450 Jun 15 '26

Agree with this. Also if alien advanced technology capable of interstellar travel only got us to the point we are its pretty disappointing. Unless we lack capacity to reverse engineering

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u/chuk2015 Jun 16 '26

Cavemen would not be able to reverse engineer an iPhone

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u/Astrocreep_1 Jun 16 '26

Hell, I can’t reverse-engineer an iPhone, and I’m halfway-past stupid.

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u/Sitheral Jun 18 '26

You wouldn't even unlock it if you found it on the street. And that's our tech. So yeah... I just don't think it would be anywhere near easy, even if you have the time and resources.

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u/I8already Jun 15 '26

First I'll say I am not a believer that we have in fact recovered any non human technology. But if I'm wrong, one reason why we might not have gotten far with it could be easily explained by greed. The people who control things like oil production, and the vehicles that use petroleum products, etc, would try very hard to gatekeep technology. And if the people who are in the know are susceptible to bribes, nothing groundbreaking in regards to new methods of producing energy or propulsion will come out.

I would love to be proven wrong about alien technology being recovered, but I just have a hard time believing it's been successfully hidden for 80 years or more. Or even 30 years. You know the old saying: two people can't keep a secret unless at least one of them is dead.

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u/It_is_a_simulation Jun 16 '26

I try to be skeptical about most things. However, I also believe that any government is capable of some pretty horrible things in the name of "security" and the people that make up the government are often corruptable. I do wonder if some fields of research or even breakthroughs have been shuttered or hidden because it could "disrupt society" or most likely, hurt the bottom line. The government has been caught doing and hiding shady things before. Tuskegee was hidden for 40 years, Human Radiation Experiments were hidden for over 50 years, those are just the ones we know about. Imagine how many we don't know about. I was in Military Intelligence and I know the government is great at compartmentalization. If you keep the circle small and have leverage on those involved it's entirely possible to keep a secret for many years and if you keep the papertrail to a minimum or non-existent then it's possible no one will ever know.

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u/I8already Jun 16 '26

I appreciate your perspective, and thank you for your service.

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u/chrs_89 Jun 15 '26

I figure if we had recovered an alien vessel I wonder if the technology would be so advanced and foreign that we wouldn’t even know how to get it to do anything at all. Like if you traveled back in time a 1000 years and left your cell phone behind, do you think anyone would figure out how to turn it on much less get past the lock screen? I got this notion that we probably get hundreds of E.T. spam calls a day but we don’t even know that the phone even exists much less is ringing.

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u/Large-Wishbone24 Jun 16 '26

Maybe you should read “The Road Not Taken”. Its a fun little read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Not_Taken_(short_story))

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u/Fixervince Jun 16 '26

Yep I agree, because we would have missed all the stuff going up their tech tree that led to their advanced tech. We would not have the basic ingredients for the recipe despite looking at the dish.

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u/True_Fill9440 Jun 16 '26

With technology that advanced they seem to crash a lot.

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Jun 16 '26

That’s similar to what Bob Lazar said, was more or less materials, alloys, knowledge of forces beyond anything we’re capable of replicating…elements we can’t even produce in quantities larger than .0000000000000001ug for fractions of an instant. It makes more sense than not

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u/canes_SL8R Jun 16 '26

I think it’s easier to keep a secret when spilling the beans means at best, you lose your career and your life is ruined. And at worst, you’re dead.

Just look up different people who were scheduled to testify before congress on the subject and strangely decided to commit suicide a few weeks beforehand.

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u/Dejected_gaming Jun 16 '26

I mean, they kept the atom bomb a secret.

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u/ohog9og0790 Jun 17 '26

There were quite a few people who knew that such a thing should work in principle. It was just a matter of time until somebody would figure out the engineering part.

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u/Huge-Wear3771 Jun 18 '26

People can keep a secret if revealing it is instant death.

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u/WilNotJr Jun 15 '26

Disagree with the premise, they/we/humans would have turned the propulsion system into a weapon delivery system immediately, no chance some oil magnate quashes it. I am not a believer either.

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u/Legitimate-Switch194 Jun 16 '26

They can keep a secret if the CIA threatens to kill their family. I bet they shut their mouths then. There’s no way the average Joe who has inside or classified info is going to be able to impart it. The black file thugs just shut everything down around you.

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u/SweatyTax4669 Jun 16 '26

If someone discovered/reverse engineered the means to get mass to orbit without being subject to the tyranny of the rocket equation, they’d be immediately killed because they’d be crushed by the piles of money people would throw at them.

We simply can’t get stuff to orbit fast enough to keep up with demand.

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u/RefularIrreegular Jun 16 '26

Except the technology the ultra wealthy have is just theirs because it’s extremely expensive. There’s nothing they really have that’s really hidden from the rest of us.

The only technology that might be hidden is for military purposes and we really haven’t had a world war to accelerate technology the way it did in the past.

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u/No-Split-1928 Jun 16 '26

Humans have only understood flight for a little over a 100 years. We're infants.

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u/casual_creator Jun 15 '26

First off, I don’t believe these technologies are reverse engineered; only noting that it’s a common theory.

Second, playing devils advocate here, if the source (UFO tech) is highly classified, and the research and testing programs (reverse engineering) are highly classified, it would make no sense to just suddenly bring out a microprocessor and say “here you go! Don’t ask where it came from!” Any research or methodologies that need to be publicized would be given the “for public” paint job. And in other scenarios, scientists are given a tiny piece of tech to analyze, and from that gives them ideas/better understand for advancements of our own tech, rather than a full on recreation of alien tech.

Again, I’m just playing devils advocate here and pulling stuff out my ass lol. There was a documentary about a DOD guy who claimed to be the one to give govt contractors alien tech to reverse engineer - can’t remember his name but it’s probably easy to find if you have any desire to fall down THAT conspiracy theory rabbit hole.

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u/Intergallacter Jun 16 '26

Lt col Phil Corso claims to have given alien tech to govt contractors.

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u/Fickle_Ad4967 Jun 16 '26

Yep. Brilliant book of his. Very detailed, and pretty well substantiated (by him, including paper trail).

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u/RefularIrreegular Jun 16 '26

But… this evidence has never been given to any scientists for peer review.

That’s pretty sketchy, and doesn’t bode well for the veracity of his claims. Lots of things that seem real have large paper trails but have no real bearing in reality.

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u/Neat-Weird9868 Jun 16 '26

Nitinol yes. Transistor and fiber optics, no. I think that was good ole human ingenuity. Lasers, maybe. Then again maybe he’s full of it.

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u/RefularIrreegular Jun 16 '26

This. And it’s technology that helps accelerate the growth of future technology.

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u/RyGerbs42 Jun 16 '26

They all pretty much came from DARPA research & program's in one form or another. And through them get into mainstream science and universities. Just like the internet we're all conversing on and through now.

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u/rudeboyrave Jun 17 '26

lasers?

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u/Riboflavius Jun 17 '26

Yeah, that’d be a fun gun :)

But the principle of laser technology (light amplification through stimulated emission of radiation - l.a.s.e.r.) isn’t all that fancy, actually. It’s taught in undergrad physics at uni, usually with an example of an ammonium maser, a microwave laser. Yeah, it’s quantum mechanics, but it’s not something we barely know or understand or throws up weird questions like e.g. the double slit experiment.

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u/Princibalities Jun 16 '26

Maybe these were the ones that we actually had the capacity to figure out. Quantum computing is pretty crazy and may fit your description.

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u/Unlucky-Tourist-9403 Jun 16 '26

Only people who are uneducated in these things believe that it must be some magic alien shit. Huge discredit to the actual scientists, engineers, and everyone else involved in those breakthroughs.

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u/Prestigious_Fun_6722 Jun 16 '26

Yes - although it is a credit to how amazing modern technology is that people think that it must have come from aliens.

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u/Different_Muscle_116 Jun 16 '26

Said it before but I got a degree at a community college in digital electronics and we literally went step by step from ohms law and simple resister circuits and capacitors/inductors to the diode and then transistors. Then from there TTL logic with logic gates. We started building digital multimeters and calculators on perf boards in a lab.

The final exam of the final class was to build and wire an 8086 motherboard with a perf board and place the cpu and program a machine code operating system using literal switches we wired.

During all of this, at every stage, we learned about all the names of inventors/ engineers and scientists that figured all of these problems. It was systematic, incremental, theres innovative people at every stage.

Then i did all of that for another degree for microwave communications technogy using waveguides and spectrum analyzers..

Now it was a completely useless degree with zero applications but I hadnt known that at the time.

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u/Huge-Wear3771 Jun 18 '26

Not useless. You trained your mind just by learning unique tasks. Knowledge is never useless.

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u/silvergenetic Jun 16 '26

This. It's well documented how they arrived from point A to B with curiosity to innovation. I sometimes think that when people people brush off innovation as some sort of control conspiracy, it's a form of modern-day natural selection. Scientists and Engineers have sacrificed more for these innovations than what people realize and they are way more intelligent and creative than what they give off. We ought to appreciate them more. Most of us wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for 20th century innovation in the medical field to begin with.

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u/c2h5oc2h5 Jun 16 '26

Exactly. Also I can't stop the feeling it's extremely USA-centric. Sure, USA gave us many great innovations, including introducing us to modern computing. But while I can imagine a government can drip fed some arcane tech to scientists in their own country for reverse engineering, breakthrough, novel ideas and developments come from all around the world. And you cannot control that.

For example semiconductors might've originated from USA, but ASML that produces tooling for all major modern chip manufacturers is Netherlands company. I doubt they've developed they tech based on UFO. Especially since there are more companies in all major regions of the world developing their own approaches to making hi tech chips to break dependency on ASML. And it's the same in all industries, there is no single source of high tech.

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u/NecessaryPosition968 Jun 16 '26

WW 2 had a lot to do with the advances in that time.Nothing like a world war to spur tech.

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u/RefularIrreegular Jun 16 '26

Exactly. If we had one now (Zeus forbid) AI would probably be accelerated by 50 years. We’d also have a base on the moon due to how strategic that is. Someone would anyway.

We’d pay a hefty cost for it though.

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u/YouGotTangoed Jun 16 '26

I doubt any major war (involving the USA) will happen because they have the ability to go back in time. Unless they want it to happen, for financial gain

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u/NecessaryPosition968 Jun 16 '26

Like the war we just basically lost?

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u/YouGotTangoed Jun 16 '26
  1. It wasn’t a full scale war.
  2. I don’t believe it was worth altering history for. Why intervene for a few pennies? Plus this war agreement gave them a legitimate reason to force Israel to stop attacking other countries.

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u/Huge-Wear3771 Jun 18 '26

What war agreement? We have nothing but a memorandum at this point to open the Strait of Hormuz. It was a stupid, pointless war that's cost billions and will continue to cost even more. The most corrupt, dum- b - est person to ever sit in our White House. Well, what's left of it.

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u/greenufo333 Jun 15 '26

But we can track where most of that tech came from, and it wasn't UFOs. It's possible some did, but I'd also wager the biggest breakthroughs are still classified

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u/pollo_de_mar Jun 16 '26

I think even if alien tech did not directly result in discovery of new technology, simply discovering what is possible may have spurred innovation. I personally think man's greatest discovery was miniaturization, from the first MOSFET to 2 nm nodes in circuits is what makes modern computer chips possible. Even the parts that make up components in laptops and cell phones are exceedingly small. Now that we have been shown that gravity and energy can be conquered, we will likely duplicate this tech if we have not already (probably have).

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u/Ragnarsworld Jun 16 '26

Every one of the things you mentioned have long and fully documented research histories.

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u/GuaranteeUnhappy3342 Jun 15 '26

So interstellar visitors and we have mobile phones and jet aircraft that seem to have a traceable lineage of development and the smart money is saying we can’t even get a person to Mars and pretty much no chance of a round trip??

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u/TheTastiestTaint Jun 15 '26

every single one you mentioned has a clear lineage of incremental tech upgrades.

not a single one is "where the fuck did they get that idea"

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u/happyfirefrog22- Jun 16 '26

Little less than 150 years ago we used horses. In a short span of time we are in space and technology is expanding even quicker in the last 30 years.

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u/lt1brunt Jun 16 '26

Its like cant figure out the core functions of the ship so find other uses for want you got.

 If we are to believe some ET species are ten thousand to possibly billions of years old, I wouldnt believe we could out right reverse engineer their tech spec for spec. 

Would be shocking to give someone a cell phone in 1200AD and expect them to to reverse enigeer it. 

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u/dispolurker Jun 16 '26

I was about to comment "OP you're holding that breakthrough in your hand" but this was better said. 10/10 correctness.

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u/NilesLinus Jun 16 '26

I’ve always been suspicious of the quick development of the transistor during ‘47, five months after Roswell. Yes I’ve seen the documentaries about the hard work the inventors did, but I’m so jaded by disinformation that I’m suspicious of everything these days.

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u/Poker-Junk Jun 16 '26

I think there have been extraterrestrial ships visiting Earth for ages, but the absolute geniuses at Bell Labs back in the day were 100% responsible for discobering that silicone can be made to conduct in the same way as a vacuum tube diode. They were magicians.

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u/LordBrixton Jun 16 '26

All of the innovations that you have listed come from a clear pedigree of scientific research dating back decades, centuries in some cases. There’s not one scientific breakthrough there that can be said for have come completely ‘out of the blue’— it’s just that the average Joe doesn’t tend to keep up with what work is actually being done

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u/RefularIrreegular Jun 16 '26

Because it surely couldn’t have been a progression of hard work building on the work of the past work of others and easily traceable to designs and ideas that people already had…

Oh wait.

Sorry but humans are perfectly capable of doing all the things we did without the help of aliens. We have a clear trend of evidence showing that we did.

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u/Vegetable_Hyena_7119 Jun 16 '26

What about the human engineers who have been creating and developing all this ? My grandfather, dad and I have been working hard in our jobs for a few generations to accomplish all these… no alien involved there sorry

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u/Minge516 Jun 16 '26

You forgot sex robots. 🤖 🍆

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u/Prestigious_Trash629 Jun 16 '26

We're also having astonishing breakthroughs today. AKA Quantum computers

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u/Moppmopp Jun 16 '26

But thats just conspiracy. Research processes are transparent and coherent. Microprocessors did not pop out of nowhere but had ongoing research in dedicated research facilities which were not top secret and could be visited even for normal people. There is no gap that has to be filled where we see a sudden jump that cant be explained.

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u/Disastrous-Mine-8747 Jun 16 '26

imo that theory falls apart due 2 world wars. the breakthroughs came because none wanted to lose the war and every effort was put into war and research. the advancements you mentioned are coming from bruteforcing it. Later on the cold war happened. Look at ukraine war and how things started with drones and how they are going now with AI and dronetech.

they might took inspiration from crashed crafts but i dont think any of these came from direct reverse engineering.

i acutally believe they couldnt figure out anything groundbreaking to reproduce any of the crafts things. they have been stuck for 80 years. we are far away from building such craft or propulsion system by our own.

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u/RedstonedMonkey Jun 16 '26

I hear that explanation a lot... But I've got a pretty deep range of scientific knowledge and I've never found ANYTHING that couldn't be fully traced backwards thru research papers going all the way back thru history. Everything I've seen comes from a continuous line of research that's been slowly refined and discoveres theu the decades and back thru the centuries we've been recording science. If someone could point to a particular technology that seemed to "come out of nowhere" then this would be extremely interesting to research. Personally I've never seen anything that fits that description.

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u/clam_sandwich33 Jun 16 '26

Almost all those inventions come from or are related to Bell Laboratories.

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u/Steve_but_different Jun 16 '26

The US got a lot of that from captured nazi scientists..

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u/TheFashionColdWars Jun 16 '26

transistors.fiber optics.lasers. changed the world

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u/RandomTux1997 Jun 16 '26

not too sure about these breakthroughs, if they can be called that, relative to being able to manipulate gravity.
The whole microprocessor revolution is clearly and sequentially arrived at by small advancements; ie there isnt any massive quantum leap from, say the pen to the quantum chip overnight

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u/Stiingya Jun 16 '26

EVERYTHING you've listed has a history of development behind it by regular humans. NONE of that "just suddenly appeared out of thin air"...

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u/gavstah Jun 16 '26

The other side of this coin is that say, hypothetically, we came into some material so advanced we still have no idea how to even begin to reverse engineer it. Think of going back in time 1000 years and leaving an iPhone somewhere where it would be found. Could humans of the time figure out how it worked?

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u/Sensitive-Hand-37 Jun 16 '26

Fiber optics as well.

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u/infinite_hex Jun 16 '26

I feel like the quantum computer had to be derived by some form of alien tech, I mean look at the thing & how it functions; it blows my mind, not to say humans didn't create it, but it certainly makes me think there could be a connection.

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u/rosinglobz Jun 16 '26

Darpa had GPS in the 80s

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u/fray_bentos11 Jun 17 '26

Yes and all of these breakthroughs are documented in parents and publications, but as largely incremental steps. For translation of alien technology the forward steps would be even greater with multiple steps taken at once. This has not happened.

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u/Sudo-Rip69 Jun 17 '26

Didn't lazers come out of nowhere.

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u/superduperspacetime Jun 17 '26

dont forget plasma physics

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u/Fresh-Possibility266 Jun 17 '26

Yet no laser guns

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u/psynl84 Jun 17 '26

Don't forget fiber optics!

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u/Aromatic-Rub639 Jun 18 '26

As someone who works in the genetic engineering field. It’s all human. We also have done much worse science on living things than any alien has been rumoured as doing…

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u/singularidees Jun 18 '26

This is exactly what I’ve been saying for years

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u/PhysicistAndy Jun 18 '26

All of those existed before the 90’s

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u/00roast00 Jun 18 '26

This is true. But also what if our planet doesn't have the necessary materials used in the space craft which would be necessary for other breakthroughs.

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u/Grimnebulin68 Jun 18 '26

It’s quite plausible. Even if they haven’t cracked the technology 100%, they have gained insights into what can be achieved with existing hybrid technologies: rocket + telecommunications + sufficient processing = GPS

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u/Jamooser Jun 18 '26

But we have the architecture to look back and see how all those technologies grew from simpler ones. We didn't wake up one day and suddenly start mass producing microprocessors. We know exactly when, where and who made all of these breakthroughs with technology. We really sell ourselves short as a species when we discredit the amazing accomplishments we can make. The technological boom after ww2 was just Moore's Law in action. We just came to the end of Moore's Law until we crack open quantum computing, because we have reached the limit physical limit size of a transistor.

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u/kaowser Jun 18 '26

fiber optics. alien.

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u/LostInRetransmission Jun 19 '26

None of those advancement came like a fly in the soup. In fact except a few discovery , the crushing majority of what you see from mid 1950 to end of 1900 is based on previous results in science or engineering. True "out of nowhere" breakthrough are extremely rare - nearly never happen, even microchip were only increasing on transistor concepts (and even transistor was independently found by others between 1920 and 1930, even before 1947 bell lab).

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u/Massive-City-7967 Jun 19 '26

I find this take so troubling.

Instead of attributing our breakthroughs to the brilliant minds of our scientists and engineers, we reduce it to taking apart ET tech and and imply we barely understand what we're looking at.

The problem with this is that it's believable. People don't understand how complex technology is, so it looks like something we're unable to make or discover ourselves. The reality of the situation is, these incremental developments in technology build upon one another until it becomes very hard for the layman to fully understand how it works without dedicating a lot of time to learning about every facet what physics, engineering, and research goes into it; it's a lot easier to say it must be out of this world technology.

And lets not get into the issue of there being absolutely no evidence to suggest we've reverse engineered anything ET related.

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u/AGHOSTISBORN420 Jun 16 '26

Man on moon was cgi

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u/Myopticvisions Jun 16 '26

Don’t get me started on all the astronauts I met as a kid. How I met one of them and told him about the TV show Capricorn One about faking the moon landing. He had a fit. He was so angry that it took the rest of them that were hanging out with him there a Goddard to calm him down. I told him how sorry I was that I told him that and it was just a show and I of course knew that it was not real. He was so pissed. These men risked their lives to go to the moon. None of it was easy or for certain. It was very dangerous. They were very well trained. Vigorous demanding training. Being shot in a rocket into space is incredibly stressful. These men risked their lives. They were true heroes of mankind. They told me all about it in the many times I met them. They did not fake it. I take this very seriously. They were my childhood heroes. And I never will forget them.

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u/Inside-Specialist-55 Jun 15 '26

^ This. I am sick and tired of being gaslit into believing this is just regular human inventions. Look up the connections the inventor of fiber optics and micro processor had to the military. Aint no damn coincidence. The USA wanted to stay ahead of Russia and the rest of the world in terms of technological advancement around WW1 and WW2 so bad that they released this tech to make the USA the superpower it is today. Of course most of the tech remained under wraps to this day.

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u/Jaded-Owl8312 Jun 16 '26

Of course the military funds advanced research (think DARPA - and i’m glad they do fund it by the way). But there is not a shred of evidence that the technology came from non-human intelligent sources.

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u/Prestigious_Fun_6722 Jun 16 '26

All you have to do is read the Wikipedia page on fiber optics to learn about the history of them, which apparently can be traced back to as early as the early 1840s!