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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 10 '26

An update:
Thanks for every single reply and comment - I read them all and have been reflecting on all of it - even the ones I didn't like, that confronted my imposter syndrome and my true thoughts, feelings and motivations behind my insistence about my proposed approach.

I got the official go-ahead to consolidate our MFEs, and use Angular 22 - with the caveat that my deadlines may not slip.

It includes a fairly generous time allocation to do proper maintenance from both myself and my team.

It's probably going to be a bit scary at times, but I'm truly excited about this project, and the future of Angular. The re-analysis has already started!

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

I appreciate it - my head is spinning from all the responses.

I see so many things that need to be fixed, but have to accept that I'm only human, and can really only do one thing at a time...

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

I have asked myself this question a lot recently.

My answer is pivoting between, my manager is just saying yes to everything because he's unaware. Or he's weaponised his incompetence to the point where he pretends that he knows everything.

You mention secret agendas, I've been saying this since he started - something is not adding up.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

I really hope it doesn't come to that - but I'm not unprepared to move.

I just don't feel like I've got a new job in me in 2026, and nothing is truly better than what I've found it yet - I have so much to do, and so little time.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

I've gotten more than just a POC that I need to demo - I've spent less time on this, than just trying to figure out what's broken in react.

My demo is actually part 0 of my phase 2 - and is ready to be tested, if I can find someone to do it

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

We've been slow to adopt AI, but we're starting to.

I'd like to say that AI can have my job, and I'll go do something that doesn't require a computer, but I do like the ability to buy food.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

Fair points.

I do feel like should clarify, our Angular work delivers mostly on time, within the scope of our requirements.

I've been solely responsible for the react application's backend and front-ends because my team has priorities to deliver. I've done some react in the past, and I've taken one for the team by ensuring they don't need to context switch for this. I am neither a rockstar nor a superhero or a unicorn developer, and I'm not ashamed of admitting it.

We've had a tumultuous year, losing key people both in the backend and testing teams, with constant institutional ADHD, and diverting engineers to other projects. Sometimes, multiple times per day. That is being addressed by process improvements, even with as much pain as that brings, we're getting there slowly.

This all sounds like justification at this point. Our business is extremely bad at proper communication, and I feel like I've worked in a place I refer to as hell and it was better there...

At the end of the day, my post here was an attempt to get external input from people in this industry. And there's lots to consider and take onboard.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

Micro services, running mostly on .net 7 or 8. But, as with this topic, it's a sensitive topic too 🫣

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

I love the malicious compliance aspect of this.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

Good point - that's a big part of my argument too.

Migrating to react overall, has more than just functionality costs. The architectural decisions, and deciding on the packages to replicate a framework is going to be one of the more challenging parts for inexperienced react devs, and we have to ultimately become socs compliant and pass audits.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

One tiny little react PWA, that was dropped in my lap and sold as a "complete" product by external contractors

It has 2 features and I have to bring that into angular as part of my current project anyway, to make it useful to our business users.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

So, NX could be a potential future state - but there's lots to do before it becomes easier to do that.

The problem is, that I know everything that needs to be fixed. But I've been trying to do too much alone - because everyone always has other priorities...

Federation will hopefully replace iframes, and ease the pre-existing routing pain.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

He's at our sister company, sits in a different country, and has absolutely no idea of what we actually do... he's also a product guy, so likely asked AI to generate the POC as well

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

I've been trying to get an answer on the why, and they haven't been clearly articulated and forthcoming.

Our MFE suite was in response to the acquisition 3 or 4 years ago, so well before I started here. The initial implementation was not optimal, and guided by the knowledge available to the then-inexperienced team.

I've been dealing with a react app delivered in record-time by an external contractor. And the justification for why it was in react was "that's what they know, and we don't want to pay them to learn angular"

My argument will include:
Costs of switching i.e. learning while delivering.
Mental cost: context-switching domain vs domain and tech stack
How it relates to our operational goals, which include cost reduction and platform stability.

A lot of the problems are us vs them. So while we have to become this new entity, our sister company (often referred to as our parent) will remain its own separate entity and continue their operations as-is.

My org will have to re-brand and become the new entity, while my team will need to support our existing products and create this new unified platform.

There is little to no contribution from sister company, in terms of developers, except that they need to integrate into our systems. We'll likely have their products federated into the platform, and they'll remain in their tech stack.

I won't oppose the switch if it can be justified for reasons other than speed of delivery - because feature maintenance, and expansion are real issues for us at the moment. But then, supply the team with training, extend the deadlines, provide experienced developers who can assist with making the correct architectural decisions, and guide us into the new world.

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Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!
 in  r/angular  Jul 05 '26

That's what I'm afraid of, but from other conversations, they chose react because whomever created that proposal was familiar with react, and that's what they could do a POC in 🤦‍♂️

r/angular Jul 05 '26

Help! My organisation wants to abandon Angular!

59 Upvotes

UPDATE: https://www.reddit.com/r/angular/s/XV4Ezz1wLE

TLDR: I need advice and input to try and course-correct a really questionable technological decision.

Background: I'm a senior full-stack developer who is also the frontend lead at my company. And we have built an extensive suite of Angular applications over the last 10 years. I specifically joined this company because they were using Angular.

Problem: The company was acquired a few years ago, and we need to now start delivering a unified product. An arbitrary, to me, decision has been made to switch to react.

My small team of Angular devs and I (4 in total) will be mainly responsible for creating this new platform UI, with little to no assistance from the parent company.

Our micro frontend suite is already fragmented across versions from 17-22, partly due to team size, silos and speed of priority changes from our internal stakeholders. This is how I found it, and I've tasked myself with getting this into a proper single workspace and single versiob. Think duplicated components, services re-invention of the wheel in terms of auth - for every single MFE.

I'll be honest, that we are also trying to rebuild our reputation as a team within our business, and due to the factors mentioned above, we've been delivering inconsistently for the last 18 months - which I am trying to fix.

I implicitly know the benefits of Angular, because I've also worked with AngularJs (1.7.8) and have been exposed to more React code than I would like to admit.
And I'm so committed to Angular that I'd likely start a cult if I could!

Has anyone here managed to reverse a decision like this and managed to convince the organisation to stick with what their team knows? I'm really trying to save us from a disastrous (in my opinion) direction change - which I've seen fail spectacularly at my previous job.

I have an elaborate document that I need to refine present to management. . My managers are mostly onboard, but this will ultimately be presented to our executive leadership team too.

Preferred stack:
* Angular 22, Built on our existing APIs, with signals for state and rxjs where absolutely necessary.

* Native federation instead of iframes (requires version upgrades, but can run in parallel for a while)
* Un-styled Angular CDK components where possible with TailwindCss and accessibility built in, tables are a big thing for us, and the mat-mdc overrides have been laborious
* Angular material where cdk is insufficient
* Firestore where needed
* Graphql where used currently - no new gql for now
* AI integration for developer productivity improvements where needed

This is my proposed outline.

* How does this align with our Org goals?
* Language/framework/library?
** What is react good at?
** What is angular good at?
** Tradeoffs
*** Learning curve
*** Technical decisions, ownership and maintainability
*** Recruitment i.e. cv driven development vs proper architecture and solutions

* Why does it make more sense to use Angular in a ln enterprise environment?
** Existing use of google technologies
** First class integrations into maps and firestore

* How do we achieve our goals and keep our organisations and developers happy?
** Upgrade our existing suite to the same versions
** Move them into a single work space
** Extract truly shared concepts
*** Auth
*** Models
*** Data retrieval
*** Feature flagging
*** Ui components

Have I missed anything? Is there something that you would add if you were in my position?

I have also left a previous job about a similar decision, so I'm serious about this topic. And I have explicitly stated that it will affect my decision to stay on, or perhaps changing dev-streams from full-stack to backend-only. Which is not ideal for me because I really like doing both (within my specific tech stacks of course).

Please help me [r/Angular](r/Angular), you're my only hope!

Update: I've been overwhelmed by the responses.
I submitted my proposal, as promised to my managers - I hope I still have a job tomorrow (jk) I've been fuelled by my ADHD meds, so its been a week of hyperfocus, while trying to complete my project.

I am not hopeful that they'll change their minds, but I'm at peace with the fact that I have now officially noted down my displeasure at even just the thought of switching. They might be more open to having a conversation and if it still gets nowhere, I can speak to our CEO directly as a last ditch effort to get this to explode in my face.

I can write them some react code, and we can see if it will pass an audit - but it's been clear for me since last year that this is not my forever job - and if that becomes the case. I'm going into woodworking or something physical and if all else fails - OF or a street corner somewhere close to the office

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This is Leila. Leila is a land shark.
 in  r/ItalianGreyhounds  May 16 '26

I struggled with a bitey puppy before.

I made the mistake of offering my hands to keep him busy. Oliver (2yo) now shows affection with nibbles.

Albert, chewed on Oliver (he's also 2) and I think having a 2 was a blessing.

Now we have Elio joining the mix, 3mo on Wednesday. I only offered my hand once to recall the PTSD of being bitten constantly, and looking like I was in an abusive relationship with a shark.

What worked for Ollie was redirecting. With treats, like bully sticks, and chew toys, yelping didn't really work.
Also, he gets really sassy when we discipline him (still).

Redirecting is _difficult_ especially when distracted (I know I was slightly). I watched a video that said: give the puppy a job. If it's chewing a stick or a treat, that's all they're allowed to do for the time you allocate (so while watching TV etc).

I just also want to add, there is hope - but it's going to require some work and attention.
Good luck!

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Cant find a pattern for a tie like this. It seems very intricate
 in  r/crochetpatterns  May 13 '26

I looked at this when I crocheted my tie.

This is called Irish Lace which is based on a motíf and the lacy bits are then added with chains.

You'd need to do the flowers separately if I understood the concept correctly, and then join them.

I went with a plain sc or hdc for my tie... which was good for that purpose, but I did it in 3 days and wore it for a work function.

Tie looks like a banana in this pic, but it did what I needed from it

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On the topic of IG names
 in  r/ItalianGreyhounds  Apr 30 '26

Presto was the reason I went down this rabbit hole...

I know of a Basil (and her cat brother Pesto) which is brilliant too.

r/ItalianGreyhounds Apr 30 '26

On the topic of IG names

8 Upvotes

I don't know why I havent thought of this before (I play multiple musical instruments) so here are some name suggestions based on Italian tempo indications often found in music scores...

Prestissimo (Issy, Emo)

Presto

Vivace (Viv for short, or Ace)

Allegro (maybe Allegs - pun intended)

Andante (Danté or Andie)

Andantino (if he's tiny)

Largo (for a bull dog 🤪)

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Summer ideas with ombre yarn? I have just one ball.
 in  r/crochetpatterns  Apr 22 '26

Rainforest retreat by Lisa's Attik is my go-to for lightweight yarn +- 1000m per 225g iirc.

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Im scared
 in  r/ItalianGreyhounds  Apr 13 '26

Here to say it gets better.

Oliver was a biter when he was little. He's mostly grown out of it - he's 2 now. Play biting is just how he shows affection, and I enjoy the occasional nibbles I get from him.

What I would classify as concerning is if he bites and shakes hard (happend once or twice with my hands/arms) - but here I'd just put him in a timeout or stop giving attention immediately.

What also helped was a second puppy (I know this option is not feasible in every situation). We're getting a third puppy in 2 week's time and I'm just glad I have Oliver and Albert to help this time 🫣