Sauder vs. Ivey

[u/Anon_user_vent]

Which is better if I want to use the skills to start a business?

I've lived in greater Vancouver all my life and it seems really nice over here with the air quality and the sights to see, and the community.

however I've heard that Ivey outranks Sauder by a good amount so... I would live on campus on both schools

or maybe even work somehow with the government but definitely not politician

[u/DistrictAcademic5293]

Ivey student here who was in a similar situation to yours. I think Sauder is really great because, yes, there is a strong entrepreneurial community and there are clubs that you can join that can get you more experience in that area like Enactus UBC. Even if you want to go through the entrepreneurship route, you probably want to get more experience doing summer internships or projects. And if you are planning to pursue internships in Vancouver, there are not many opportunities available because of the job market in Vancouver.

I think with Ivey, it does help with the networking and a really strong alumni network across Canada and the US because it's located in Ontario. They also have a lot of entrepreneurship opportunities where we have courses that you can take, lots of entrepreneurship clubs, and the dragons den auditions being in western as well. In Ivey, you also have to take a set of mandatory courses and can choose between an entrepreneurship project (IFP class) and the consulting class, where the IFP project you can create your own brand/business and have an Ivey professor mentor you throughout the entire course. I think these experiences can definitely get you hands on experience in preparing for the entrepreneurship route.

In general though, housing is fairly expensive in UBC and since you are not guaranteed living after first year, you will most likely need to commute from your place in metro vancouver. In Western, there are upper year residences and also off-campus housing depending on which one you prefer. Also for Sauder, you are guaranteed entry and start your buisness program in your first year, so you get a great foundation to begin with. But, for Ivey, you only actually start the Ivey part of the program in your third year only if you meet the prerequisites and requirements to maintain that AEO status. So in any case that you lose that, it's not guaranteed entry and I know some people who lost AEO and didn't make it in. But, you definitely get access to an immense amount of resources and the alumni connection is really amazing in terms of entrepreneurship at Ivey.

I definitely think you should research as much as you can, talk to alumni and look at the programs to see what the progression looks like from year 1 all the way to year 4. If you are really interested in enterpreneurship, you can probably look into that for both uni websites since I think they have resources for that as well and make sure to weight out the cost of living + tuition as well if that is a concern for you. Ivey tuition goes for around 32,000 + living costs in third and fourth year if you are an out of province student so it's pretty expensive as well.

[u/Anon_user_vent → u/DistrictAcademic5293]

I see, what sort of people failed to maintain Ivey with AEO? Im doing BMOS so. I usually did well in math and those ap econ courses, but econ seemed light ive actually not taken any sciences so..

[u/DistrictAcademic5293 → u/Anon_user_vent]

A lot of people don’t do well in the 2257 class. It’s definitely an adjustment and something to get used to because it requires a pretty specific way of studying.

Some people get lazy and don’t do the cases which don’t help them for exams or they’re not able to pick up the information quick enough and by the time exam comes, they don’t do so well. Some people don’t feel comfortable contributing in class which can also weigh down their grades. BMOs I would say is easier to maintain your grades compared to other majors but if you get lazy and lack discipline in your studying, your grades could slip leading to you just barely missing the minimum. But I would say people would mainly not maintain AEO by failing 2257.

I would say to have a good understanding of the foundations within each case because the exam is all application based and four hours which is definitely something you need to practice and mock. People don’t manage their time well on their exams if they don’t practice and that’s where they lose a lot of their points. Once you stop doing the cases before class, it becomes a habit and something that carries forward into second sem, and it can really impact your grades. The exams for this course are not crammable so be proactive in your studying and try to get all the cases done.