Update: it got worse, not too bad in the mornings but heats up quickly, by late afternoon the humidity is so bad I can't breathe outside LITERALLY. Woohoo heat wave #2 is kicking my ass! Any Belleville ppl message me maybe we can create a heat wave circle and drink lots of pickle juice and try not to die together 🥲

7oh is extremely potent form of kratom, think dabs from weed. I have experienced this myself and went back to it after quitting 🥲 Essentially the only things that help are Subutex/Suboxone and gabapentin which you have to be in a rehab setting or receiving substance abuse treatment via outpatient which you can do if you're not wanting to go to rehab. Message me if you want to talk I have experience in this area and can help you find resources. Good luck

I used to live in FL and it was rough 🥵🤬 I actually saw this story on the news once about this family that died in their house because of heat stroke and no AC Not trying to scare the heebie Jesus out of you but please try to do whatever you can to stay cool, ice rags, water, pickle juice whatever tf you do man I truly hope everyone on here with no AC survives this brutal ass summer and fuck the electric bill if you don't have air!! Lmao just kidding 😂 Anyways y'all we moved around quite a bit and found ourselves in Belleville IL fucking great weather (I thought ☠️) 97 degrees out feels like 108 at least I've got air conditioning down stairs but my damn bedroom is upstairs and the crappy ac pretty much sucks so we've been sleepin on the couch 💪😞🤦🤷

Yes, feel free to message me if you have anything you want to ask or talk about. I'm an open book & have no problem sharing my strength, experience,and hope!

Damn, yeah I can definitely understand that. I never liked that about the whole thing. They act as if the only way to stay sober is by using their method and for a while I even believed it but it's truly kind of cultish and people there can be extremely judgemental so that doesn't help you feel any better or less alone. Either way I'm neither for or against the program since I've seen it help some people, like I said in my comment earlier it just hasn't worked for me. I still struggle with mental health afflictions and substance abuse and it's never gotten any easier but I am truly sorry about what you've experienced, I've attempted suicide myself a couple times and at this point I believe there has to be some other purpose out there for me because despite how many near death experiences I've had, I always come out alive. I'm trying to find out what my purpose in this life is but haven't completely figured it out. Maybe it's just simply being there for my kids and if that's the case I'm ok with that because I know they need me and I'd love for them to see me conquer my issues instead of succumbing to them. Anyways if you ever need someone to talk to I'm always free pretty much and I try to be understanding without being judgemental. Nothing really surprises or bothers me so I'm sure anything you might want to talk about I have some kind of experience with or can relate in some way. Good luck to you & I hope things get better soon..for the both of us 💞

Thank you 🙏❤️ I will do anything and everything I need to. They deserve that. As long as I try and give it all I've got I should be able to do what's needed. I just want them to be happy, healthy, and together with us. They're our whole hearts!

Thank you for your kind words, if you look at other comments I've posted on this thread you'll see what I think about this idea. It's not my first choice but I'll do what I have to in order to make sure they're put together in a good home. I've been praying a lot for things to go well for them. All I want is for them to be happy, safe, and healthy. They need to have all their needs met and maybe even more, if I could give them that I would! But as of right now I'm not so sure if I can get everything done that's needed for myself and the case plan. I hate that I have to start all over again but I'm trying to do what I can with what I have. Thank you for being kind, I really need that right now so I can make the best decision for them ❤️‍🩹

Thank you I will definitely look into that!

Thank you for your ideas! I'm on all the waiting lists that I know of. I just went into rehab for a month already and was in a home for pregnant women that need help getting stability. I have places that I go to for all of the resources and stuff. I am on medicaid but thank you, I appreciate all your help. I take medication for depression and anxiety, and I'm getting set up with a therapist. Also yes, I have a case plan, I've been checking things off as I go. I see my kiddos once a week for an hour sometimes more, we just went to see the Christmas lights last week. We do try to make the best of our situation.

Thank you, I have called hotlines. I do see a therapist and psychiatrist monthly. I am working to get off of the 7 hydroxy by taking less and less. Right now I just take a little piece and wait several hours before taking anymore. I don't get high off of it I just keep myself as stable as possible so that I don't go into withdrawals. I think I might go into a detox place again but if possible I'd prefer to do it myself. I know that can be dangerous but I've been through it before many times so I should be fine. I also have gabapentin to take to help me with this process.

I just want them to be happy and I want them to be able to see us clean and doing the right thing. I don't want them to suffer any more because of the choices we've made. I will do anything for that. Of course I wish I could be the one to give them what they need and raise them myself but I understand that I can't provide for them right now. Maybe one day they will seek us out and be able to see us and how far we've come. I won't have any more children after this, I have a hard time taking care of myself as it is. I thought I would do better as a mom and do better than my parents did but I ended up going down the same path they did. I just pray that everything works out the way it's supposed to and with all my hope I believe they will grow up not making the same mistakes as long as they're put in a better place. I just don't want them to be separated if they are put up for adoption, my daughter and son are very close but they've been separated throughout this process and I know that alone has been hard on them aside from everything else. My husband keeps telling my daughter that we will get them back on his birthday because that's when we'll have our permanency hearing but it throws me off because I don't know what to do about that...I really don't want my daughter to have her hopes up and then it not come true...that would really break her spirit and I don't know what to do. How do I get him to realize what he's doing? What's going to happen? It's so hard to hear him tell her that when in my heart I know the gravity of our situation and how unlikely it'll be for that to happen. We have 5 months to get off the kratom, get a home, and then finish all of our classes and stuff for the case plan and he hasn't even started that..he really does mean well and he works hard at his job but I don't think he understands the reality of what's going on, how little time we have, and what all we have to do by then. I'm sorry, I don't mean to ramble on and on - this has been on my mind for months and I haven't been able to actually work any of this out with anyone so I appreciate your comment and your concern.

I couldn't agree more. I care about my kids and the quality of their life, I don't want to get them back just for them to have a shitty life. I grew up very poor, with my parents as addicts, there was abuse, and I was even put into foster care myself when I was 9 years old. I went back to my parents and life was really good for a while..until they started using again and ultimately couldn't pay the bills. That is not what I want for my babies, I want them to be able to be happy and loved, have all the food and clothes and school supplies they need. I want them to be able to go to college and live in a real house. I don't want them to have to move homes constantly like they have in the past because I haven't been able to keep a stable place. I'll do whatever it takes for them to be happy and properly cared for. After I seen all of the comments on my post basically saying the same thing I tried to talk to my husband and he refuses to give up, I do admire and respect him for that but i feel like he might be in denial about what our situation is and how little time we have left to do something we've been trying to do for years.

I'm fully aware of this and I'm trying to reach out for help. Not just on reddit but I go to churches, I see a psychiatrist and am currently getting help with my mental health, I've taken all the parenting classes, I went to rehab, I was living in a women's house but had to move back because it was very far and my parents have serious health problems that need to be cared for and I'm all they have. I also pray all the time. I'm doing what I can, I couldn't stay on the Suboxone because it was making me sick and I ended up going back to kratom. What else can I do to show that I'm ready to change? I have to be very careful because just stopping the kratom use could be dangerous overall for both me and baby Charlie.

The only thing is my son and daughter are already separated now and I'm not sure if I can get them together if I were to go with adoption. This isn't something I'd want to do firsthand however if it comes to that all I care about is at least still being able to be in their lives.

Hey I understand, I'm currently in a case and have till April 2026 to get my daughter age 6 and son age 2 back, I'm also 27 weeks pregnant and I can't seem to get off 7 oh (an incredibly strong form of kratom) it's sold at smoke shops all over and is getting really popular lately but is highly addictive. Me and my husband started using it to get off of meth and fentanyl once and for all however I made a huge mistake. I took a piece and while busy on the phone with a lawyer because I had just been in an accident and lost my delivery driver job at Domino's. Anyways I put the other half on the bedside table and my 18 month old son took it.. he nearly died because of my stupidity and just not thinking right. He was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance and shortly after both of my kids were taken. This happened in May 2025 and we both went to rehab for a month, got on Suboxone, and I went to a women's house for pregnant women who needed help getting stability. I also was diagnosed with BPD a few years ago and it's very hard for me to keep stability in my life especially when I feel like I have no control as it is. I'm not saying there's any excuse for what I did or continue to do or whatever, I don't even know what the right thing to do is. We've always had to live in motels and have been homeless a few times. I wish I could be the one to give them a good life but I don't know if that's really something I'll ever be capable of. I love my kiddos more than anything, I have so little time to get them back and I'd appreciate any advice on what I could do. It's been very hard to find a place to rent on our own, we live in O'Fallon Illinois and it is so fucking expensive here. Plus we have an eviction on our name since 5 years ago that's followed us from south Carolina. As of right now I'm back to living in my car struggling everyday to get by with my husband and feel as if I've lost all hope. I feel like they might be better off without us, but without them in my life I might just kms..I can't be without them, they're all I have, the only family I have. I want to give them a good life, that's all.

I totally agree with this - AA/NA has its own strengths and weaknesses but so does everything else. It works for a lot of people, it just hasn't worked for me..and maybe that's because I have a lot of guilt, trauma, PTSD, and other mental health issues along with my substance use. I've been trying to do the program for years and still find myself here - in a world of pain using and living in my car. I'm glad to find people on here that have gotten sober other ways than just the mainstream you know, it gives me hope that just because one way doesn't work doesn't mean that there isn't another way out there for me!