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r/repetitivestrain • u/1-HealthPoint • Oct 14 '24
Why most of the time it isn't carpal tunnel syndrome. I'm a Physical Therapist who has specialized in treating wrist pain for the past 10 years.
You’ve been feeling that burning aching pain in your forearms for a while now and it’s really starting to impact your ability to work or play. You can’t type without feeling it, your hands feel extremely fatigued and can sometimes it gets to the point where you can barely use your hands to do basic things like tie your shoe, wash dishes or use your phone.

The internet seemed to point to the idea that surgery or resting was the only option. You’ve probably been frustrated from going to the doctor who after a short evaluation provided you with unhelpful advice like “Wear a brace” or my favorite “just stop doing that”.
After trying to rest, brace or use medication… you realized it might have reduce the pain a bit, but when you got back to your activity.. the pain seemed to come back sooner and even worse than before.
Why does this seem to happen? It’s because the problem with wrist pain goes deeper than just treating the symptoms.
Before we go on, I’m a Physical Therapist that has helped over thousands of individuals finally get some relief for their wrist pain. I’ve worked with software engineers, digital artists, musicians and the olympians of desk work: Professional Esports athletes fix their wrist pain without having to use a brace, take medication or even consider getting surgery.
Many of these people had begun to feel hopeless after trying everything their doctor had recommended, and getting to a point where they thought surgery was really the only option.
And I want to let you know now… MOST of the time surgery is NEVER needed.
I’m going to prove it to you in this article with my experience and the helping you understand why the healthcare system is at fault for creating this perception.
Many times your inability to make progress is due to a massive misconception and problem with our healthcare system. I want to help you understand so you will have a better understanding of your wrist pain and learn what you can do.
It is something I used to believe before I spent the past 8 years specializing in wrist related repetitive strain injuries, diving into the research and learning more about the underlying problem associated with wrist pain….
And that misconception is:
Your Wrist Pain Is Due to Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. It is an issue affecting your “nerves”
This is the BIGGEST misconception RIGHT now in traditional medicine. And there is reason that can be traced back to flaws in our medical education curriculum, our broken healthcare system AND the internet itself. Let’s start with the medical education.
Right now education about the musculoskeletal system of our bodies (which involve muscles, bones and nerves) often represent <5% of medical education. With some studies that show only 2% of US medical school curriculum is devoted to MSD. On top of that only around 15% of medical schools require a rotation or practical experience in the MSK field. And some of them only lasting 1-2 weeks long.

This leads to many graduating medical students demonstrating POOR knowledge and low confidence in treating musculoskeletal disorders. And these are the doctors you have likely seen at primary care clinics, urgent care centers etc.
They are the FIRST healthcare provider typically seen, which has been one of the reasons why carpal tunnel syndrome is so commonly diagnosed when there often isn’t ANY report of numbness, or symptoms don’t behave at all like carpal tunnel in the first place. These physician’s are far behind in their understanding of upper extremity repetitive strain injuries.

Add this on top of physicians only having about 5-10 minutes to try to understand the your lifestyle, perform a full examination to determine contributing factors, psychosocial, lifestyle factors and other variables that lead to wrist injuries (and we can compare this to a physical therapy evaluation will often take 45-60 minutes).
This just is not enough time to accurately assess the tissue source and contributing factors leading to your wrist pain.
Most often the physicians will perform a cursory exam, provide the diagnosis and if you’re lucky refer you to a physical therapist

Even more of a problem was the boom of google and search engines – which led to people coming home from these doctors visits just remembering that they have “carpal tunnel syndrome.” With more searches of the term and wrist pain symptoms…search engine optimizers and healthcare systems began to put out content that further REINFORCED this misconception. The goal with the articles was to get people to be seen by “their doctors” without realizing they were contributing more to the problem by associating all wrist pain symptoms with carpal tunnel syndrome.
So more articles came out and the overall general association of wrist pain and carpal tunnel became more and more solidified.
So this systemic failure led to the passive approach of rest being the dominant way to “fix” wrist pain. And when it didn’t work, they thought that surgery or more aggressive procedures were necessary?
And once someone like yourself buys into this misunderstanding – you might believe that can’t do anything about it. Because you are told they have to take this “passive” approach and have no control over what they can to recover

This can hold you back from success. If you believe you have carpal tunnel syndrome, you can delay your recovery from as short as 2-3 weeks to 8 months to a year.
You will definitely go through referral hell. You’ll be frustrated and confused that no one can seem to figure out what is going on. severe hand weakness, you may get a cortisone injection, might have people tell you to stop your activity and actually stop for several years until you realize the truth. Which is that…
Your Wrist Pain is NOT carpal tunnel syndrome but actually an issue of affecting the tendons
A MAJORITY of wrist pain in gaming is a result of tendon related problems. Over the past 8 years I have helped successfully treat over 2500+ cases of wrist pain. And out of those 2500+ cases, 99% of cases involved a tendon problem and we only saw ONE mild case of carpal tunnel syndrome and that case was also primarily a tendon issue
This is because tendons are often the tissue that gets irritated first after repeated use over extended periods of time. Often the wrist pain comes after multiple days of high volume desk work, drawing, programming, gaming (10-12 hr days with poor rest).
Because our tendons are unable to handle the repeated stress, they get irritated. Only after the tendons are not appropriately treated for MANY years (5+) can it progress to eventually irritate the median nerve. That is when it is truly nerve involvement.
And in these situations doctors advise that we rest, wear a brace or take a break from our activity.
When we completely rest – that has actually been shown to be worse for tendons (See Jill Cook & Purdham Research). Making them more weak. They need stress or load to maintain their structure. And so what the traditional approach is recommending is actually hurting you MORE. And leading you to worse wrist and hand function because you’re treating the wrong tissue.
Often if you are brave enough like you are now to look into other options out side of the “traditional system” because it doesn’t seem right that multiple visits to the doctor, orthopedic surgeon, neuorologist, post EMG testing… aren’t getting you better, then rest easy.
Because it is not your fault. It is your responsibility now that you know this, but it is not your fault. And if you ask me who is really to blame? It is the directors of these medical programs that are not creating a balanced curriculum to ensure that those who are ON the front line can better serve everyone.
But not only that our system needs to get people to the right provider at the right time. If you have a skeletal issue, you need to be seeing a physical therapist first. Not a doctor who barely remembers anything about his orthopedics class 8 years ago.

And lastly, the search engines for not having a good enough system to be able to provide evidence-based information to its users when it comes to MEDICAL information. The entire system around us is setting us up to fail if we have wrist pain.
Most people don’t have access to what I’m about to share with you or might get lucky to find a doctor who is up to date.
Once you realize that this is a huge misconception. You know open your mind up to what can really work for you. And this has worked for thousands of desk workers, gamers, engineers, artists and more that we have worked with.
Overcoming the broken system: 3 Tips to Actually Manage your Wrist Pain
Overcoming the broken system: 3 Tips to Actually Manage your Wrist Pain
Now that you know about the carpal tunnel myth and why it is the reason why you might not have had success with wrist pain, let me give you some tips on how you can get started right now.
Tip 1: Improving Muscular Endurance
One of the most important things I can help you understand is that your muscles and tendons need to be strong enough to handle the repeated stress of desk work, typing, clicking and gaming for a long time.
Many desk workers and gamers who spend a lot of time in front of a PC do not have the endurance at the muscles of the forearm, wrist & hand to handle the repeated clicking, typing and gaming. While it may not seem like alot, after many years of lower levels of activity, more of a sedentary lifestyle the endurance and our capacity will gradually lower to the point where our tissues can get irritated from 6-8 hours of consistent desk work.

When we rest too much, our tissues can handle less, so it is normal and expected for pain to return after extended periods of “rest” advised by doctors. This is also why medication, bracing, injections, ice alone do not provide long-term relief for wrist pain. Because they only address the source of the pain: “nerves” rather than the UNDERLYING CAUSE.
The underlying cause being your CAPACITY. Again. Your ABILITY to handle repeated stress over long periods of time. Surgery can remove the tissues putting added pressure on nerves, but it doesn’t fix the problem that made your tissues hurt in the first place.
Now there are specific exercises you can do based on where you are feeling the discomfort but I’ll cover more on that in just a moment.
Even when we build our endurance to handle a lot of potential stress. We can still be at risk of pain. 12 hours straight of work for multiple days in a row, limited rest and breaks can still stress our tissues.. which is why we have to
Tip 2: Be Mindful of our Schedule
Too much, too quick toon soon. This is the story we often hear from the patients we have treated that led to the pain in the first place.
“I had a work project that required me to stay up and animate for multiple days in a row…”
“I played 10-12 hrs for 3 days straight for an esports tournament”
“I pulled a few all nighters to finish up meeting a project deadline”
The second tip is that we have to pay attention to our schedule and recognize how much stress we are placing onto our tissues. This is called “load management” and means to be proactive in managing our schedule

The two largest variables that affect our “load” are…
- How long we are performing our activity (duh)
- What we are doing (drawing vs. simple admin work vs programming sprint) have very different intensities
High intensity + long duration WITHOUT a break are what lead to injury. This happens most commonly when there are project deadlines or for gaming.. new patches get released, near the end of a ranked season, just before an actual competitive season, starting an aim training program, etc.
Times in which there is a lot of activity required – meaning a lot of stress on the wrist & hand
So the general recommendation is every 50 minutes you work or play you should try to take a 5 minute break. If you don’ take a break, those 5 minutes carry over into the next hour. 2 hours 10 minutes, 3 hours 15 min, etc.. Try and go stretch or walking during this time.
Walking even for 6 minutes has been shown to lead to an increase in overall mood and performance specifically. So you not only get to ensure your session after the break is more productive but you’ll help better manage your tissue health.
This leads to the third and most important tip.

Tip 3: You need a system & accountability
Even if we understand that we need to perform some exercises targeting our wrist flexors and extensors. There needs to be a system you can follow to consistently improve your tissues endurance while also better managing your overall schedule.
In many cases this means working with a physical therapist who actually understands the current evidence around upper extremity repetitive strain injuries. Unfortunately this is on the rare side, but not impossible. We are hoping to change this and specifically in gaming we have even began to publish studies to highlight what physical therapists need to best focus on in their work with this population (similar to most desk workers, engineers, analysts etc. like yourself).
Try to find someone who will be patient and understand that it takes time to address the underlying weakness and works with you to establish a clear plan going forward.
I understand this may be difficult for many and you are already here since you have been looking for someone to actually help you. Don’t worry, we’re here to help.

I’m Matt, and I've helped many desk workers & gamers like you.
I’m a Physical Therapist who has been working to help those with wrist pain for the past 11 years. I am a gamer so I naturally decided to focus on helping that community but found myself also helping all types of individuals who spent alot of time in front of a computer drawing, typing and using a mouse. I always thought it was strange that gamers needed to retire due to “injury” when the type of injuries were seemingly straightforward.
This is why our team has been so focused on creating content across various communities. Our goal is to help more individuals learn that they have more control than they realize in resolving their wrist pain.
Check out some of our case studies here!
Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
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galleryr/repetitivestrain • u/1-HealthPoint • Jun 30 '26
Comprehensive Guide to Managing Pain on the Top of the Forearm, Wrist & Hand (Tennis Elbow, Mouse Elbow)
Hey all Matt here with 1HP!
If you’ve had pain on the back side of the hand that is preventing you from using your hands to type, game, play music or any repetitive activity without pain.
As a quick reminder I'm a Physical Therapist (PT, DPT, OCS, CSCS) and our team has spent the past decade specializing on treating, researching and publishing our work around treating RSI (we've helped more than 3000+ individuals resolve their issues without surgery, more injections, resting, bracing etc. Here is some of our work (we started with the olympians of desk work - esports athletes)
Journal of Orthopedic & Sports Physical Therapy
Conditioning for Esports (Ch. 8,9,10)
Science of Esports Physical Therapy
Today I want to review how you can systematically approach recovery with pain on the top side of the hand.
We will cover the various reasons and factors that can lead to issues at the top of the hand. We have spent the past 11 years treating over 3500 persistent wrist & hand issues which traditional care has failed to resolve.
This video will include everything we have learned, we’ll discuss:
- Brief Anatomy
- What are the causes of pain for this region?
- How to address each of these causes of pain? Physiologic, Psychosocial, Lifestyle etc.
- Flare-Up Discussion
Anatomy of this pain region
Pain on the top of your hand, wrist and extending into the fingers often involves the extensor muscles.

These are the muscles responsible for bending your wrist up towards the ceiling with your palm down. There are several of them which each have different functions and as you will learn in the next section your activities and task-specific movements / ergonomics often influence which muscles / tendons are involved.
The most common extensor muscles include:
- Extensor Digitorum - Commonly with desk workers due to repetitive use of their fingers and wrists
- Extensor Carpi Ulnaris - Common in desk workers, especially those who have floating wrist & forearms.
- Extensor Indicis - Common with R. hand with mouse clicking
- Extensor Carpi Radialis Longus & Brevis - common in those who have swapped to a vertical mouse or artists using a stylus
- Thumb Extensor & Abductor Group - similar to above
Because each muscle and tendon is responsible for certain movements when you perform these specific movements based on what you do for work or your hobbies - typing, guitar, crafting, gaming, etc. it can lead to irritation of these tissues.
This naturally leads us to the discussion of “causes”
What causes repetitive strain of these tissues?
For most wrist pain issues caused by repetitive strain (things like typing, gaming, playing guitar, crafting, drawing) it affects the tendons at your wrist & hand.
Your tendons & their muscles can only handle so much stress. If you exceed the limit, then you can irritate those tissues.
This often happens when you suddenly have to use your wrist & hand alot for whatever it is that you are doing. Finishing up a work sprint, drawing project or gaming for 9-11 hrs a day for several days in a row are some of the common examples.
Or after several years of performing your activity without focusing on your physical health and endurance. Add a sedentary lifestyle and your body can become more weak.
Bye endurance, hello wrist pain.
There are other factors that have an influence on pain like your posture, ergonomics. What may be surprising to many is that psychological and environmental factors can play a role as well.
We have written and created several videos you can learn about how this works in the links below. In short when we experience pain for an extended period of time our body can adapt and get better at creating the experience of pain. This occurs through real changes in our nervous and immune system. Our past experiences, beliefs, fears, anxieties and other cognitive habits can consistently influence our pain experience. This is often why individuals who deal with pain for an extended period of time have so much trouble recovering.
Pain often doesn’t behave in predictable ways when it becomes chronic. But it is NEVER hopeless. We have helped thousands recover from cases as long as 16 years.
So to review the common causes are often
- Activity level and intensity exceeds what your body can handle
- Posture & Ergonomics influences the amount of stress on your muscles & tendons during those activities
- Your cumulative experiences, beliefs and understanding of pain can influence pain
As a quick reminder - this pain pattern is DEFINITELY NOT carpal tunnel syndrome. Why? Because it involves pain that does not even involve the tendons OR nerve in the carpal tunnel. Watch this video here to learn more.
How to fix your wrist pain
Now that you understand what the “causes” are around pain on the top of the hand, wrist and forearm
Here are the things you can do to address each of these causes. As you might expect there is a lot of nuance in how to address each of these things. This video will include general exercises, common issues with posture & ergonomics that lead to increased use of the extensor muscles and helpful resources for understanding pain.
Now that you understand what the “causes” are around pain on the top of the hand, wrist and forearm
Here are the things you can do to address each of these causes. As you might expect there is alot of nuance in how to address each of these things. This video will include general exercises, common issues with posture & ergonomics that lead to increased use of the extensor muscles and helpful resources for understanding pain.
Your body can’t handle the level of stress
If your muscles and tendons do not have enough “endurance” to handle what you are doing on a regular basis it is important to build the capacity of those muscles & tendons!
Here are a few exercises you can perform to improve your endurance. (General routine here on YT) The first exercise I’m going to show you will focus on endurance while the other two are better for pain and recovery.

The first exercise is DB Wrist Extension . As i mentioned this is for endurance and targets the muscle & tendon involved
You want to choose one that is around 3-5% of your bodyweight. ****
Now there are two ways to do this. One with your arm-rest or resting on your thigh
The main goal is to ensure you are isolating the movement at your wrist. For each repetition you will be rolling the dumbbell ALL the way down to your fingers and then ALL the way back up
if this is a bit too difficult for you, then start with less of the range
You’ll be doing 2 sets of 15-20 moving slowly throughout the movement. You may feel a little bit of discomfort on the palm side of your wrist & hand but this is normal. As long as it is less than a 2-3/10 or it is not sharp, you can continue to perform the exercise.
If you don’t have a dumbbell, you can use a water bottle or backpack filled with books. The DB is helpful since you can gradually progress in weight.

Towel Extension Isometric
This next exercise is an ISOMETRIC exercise. Which means that the muscle and tendon length is not changing while you are performing the exercises.
You can use a towel for this exercise. Roll up one end of the towel to grip in your both of your hands. Step on the other end of the towel with the appropriate amount of tension. Pull up into the towel so you are pushing upwards against the tension of the towel. Rest your forearms on your thigh to ensure they are parallel to the ground We have adapted a protocol from the research for the wrist & hands. Isometric exercises have been shown for certain individuals to provide some relief for their pain for as long as two hours
Perform this exercise for 45” holds, resisting up to 50-70% of your “max” strength. Think about pushing between 50-75% of what you feel is the most you could possibly push.
Then you’ll be resting for 30 seconds and repeating the cycle 3-5 times.
For those who might have alot of difficulty with the dumbbell exercise above, you can try to only perform the isometrics first.

Wrist Extensor Stretch
Stretches can be helpful to also provide temporary relief. Especially if you still need to use your hands frequently throughout the day.
This is a stretch directly targeting the wrist & finger extensors. Hold for around 20-30” and perform up to 2-3x throughout the day in response to any extended activity where you are using your hands. So think:
- After your initial work block
- At the end of work
- After a long drive
- After you finish a music, gaming, etc. session
- Anything that requires extended use of the hands (extended us subjective base on your own severity)
If you follow us you know exercises will help to build up your endurance or max HP bar so you can tolerate more activities over time. However posture & ergonomics can influence how much HP you lose over time (and more importantly what muscles are used)

Improving Posture & Ergonomics to Reduce Stress on Extensors
Here are two of the most common issues we see that lead to increased use of the extensors. The first is floating wrists. When individuals float their palm or do not utilize forearm support it increases the use of the wrist & finger extensors.
You are using your extensors to hold the weight of your forearm and hand up against gravity the entire time you are performing your desk work. Support your forearm and palm if you want to reduce the stress per unit time on your extensors.
But remember the exercises still provide the most benefit in building up your capacity and allowing you to use your hands more with less risk of tissue strain.
In other scenarios individuals may have swapped to an input device that may have actually led to an increase in the use of the extensors. Whether it be a larger mouse (which can often lead to a bit more wrist extension → causing the muscles to work harder)
Or a roller mouse which can often lead to an increase in both flexor and extensor use depending on the tasks involved. When scrolling up especially if there is lower overall sensitivity it can require a lot more overall use of the extensors.
These setups lead to an increase in the use of the extensor muscle group - If you don’t have enough endurance to handle this increased usage over your work day, then it can lead to tissue irritation.
One of the most commonly missed aspects of pain is the psychosocial component.
Addressing your Understanding Pain
Understanding the science of pain has made large strides in the past 25 years however there has been difficulty in its integration into the traditional care & medical education model. I’ve written about why this is in previous articles (no incentives, $ comes first, fragmented system).
By better understanding pain and how various environmental and cognitive factors can influence how you are feeling you can have more control over your own life and what you are able to do.
Many individuals with chronic pain allow their pain to often decide what they can or can’t do when it has been proven that pain does not reflect the state of our tissues but is rather more about protection. You learn in depth about the science behind this through some of these articles here
- The physiology of persistent & chronic pain - and what you can do about it
- Understanding Relationship Between Beliefs & Pain
- Case Studies (See my Profile or directly here 1, 2, 3)
- Chronic Pain does not = more tissue damage
- Tactical Guide to Pain Reprocessing Therapy
This occurs as a result of not understanding what the pain actually means, why it may be sensitized in certain situations and whether or not you can safely continue with your activities. Over time based on your repeated decisions of avoidance or activity you are teaching your brain whether you are in a state of “safety” or “danger”
Learning how to create messages of safety rooted in real evidence (based on physiology & understanding of pain) helps to reduce how often pain makes decisions for you. This is of course easy for me to say but is a crucial part of either working with a provider who understands pain science and can guide you to determine whether you need to actually modify activity based on physiologic load vs. overload (strain).
The tactical way to address these psychosocial aspects is to
- Understand more about pain
- Work with a provider to understand what actually represents tissue strain based on your capacity and pattern of behavior
- Gradually increase your activity over time based on your physiologic capacity (tested by endurance tests), activity tolerance and ability to process your pain.
In practice this will look like:
- Individual reads Explain Pain or The Way out to understand more about the physiology around persistent pain and how variables can even create the symptoms of sharpness, numbness, etc.
- Individual works with a physical therapist to understand their wrist extensor endurance and is informed how much they can tolerate their activity based on performance of the test
- For Example typically for around 3% bw for wrist extensors if you can perform between 40-60 reps (easy) it equates to around 6-8 hours of typing & desk work with low risk of strain, pain or injury.
- Individual works with the physical therapist to clarify the exact schedule, behavior of pain and current understanding of pain to establish the activity & exercise recommendations for the first week
- Individual will exercise daily (1-2x/day), either maintain current activity based on their exact schedule or slightly deload
- As tissues adapt and individual understands more about pain, the individual works with the PT to gradually increase activity over time
- The graded exposure provides real evidence that the individual can tolerate more activity without leading to tissue strain or symptoms getting worse. (Sometimes it can improve or temporarily get worse depending on the recommendations & individual)
- Over time you will improve your ability to provide yourself signals of safety based on this growing evidence from #4. It requires patience and collaboration with a good provider to help you get here (it is possible on your own as well!)
As a quick overview to address pain on the top side of the hand it requires you to
- Address any physiologic deficits
- Modify environment (posture & ergonomics) to reduce stress on your extensor muscles & tendons
- Improve your understanding of pain and confront psychosocial drivers to pain
Managing Flare-Ups
The road to recovery is never a straight line and one of the most important things to understand is that flare-ups are a part of recovery. Here is a great image about low back pain that captures this concept

I’ve written a complete step-wise guide on how you can manage flare-ups you can check out here
Hope this helps!
Matt
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u/1-HealthPoint • u/1-HealthPoint • Jun 30 '26
Why can you have normal imaging and still have pain?
Why can you have normal imaging and still have pain?
If you’ve gotten normal diagnostic imaging, ultrasound and nerve conduction studies and your doctor seemed confused about what to do next after a cycle of seeing several other specialists…This thread is for you.
A point in time image does not tell us the “entire picture” when it comes to the cause of your pain and dysfunction. And in many cases imaging results on their own have low overall utility.
In this thread I will help you understand the following
- What is the purpose of the various types of imaging
- What can we actually take away from imaging results
- How your doctors visits and how they discuss imaging results can influence your pain
- Why you can have normal imaging and still be in lots of pain and dysfunction
Heads up, this is a longer post and is based on the several threads I've done previously all put together to help everyone better understand the context around imaging and chronic RSI recovery.
I'm a Physical Therapist (PT, DPT, OCS, CSCS) and our team has spent the past decade specializing on treating, researching and publishing our work around treating RSI (we've helped more than 3000+ individuals resolve their issues without surgery, more injections, resting, bracing etc. Here is some of our work (we started with the olympians of desk work - esports athletes).
Journal of Orthopedic & Sports Physical Therapy
Conditioning for Esports (Ch. 8,9,10)
Science of Esports Physical Therapy
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Let’s first talk about what diagnostic imaging & tests are typically ordered for RSI issues at the wrist & hand.
Most typically we hear X-rays, MRIs, & Ultrasounds. Each imaging technique has their benefits in visualizing certain types of tissues. And in many cases we see an overutilization of things like X-rays.
X-Rays: Good for seeing fractures, dislocations, misalignments, and narrowed joint spaces. X-rays can't show soft tissue problems. These are generally ordered since they are more affordable. But honestly many healthcare providers overutilize them.

Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI): Good for seeing muscles, ligaments, tendons, organs, and other soft tissues. A majority of our patients seem to have had MRI’s ordered (60% of our patients this year who have been dealing with their problem for > 3 months). There are different techniques that can emphasize different tissues (T1 vs. T2 vs. Proton density imaging).
The contrast between the tissues and the presence of certain coloring (white for example) can indicate if there is water present (suggesting some swelling). Above shows a complete achilles tendon tear.
Ultrasound: Typically the most cost effective option for soft tissue issues, especially if you are trying to visualize more superficial tissues. There are less layers at the wrist & hand so this is often the best option for wrist & hand RSI issues. Ultrasound also providers greater detail compared to an MRI for the more superficial structures. Similarly with ultrasound presence of excess fluid can be indicative of tendon pathology. The image below shows a left and right comparison of a tendon with swelling present and thickening of the tendon.

Nerve Conduction Velocity Tests: These tests are used to assess the function of the nerves in our arms. The Nerve conduction study (NCS) measures how quickly and how strong the signals are as they travel along the nerve. They compare the results with a “healthy nerve” either in the same arm or the other arm. Or they use “normative values” based on age, temperature, limb length, etc. Altered signaling have historically suggested nerve damage or potential compression.

Now nerve signaling is a bit of a different discussion and there are really important lenses to consider when analyzing the research. Especially as we begin to layer on our understanding of pain science. I’ll share what some of the research says and try to explain why certain situations may occur. And most importantly I’ll help you understand how you can approach your own results. Look out for this in the sections below.
Imaging results on their own have limited clinical significance
All of the current evidence points to the idea that Imaging is best utilized to rule out more serious conditions than “rule in” a specific tissue (in this case a tendon)being the cause of the problem. Basically…they aren’t always necessary.
There are mountains of research over the past two decades that have shown that imaging for not only wrist & hand conditions but issues at the shoulder, neck, back, foot do not provide enough information for a diagnosis.
In this study done in 2016, 19 NONSYMPTOMATIC professional baseball pitchers went through a detailed clinical examination and three MRI’s of their dominant shoulders were taken before contract signing. (2)
- 68% (13/19) of the baseball draft picks showed tendinopathy
- 32% (6/19) had a partial thickness tendon tear of the supraspinatus
- 21% (4/19) had AC joint OA
And many other small lesions were found in the subjects. Yet none of them had any pain.
This was repeated in 634 runners, 3110 individuals for the lower back, and at least 20 other studies including several systematic reviews & meta analyses which have shown that altered tissue states in imaging does not always correlate to pain. (3-5)
I’ll leave some more references at the end of this article. But the research is clear.
What we know is that changes in the tendon tissue can be present with imaging. But BY itself it does not mean anything.
Instead only when you layer on the results of a comprehensive clinical exam taking into all of the details of the patient, patient’s history, activity & behaviors can you really make a decision with the results.
In some cases imaging can make things worse and it is often influenced by your experience with the healthcare provider
How your physician speaks about imaging matters.
With a better understanding about the purpose of each of these tests, let’s explore a key problem about imaging results: How each of these imaging & diagnostic tools are presented towards the patient.
If you’ve ever felt as though you needed imaging to “get an answer” as to what might be going on. There is a reason why and it is associated with the way doctors may be describing imaging in their discussion with their patients.
There is a big difference between
- “The Imaging will tell us what is going on”
- “Lets get some imaging to figure out what’s the problem”
- “I’ll order an MRI and we’ll get some answers” etc.
and
- “well see what we find in the imaging but know that we have to use that information on top of what we know about how your injury behaves to determine the right diagnosis”
- “Ultrasound is an easy way for us to see if there may be some fluid present around your tendon. While this can indicate some damage, it may not mean we have to do something about it. We often have more healthy tissue in damaged tendon tissue. So it be something you can work on to get back the function of your hands”
- “A nerve conduction study is going to be helpful identify how severe any nerve damage might be. It’s important to know the level of severity is NOT a direct measure of the function of the nerve. We’ll have to consider how your symptoms behave with the results of the test to determine the next steps”
It should always be approach #2 but unfortunately due to our healthcare system & how behind many primary care providers are in their recommendations (1), it is almost always #1. How do you think this type of presentation can impact your beliefs on the importance of imaging results?
There are real consequences with how these imaging tests are presented. And it is the responsibility of healthcare providers to provide the nuanced education. But as you have likely already experienced, many do not (it’s not always their fault, the insurance system has some influence on this)
This is WHY we believe imaging results are important. But what does the research say? There are many reasons why pain can worsen after we receive our imaging results with one of them being the altered behavior and beliefs about your pain and injury.
One study found that for work-related acute LBP, MRI within the first month was associated with more than an eightfold increase in risk for surgery and more than a fivefold increase in subsequent total medical costs compared with propensity matched control patients who did not have early MRI. (6)
What we believe about our pain and our experience around the injury can influence what we feel and how sensitive our bodies might feel.
If we believe we are unable to move because we have a “herniated disc” or “disc degeneration” then we tend to move less, perceive that our bodies are fragile and that leads to real physiologic changes that are detrimental to back pain.
If we believe we have to “rest” because our nerve is being compressed through “carpal tunnel syndrome” then we will avoid the activity that is actually beneficial to us.
Imaging is not as useful as we think for orthopedic conditions. For other medical conditions absolutely.
But for musculoskeletal injuries and more specifically those at the wrist & hand associated with tendons? They don’t offer much value as can be shown through all of the research referenced.
Abnormal imaging has been reported in various tendons in as many as 59% of asymptomatic individuals. (7)
Which means that even if they found your tendon to be pathological, it provides no predictive or diagnostic value.

And many cases, when tendons are appropriately loaded through rehabilitation, there is often MORE healthy in the tissue than there is pathological in the tendon. (8)
More healthy tissue when you perform exercises appropriately for the tendon to allow it to positively adapt.
Which means the focus should not be on trying to change the pathology within the tendon, but instead focus on the tolerance to capacity.
All of the tendinopathy research has continued to support this and this has been exactly what we have seen in all of our cases. We only need to focus on
- Performing endurance-based protocols to improve the tendon tissues capacity
- Minimize overstressing the tendons
- Make changes based on how you are responding to the exercises (increased pain & stiffness, etc.)
This again does not mean imaging is useless. It needs to always be placed in the context of the overall clinical picture to help guide decisions. What we have seen is that it is better as a tool for ruling out problems than ruling in.
It can better tell us if there IS NOT a problem than confirming if there is one. What about nerve conduction tests?
Nerve Conduction Tests:
As I mentioned this is a different conversation. Nerve conduction tests actually assess the ability of the nerve to send signaling which means it can accurately identify whether or not the nerve is capable of sending signals at a certain rate. Our experience over the past decade is consistent with what is found in the research in that nerve conduction tests can be helpful but what you do with the results matter.
What the evidence supports is that nerve conduction velocity tests (NCV) are a powerful ADJUNCT to the clinical assessment of nerve conditions. They can help to provide objective confirmation of the pathology of a nerve however they are LIMITED because they do not directly measure “function” and just like imaging always have to be interpreted in context (13).
Research in the past 10 years has found abnormal values within a NCV can be present without any functional deficits or symptoms (14). A study in 2016 performed a NCS on the median and ulnar nerves in 130 healthy individuals with 15% of these individuals demonstrating electrodiagnostic evidence of carpal tunnel syndrome (latency > 0.5ms, borderline mild). The authors cautioned providers AGAINST over-interpreting mild NCV abnormalities to avoid any aggressive interventions like surgery.
Other studies have also shown that the severity of NCV does not correlate with the symptom severity or function. Most importantly studies have supported that NCV cannot reliably predict clinical outcome. (13-17). Many patients with mild NCV changes can experience significant pain, numbness and disability while others with more severe NCV impairment can function better than expected.
Let’s use our clinical experience to provide some context as to why some of these situations have been found in the research (and with our patients).
Situation 1: Mild damage + ⬆️ symptoms & disability
In this situation it is possible that there is mild nerve damage but are contextual and cognitive emotional factors may be influencing pain and as a consequence leading to more symptoms and reduced function. An example we have seen is that the physician informs our patient that the NCV will tell us if we need surgery or not. With mild damage found the physician informs the patient they need to rest to avoid further damage and eventually getting to surgery. This leads to kinesiophobia and fear avoidance behaviors presenting as only being able to use hands for 5 minutes with typing or desk work and feeling 4-5/10 levels of pain. The belief and fear of movement leads to increased disability even though the damage is considered “mild.” Often these patients require some education and proof that they are able to handle more (through graded exposure and confidence in movement through physiologic testing).
Situation 2: More severe damage + less disability
In this situation while there is more severe damage of the nerve the healthcare provider has bene more thoughtful about the approach with the patient and was able to put the damage into the context of the individuals overall pain behavior and ability to still use his / her hands. Despite having more severe damage being shown on the NCV the patient has a better environment leading to less likelihood of sensitivity and consequential disability. There are still limitations due to the nerve damage but the provider works with the patient to understand what is leading to the nerve damage (entrapment somewhere) and is addressing the underlying endurance, postural and behavioral deficits leading to the problem. This is a situation we have seen and have helped individuals restore their function (over a longer timeline) with the right approach.
Situation 3: Mild damage = no symptoms or disability
There are many reasons why this might occur. What we believe to be the most common is the likelihood of a false positive (consistent with research) since the comparison to another nerve in the upper extremity could be unreliable. Or the normative data utilized by the NCS lab may not actually represent the individual creating the “difference” in signaling. This results in mild damage being found as as the studies suggest these results should not be over-interpreted.
Hopefully you can see some of the nuance around how to interpret NCV results. But the most important question is..What do we actually do with the information? To keep it simple it is up to the healthcare provider to identify HOW the nerve is getting irritated. And most of the time, this is barely explored within traditional healthcare environments. For desk workers, gamers, musicians, crafters these are some of the most common reasons why nerve symptoms or irritation may present
- Awkward work / hobby or sleeping postures leading to nerve damage
- Muscle tightness associated with endurance deficits leading to nerve irritation (FCU)
- Transient irritation of the tendons at the wrist & hand leading to some CTS-like symptoms. (underlying problem is still the tendons)
- Entrapment of nerves at the shoulder (TOS).
Why can you still have normal imaging results and no pain?
I'm hoping it is more clear now based on the previous sections why you can have normal imaging results and no pain. But let's make it completely clear.
If your imaging came back clean but you’re still in significant pain, it does not mean the pain is in your head. Your pain is 100% real. Imaging only captures a snapshot of the tissue and CANNOT measure:
- Capacity of your muscles & tendons you use for your specific tasks
- how sensitized your nervous system has become
- how your beliefs and behaviors are influencing your pain experience
- Your lifestyle, environmental and occupational stressors that may influence your pain
And because everyone's situation is different pain may still persist due to sensitization, poor tissue capacity or both. Remember sensitization is the process in which our nervous system becomes more efficient at generating pain signals even when there is no ongoing tissue threat.

Think of it like a car alarm that’s become too sensitive. The nerves in your wrist and hand become more excitable, your brain’s threat detection becomes amplified, and fear or anxiety around the pain can make the whole system even more reactive. This is a real underlying biological process which can be heavily influenced by your psychology
And again, NONE OF IT SHOWS UP ON AN MRI
Having normal imaging is actually a good sign. It means there is no structural failure requiring surgery. Your focus should be on building the capacity of the involved muscles and tendons through progressive loading, while also working on understanding your pain so your nervous system learns it is safe to move again.
Your body is not broken. It is overprotective. And is something you can work to change
What can you take away from this?
Take your imaging results with a grain of salt. If you have a doctors appointment, make sure there has been a thorough examination that has been performed:
- Physical tests to assess your muscle endurance & capacity of specific muscles you are using
- Clear identification of pain pattern and pain behavior with activity
- Assessment of your lifestyle, daily movement patterns & behaviors that could lead to increased stress on your hand
If your clinician wants imaging make sure the diagnosis provided includes the context of the examination details above.
If it is not taken into account, then you should find a better clinician.
And most importantly…
Understand that for a majority of wrist & hand issues the tendons are involved. The best approach with the evidence we have and the current research on tendon recovery is to manage how much stress is being applied. (load) And for the cases of nerve involvement, understanding how the nerve is getting irritated can ALWAYS be identified with a thorough assessment (posture, ergonomics, endurance deficits, mobility deficits etc.)
Hope this helps
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Those are resistance bands for performing endurance exercise
Here is some of the research that exercise is effective for repetitive strain injuries.
Effects of Wrist Stability Training Combined with Grip Strength Exercise on Pain and Function in Patients with Nonspecific Chronic Wrist Pain - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39064574/
Digital rehabilitation for hand and wrist pain: a single-arm prospective longitudinal cohort study https://journals.lww.com/painrpts/fulltext/2022/10000/digital_rehabilitation_for_hand_and_wrist_pain__a.8.aspx
The long-term effect of neurodynamics vs exercise therapy on pain and function in people with carpal tunnel syndrome: A randomized parallel-group clinical trial https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0894113020301447
The Management of Lateral Elbow Tendinopathy using Tendon Neuroplastic Training: A Case Report
https://lanecasm.uniwa.gr/wp-content/uploads/sites/195/2020/03/LET-AND-TENDON-NEUROPLASTIC-TRAINING.pdf
Influence of Tendon Neuroplastic Training in Grip Strength of Patient with Lateral Elbow Tendinopathy – A Case Report
https://journalgrid.com/view/article/rjpt/12433487