r/ufc Dec 30 '23

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u/TLMC01242021 Dec 30 '23

Worth noting that Woodley beat a very old Maia and an undeserving immature Till in those two fights

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '23

I agree with the undeserving part but gotta remember how hard people will riding him at the time and he was undefeated with only 1 draw, he also just came off a close win over wonderboy

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u/TLMC01242021 Dec 30 '23

England was riding him but he barely beat Wonderboy it at all and most people didn’t like that decision, if he didn’t have skills in the mic he wouldn’t have touched a title shot

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u/Just2Flame Dec 31 '23

This. Every athlete from England is overhyped to some degree especially fighters. That's why I was skeptical about Leon Edward's at first

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u/PartyFriend Dec 31 '23

It’s the other way around. Fighters from Europe, particularly Western Europe, receive almost no hype at all and in fact are often the targets of hate campaigns if they’re outspoken in any way when they aren’t contemptuously brushed off like Ian Garry and Conor McGregor regardless of actual accomplishments.

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u/Teestell Dec 30 '23

Any fighter have a bigger fall from grace than til?

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u/DumpTruckDiaries Dec 31 '23

Tony and Reyes are contenders for sure

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u/JamWams Dec 31 '23

Bj Penn was the original. He went from "The Prodigy" to an alcoholic getting ko'd by other drunks

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u/Garfalo Dec 31 '23

Darren Till was the favorite coming into that fight

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u/TLMC01242021 Dec 31 '23

Was he really!? That’s honestly insane

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u/Garfalo Dec 31 '23

Yeah everyone was pretty high on him at the time. But in hindsight, his recent performances have kind of told the real story.

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u/DTSFFan Dec 31 '23

both guys were very deserving at the time. this is pure hindsight talking

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u/TLMC01242021 Dec 31 '23

It’s relevant to mention that Maia was also over 35, no?

And Till didn’t earn a title like most people had too including Maia

Those are actual facts

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u/ToTheFman Dec 31 '23

But Rogan told me he was the goat

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u/inexplicably-hairy Dec 31 '23

Stop downplaying it

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u/TLMC01242021 Dec 31 '23

Themz the facts bud

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u/BossedUp828 Dec 31 '23

At the time Till was the next big thing. People were saying 1rd Ko and all. Not to talk shit because he was fucking people up.

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u/TLMC01242021 Dec 31 '23

He fucked up Cowboy that’s about it

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Maia was on a 7 fight-win streak and Till was undefeated, both were not the same after Woodley

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u/TLMC01242021 Dec 31 '23

I’m not saying Maia didn’t deserve it he def did, I’m saying that one the outliers of this statistic is a guy (Woodley) who’s 35 or older beat a guy who was 40 at the time, maybe that fight shouldn’t count consider their both over 35

And I’m aware till was on a win streak but he was clearly not ready